VRT Export Repayment Scheme

discodavie

Has anyone here any experience of the above ?

I have a motor to sell and it looks like I'd make slightly more profit in the UK even after taking into account the travel accommodation re registering and flights home

So the real money on this one is the rebate

How long does the vrt rebate take to get into your hands after ya send the paper to monaghan ?

M three

Isnt the monaghan office that used to handle that stuff closed?
I think its all centralised to dundalk revenue office.

Let us know how you get on please.

CiniO

M three wrote: »

Isnt the monaghan office that used to handle that stuff closed?
I think its all centralised to dundalk revenue office.

Let us know how you get on please.

I think now it's being run by NCTS centres, so you can get pre-export appointment in any of NCTS centres... It costs something around 30 quid to have car inspected.

discodavie

Nope its monaghan

Where do I send my claim and who will deal with my follow-up queries?
Claims will be processed by Revenue’s Central Repayments Office. The claim form together with all relevant documentation should be sent to:

Central Repayments Office,
M-TEK 11 Building,
Armagh Road,
Monaghan.

discodavie

Im goin in on tuesday and goin out on boat on tuesday night,

Its definately worth doing with the right stuff.

Bigus

Car needs a current/valid full NCT

aswell as export NCT inspection,

galwaytt

....I heard of one laughable VRT refund they calculated as €1600....on an 06 Boxster. FFS.

Do you think you could import the same car for that? Not frickin likely !!

So when is an OMSP not an OMSP ? ....when you're looking for a refund, obviously. ....why doesn't that surprise me ?

mickdw

They have been identical on all cars ive checked less the 500 fee. Ive checked over 100 cars at this stage.
The biggest problem is registering in uk. There arexa fair few hoops to just through but not vrry costly. I think you have to prove permanent export within 30 days of nct inspection. If that is the case, you would possibly want to have some of the uk paperwork sorted before even going near nct or alternatively do it a second time once almost sorted in uk.

rocky

There was an E39 M5 someone was inquiring about exporting, but they said it 'doesn't qualify', whatever that means...

mickdw

rocky wrote: »

There was an E39 M5 someone was inquiring about exporting, but they said it 'doesn't qualify', whatever that means...

Many reasons for that. Car could have been imported previously by someone movibg to ireland who didnt have to pay vrt. Could have been bought on disabled drivers scheme where
Vrt rebate had already been given. The bottom line is that if any particular car doesnt have a vrt payment against it, you can't get vrt back.
A car having an irish reg means nothing in this case so care needs to be taken if buying for export.

Robertr

Has anyone done this yet? Could work quite well for me but am a bit worried about producing the proof of export. It does not detail exactly what that is or what they will take?

"You then have 30 days from the date of Export Repayment Examination to export the vehicle from the State.

Documentation must be provided to prove to the satisfaction of the Commissioners that the vehicle was removed from the State within 30 days of its examination, along with proof that the vehicle has subsequently been registered in another Member State or has been permanently exported outside the European Union"

CiniO

Robertr wrote: »

Has anyone done this yet? Could work quite well for me but am a bit worried about producing the proof of export. It does not detail exactly what that is or what they will take?

What documents are required when a vehicle is exported by a Private Individual?
VRTER2 (PDF, 689KB), which must be completed in respect of a vehicle removed/exported by a private individual,
Documentary proof of removal from the State,
Documentary proof of Vehicle Registration Number as assigned in another EU Member State, and
A copy of the NCTS Vehicle Export Examination Declaration.
Please pay particular attention to the documentary requirements, full details of which are listed in the notes section of the Claim form. Incomplete claim forms or claims, which are not accompanied by the required documentary proofs, will be returned.

Now if you take a look at VRTER2 form, there are some details in it.

• The following documents are acceptable as proof of permanent removal from the State: Shipping details, Sales invoices, Bill of
Lading, Commercial Invoices. The document/s should show the VIN of the vehicle, the type of conveyance, the place and date of
departure and the country of destination. Copies are acceptable.
• You must include the NCTS Vehicle Export Examination Declaration. • Please also enclose, where possible, a copy of the Registration Certificate from the country of re-registration and any official
documentation obtained from the Registration Authority in the country of the new registration, showing the VIN, the date of
registration, the Irish registration number, and the new registration number.
• Outside EU: You must include documentary proof that the vehicle has arrived at its final destination outside of the EU.
• The onus is on you to prove that you meet the requirements of the Scheme. If the necessary documentary evidence is not furnished,
a VRT Repayment cannot be granted.

Also another question in FAQ is following:

What proof do I need to show that the vehicle has been exported within 30 days, if the vehicle is registered in another EU Member State after the 30-day limit?
In the case of removal to another EU member state, if a vehicle is registered within 30 days of the Export Repayment Examination by the NCTS, then proof of that Registration is sufficient.

However, in the event that the registration of the vehicle is greater than 30 days after the NCTS Examination, separate proof is required to show that the vehicle was removed from the State within 30 days. Full details may be found on the relevant Claim form.

Which means that you need to remove vehicle from Ireland within 30 days, but you don't need to register it in other country within 30 days. It can be registered later, but you won't receive refund until it's registered

Here's the whole FAQ

Robertr

So I am looking at selling it to a dealer at the moment. Once I get a detailed receipt from them that should be sufficient for the proof of removal from State.

I have booked in for inspection next week so will see how that goes first!

CiniO

Robertr wrote: »

So I am looking at selling it to a dealer at the moment. Once I get a detailed receipt from them that should be sufficient for the proof of removal from State.

I'd say even ferry ticket is sufficient as proof of removal from the state.
But document showing it was registered in country of destination would be bigger problem. Dealer who you sell it to, will need to provide you with a copy of V5C or other document confirming it was registered there and showing registration number and VIN number.

Robertr

But it said:

"Please also enclose, where possible, a copy of the Registration Certificate from the country of re-registration and any official
documentation obtained from the Registration Authority in the country of the new registration, showing the VIN, the date of registration, the Irish registration number, and the new registration number.
"

I would take that to mean they don't require it?

galwaytt

Robertr wrote: »

But it said:

"Please also enclose, where possible, a copy of the Registration Certificate from the country of re-registration and any official
documentation obtained from the Registration Authority in the country of the new registration, showing the VIN, the date of registration, the Irish registration number, and the new registration number.
"

I would take that to mean they don't require it?

I would think you are right there, as there is no requirement for your vehicle to be registered in it's new home. For instance, my old car went to the UK for building into a race car, so it'd never get re-reg'd.

Unfortunately for me, this was after the announcement of the scheme, but before it came in to effect, so I didn't get anything back.......

discodavie

Mine went out last month.

Sold to a uk dealer I know.

My log book had wrong details in it though so took an extra week to have all the ducks in a row to send it out.

Refund will take another couple if months I'm informed though,

All in all worth doing.

Technoprisoner

is this on newly registered cars?

discodavie

Technoprisoner wrote: »

is this on newly registered cars?

Nope , on cars that had vrt paid on them that currently have a rebate of over €1000 I think is the min.

Best on fresher stuff though ,

CiniO

galwaytt wrote: »

I would think you are right there, as there is no requirement for your vehicle to be registered in it's new home. For instance, my old car went to the UK for building into a race car, so it'd never get re-reg'd.

There definitely is a requirement for car to be reregistered in country to which it's imported if it's within EU.
However 30 days limit apply to removing car from Ireland, not reregistering.
Also what documents should be provided as proof that car was reregistered, is not exactly clear, but it definietly must be a document showing new registrating number (in country it was exported to).

Situation is different if car is exported to outside EU, as there is no need to prove it was reregistered there.
But I assume there still must be documents proving car was exported there (so. f.e. customs duty paid on it).

decko11

clearly an Irish petrol car with a big engine and good spec is worth more (eith VRT refund) in UK then here

any advice on how to go about selling to a UK dealer ?

CiniO

decko11 wrote: »

clearly an Irish petrol car with a big engine and good spec is worth more (eith VRT refund) in UK then here

any advice on how to go about selling to a UK dealer ?

Why don't you sell privately to UK?

daRobot

decko11 wrote: »

clearly an Irish petrol car with a big engine and good spec is worth more (eith VRT refund) in UK then here

any advice on how to go about selling to a UK dealer ?

All depends on the car. What is it?

andy t

good to see that some sort of money can be got back from vrt

decko11

daRobot wrote: »

All depends on the car. What is it?

Its a BMW 325i - hi spec - auto, leather, electric seats, key memory etc (2007)

maybe trying a dealer in the north to sell on commission

based on values here v UK mainland - selling in UK gets way more - eg the same sale price or higher in the UK AND VRT refund

suggest a messed up market

but one of the main reasons is the 1200 motor tax here v 300 or so in UK

petrol cars more respected in UK for tax reasons

any guidance appreciated

galwaytt

decko11 wrote: »

any guidance appreciated

....lol - actually: keep the car ! : don't go gettin' tempted by a smelly new diesel !!

Notch000

is it true there is a 500 E admin fee associated with this >>?

decko11

galwaytt wrote: »

....lol - actually: keep the car ! : don't go gettin' tempted by a smelly new diesel !!

fair point !!!!

I guess my employers used pay all running costs..but not anymore.....

but i will miss her..

decko11

Notch000 wrote: »

is it true there is a 500 E admin fee associated with this >>?

yes - but the scheme overall is fair - eg same value in and out - for same car at same time

i suspect EU folks told govt to do it

September1

decko11 wrote: »

yes - but the scheme overall is fair - eg same value in and out - for same car at same time

i suspect EU folks told govt to do it

It may have been dealers, as by restricting supply it would raise prices on secondary market. Luxobarges are big winner as they seem to be worth much more almost everywhere else.

krazymuthafuka

I'm currently going through this process as I've moved to the North, so I'm exporting it to my new address and in my own name. Any ideas what I need to provide as proof of removal from the state?

It's already registered now in the UK so I have the V5C registration cert and new reg numbers and I'm within the 30 days NCTS examination. Would the V5C be enough or would do I need some further proof of removal?

deaglan169

krazymuthafuka wrote: »

I'm currently going through this process as I've moved to the North, so I'm exporting it to my new address and in my own name. Any ideas what I need to provide as proof of removal from the state?

It's already registered now in the UK so I have the V5C registration cert and new reg numbers and I'm within the 30 days NCTS examination. Would the V5C be enough or would do I need some further proof of removal?

i think the v5 is enough as im doing the same myself however my car is below the value threshold for a rebate but ill be claiming my tax back, can i ask had you any issue with insurance in north on the vin, i can get good quotes etc on the vin but the companies have told me im not legally entitled to drive the vehicle whilst insured on vin till dvla issue northern registration, its catch 22 as insurance and mot is required by dvla to issue registration

krazymuthafuka

deaglan169 wrote: »

i think the v5 is enough as im doing the same myself however my car is below the value threshold for a rebate but ill be claiming my tax back, can i ask had you any issue with insurance in north on the vin, i can get good quotes etc on the vin but the companies have told me im not legally entitled to drive the vehicle whilst insured on vin till dvla issue northern registration, its catch 22 as insurance and mot is required by dvla to issue registration

No didn't actually have any issue with this. You can book an MOT on your southern reg, you just need to call them rather than registering it online.

I was also able to get insurance with Allianz, called them up to tell them my situation and they said they'll insure me on southern reg number if I plan to import in 30 days. I think I ended up being insured for 45 days or so on the southern reg in the end as I didn't get it changed over within the 30 days. They were sound about it and called them up to give them the new UK reg yesterday.

deaglan169

i have mot next tuesday, best quote ive got is axa which gave me that story perhaps all rubbish, ill try allianz for a quote thanks

krazymuthafuka

Anyone know how long the reclaim takes? I sent everything away about 2 and half weeks ago but no word from them yet.

Thanks