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Why do some people think everything is a college?

  • 13-05-2013 10:34AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭GarIT


    It gets so annoying constantly seeing people saying on Facebook that they got into college and then when you ask where they say it's a PLC course only for them to get offended when you tell them this isn't college. What is up with Irish people that they think anything outside school is college? Why are there so many places in Ireland with college in their name but are not a college? and would you agree calling a level 5 course a college takes away from the status of colleges.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    cause its colllege duh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭wonderfulname


    Are you confusing college and university?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    so your trying to away from my 5 years in clown college?

    fcuk you! :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,323 ✭✭✭Chet T16


    Are you confusing college and university?

    Isn't a university just a collection of colleges?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    Chet T16 wrote: »
    Isn't a university just a collection of colleges?

    no its a status thing :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Are you confusing college and university?

    No, Universities have a higher standard of education than Colleges, and colleges have a higher standard of education than somewhere that just offers courses. AFAIK if it doesn't offer at least a level 7 course it can't be a college, and if it offers anything lower than level 8 it's not a Uni.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭Thatnastyboy


    Because,

    Universally it's a collage of statues.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    GarIT wrote: »
    It gets so annoying constantly seeing people saying on Facebook that they got into college and then when you ask where they say it's a PLC course only for them to get offended when you tell them this isn't college. What is up with Irish people that they think anything outside school is college? Why are there so many places in Ireland with college in their name but are not a college? and would you agree calling a level 5 course a college takes away from the status of colleges.

    No I wouldn't agree at all. You seem to getting mixed up with qualifications and institutions.
    I wouldn't call a Certificate an Honours Degree both both of them can and are obtainable at college.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    GarIT wrote: »
    No, Universities have a higher standard of education than Colleges, and colleges have a higher standard of education than somewhere that just offers courses. AFAIK if it doesn't offer at least a level 7 course it can't be a college, and if it offers anything lower than level 8 it's not a Uni.

    Sadly you are mistaken, perhaps you should actually look at the accepted definition of College.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    GarIT wrote: »
    What is up with Irish people that they think anything outside school is college?

    Because in Ireland it is...

    A college is anywhere that provides a post-secondary level education.


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  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    GarIT wrote: »
    No, Universities have a higher standard of education than Colleges, and colleges have a higher standard of education than somewhere that just offers courses. AFAIK if it doesn't offer at least a level 7 course it can't be a college, and if it offers anything lower than level 8 it's not a Uni.

    So an Institute of Technology would be a University then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    No I wouldn't agree at all. You seem to getting mixed up with qualifications and institutions.
    I wouldn't call a Certificate an Honours Degree both both of them can and are obtainable at college.

    does that mean you wouldnt call an elephant a horse


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭GarIT


    I understand that it's common use but it goes against the international framework of qualifications, why don't people use the actual term rather than throwing college on everything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    Because we aren't all pretentious assholes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    GarIT wrote: »
    I understand that it's common use but it goes against the international framework of qualifications, why don't people use the actual term rather than throwing college on everything.

    Because College is the correct word in Ireland, the UK and the UK commonwealth.

    You live in Ireland. Best to use the correct word instead of putting people down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    So an Institute of Technology would be a University then?

    theres only 4 or 5 uni's in ireland


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    IM0 wrote: »
    does that mean you wouldnt call an elephant a horse
    :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭General General


    GarIT wrote: »
    I understand that it's common use but it goes against the international framework of qualifications, why don't people use the actual term rather than throwing college on everything.

    Why don't people use question marks to mark the end of a question? I understand that it's common but it goes against the international framework of punctuation.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,624 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    When I grow up, I'm going to Bovine University.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭GarIT


    No I wouldn't agree at all. You seem to getting mixed up with qualifications and institutions.
    I wouldn't call a Certificate an Honours Degree both both of them can and are obtainable at college.
    Sadly you are mistaken, perhaps you should actually look at the accepted definition of College.

    It appears it's different in Ireland where anything outside secondary school has become college through common usage of the word, but on a level of standards you can't do certificates in a college.
    Seachmall wrote: »
    Because in Ireland it is...

    A college is anywhere that provides a post-secondary level education.

    Just in Ireland though, why doesn't Ireland follow the rest of the world on what is required to be a college.
    So an Institute of Technology would be a University then?

    No ITs offer some level 7 courses, if you offer a level 7 course you're not a uni.


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  • Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sounds like you need to pay more attention in college OP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    IM0 wrote: »
    theres only 4 or 5 uni's in ireland

    Only 2?
    National University of Ireland and Dublin University (Trinity) no


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,559 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    col·lege
    /ˈkälij/
    Noun
    An educational institution or establishment, in particular.
    One providing higher education or specialized professional or vocational training.

    /thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭GarIT


    IM0 wrote: »
    theres only 4 or 5 uni's in ireland

    7 I think. UCD, DCU, Trinity, NUIM, NUIG, UL, UCC


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,393 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    I don't care where they go to, as far as I'm concerned they're all feckin' students and are equally worthy of my scorn and decision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭wonderfulname


    GarIT wrote: »
    I understand that it's common use but it goes against the international framework of qualifications, why don't people use the actual term rather than throwing college on everything.

    Common use is the case in the states, in Ireland it is the actual term. Qualifications and how people refer to post secondaryeducation have nothing to do with each other. Why do you take such issue with it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 714 ✭✭✭Ziphius


    And what about all the secondary schools that call themselves "colleges"?! :eek:


  • Site Banned Posts: 124 ✭✭The Queen of England


    I'm from the School of Who Gives a Fuck?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    In the UK everything after GCSE is called college.

    Really we should stop using the word college to refer to universities.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    Only 2?
    National University of Ireland and Dublin University (Trinity) no

    no 7 actually http://www.iua.ie/the-irish-universities/university-profiles/

    youve been sold a lie ;)


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