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Council damaged boundary wall

  • 13-05-2013 8:17am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭


    Like the title says, the county council spent a few days working along our road mainly opening drains at the edge of the road with a JCB. While they were doing this they broke holes in my boundary to the road to allow water to drain off the road. In doing so they bust the barbed wire and broke stakes.
    Also they used the JCB to break down trees at one section and left the wall in a right mess.
    I`m bloody fuming, they didnt even have the courtesy to let me know they had done this. They seem to be above any law.
    Where do I stand with regard to this, can I make them repair the wall??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭mf240


    RaggyDays wrote: »
    Like the title says, the county council spent a few days working along our road mainly opening drains at the edge of the road with a JCB. While they were doing this they broke holes in my boundary to the road to allow water to drain off the road. In doing so they bust the barbed wire and broke stakes.
    Also they used the JCB to break down trees at one section and left the wall in a right mess.
    I`m bloody fuming, they didnt even have the courtesy to let me know they had done this. They seem to be above any law.
    Where do I stand with regard to this, can I make them repair the wall??

    Contact your local radio station. They will deal with it straight away then. There to lazy to do anything by hand so they use the digger for everything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    RaggyDays wrote: »
    Like the title says, the county council spent a few days working along our road mainly opening drains at the edge of the road with a JCB. While they were doing this they broke holes in my boundary to the road to allow water to drain off the road. In doing so they bust the barbed wire and broke stakes.
    Also they used the JCB to break down trees at one section and left the wall in a right mess.
    I`m bloody fuming, they didnt even have the courtesy to let me know they had done this. They seem to be above any law.
    Where do I stand with regard to this, can I make them repair the wall??

    take photos lots of photos. the cc are responsible for their side of the boundary but when they go to your side they do need permision. If they have damaged fencing on your proptery then yes they must repair it. Staright on to your local road engineer and get it sorted ASAP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    They are at fault, they have interfered with your property so send a letter ASAP to Director of Services with roads division outlining what the CC have done to your property without your consent


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    The proper approach is to contact your local elected representative and get the to act on your behalf. Take photographs or else get them out to see the damage.

    Be careful with direct contact with Directors of Services etc. People have often sent a solicitor's letter about a problem. The problem was usually fixed, but they received notices about having to cut hedges, remove overgrown trees or they had inspections of farmyards or septic tanks etc. It can often bring more trouble than it's worth.

    Use your local county councillor. That's why we vote for them!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 839 ✭✭✭Dampintheattic


    reilig wrote: »
    The proper approach is to contact your local elected representative and get the to act on your behalf. Take photographs or else get them out to see the damage.

    Be careful with direct contact with Directors of Services etc. People have often sent a solicitor's letter about a problem. The problem was usually fixed, but they received notices about having to cut hedges, remove overgrown trees or they had inspections of farmyards or septic tanks etc. It can often bring more trouble than it's worth.

    Use your local county councillor. That's why we vote for them!

    It's a sad day, when you can't deal with your own local council, without going through these planks.

    Surely, the best option, is to get in contact with the roads supervisor ("ganger"), in your area. Point out the problem, and let him deal with it.
    He will not want, any heat coming on his back, from higher officials. Normally, he will get it sorted. If he doesn't, then go up the chain. At least that's how it works around here.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    It's a sad day, when you can't deal with your own local council, without going through these planks.

    Surely, the best option, is to get in contact with the roads supervisor ("ganger"), in your area. Point out the problem, and let him deal with it.
    He will not want, any heat coming on his back, from higher officials. Normally, he will get it sorted. If he doesn't, then go up the chain. At least that's how it works around here.

    What are they voted in for?

    Why do they get a €40k salary and up to €60k in expenses?

    They are there to work on your behalf with the council. Roads supervisors, gangers, directors of services etc. don't want to be plauged by joe public with a stack of phone calls every day and people chasing them up in their cars. Is it any wonder people get poor responses from them when they don't go through the proper channels to contact them.

    You vote for councillors. Make them work for their money! If they did work for you, you wouldn't consider them a plank. If you don't give them work to do and complain about their lack of work, who exactly is the plank in this situation?

    Pot Kettle Black!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 859 ✭✭✭jomoloney


    and don't hold your breath

    took me 3 years to get reimbursed for a tyre and rim on the box, which got flittered by a jcb bucket


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    reilig wrote: »
    The proper approach is to contact your local elected representative and get the to act on your behalf. Take photographs or else get them out to see the damage.

    Be careful with direct contact with Directors of Services etc. People have often sent a solicitor's letter about a problem. The problem was usually fixed, but they received notices about having to cut hedges, remove overgrown trees or they had inspections of farmyards or septic tanks etc. It can often bring more trouble than it's worth.

    Use your local county councillor. That's why we vote for them!

    Just write a letter yourself to the DOS, no need to get a solicitor involved. No point dealing with the monkey when you can go straight to the organ grinder


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    Just write a letter yourself to the DOS, no need to get a solicitor involved. No point dealing with the monkey when you can go straight to the organ grinder

    Agree.

    But as i was trying to point out above, the proper proceedure for contacting them is to go through a councillor. Many people don't, and when they get no response from the DOS, they go in with all guns blaizing solicitors letters and all. I'm not saying that you won't get a direct response from the DOS, some will, but many won't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    reilig wrote: »
    The proper approach is to contact your local elected representative and get the to act on your behalf. Take photographs or else get them out to see the damage.

    Be careful with direct contact with Directors of Services etc. People have often sent a solicitor's letter about a problem. The problem was usually fixed, but they received notices about having to cut hedges, remove overgrown trees or they had inspections of farmyards or septic tanks etc. It can often bring more trouble than it's worth.

    Use your local county councillor. That's why we vote for them!

    might be better up in lietrim but its a totally pointless excrise dealing with county councillers down here in cork, they just dont want to know. Not sure when the next local election is due but i doubt its any time soon so they are in no hurry to do anything. the local fella a round here can only be contacted by ringing his office number, no email, no mobile, competely f**kin useless. I know its our fault for voting him in (i didnt btw) but there really isnt too many other alternatives.

    Get on to the local road engineer, get his number talk to him and give him 48hrs to get it fixed. Get his email, then if its not done by then send it to him with the attached photo's saying "that as per our recent conversation". CC your counciller and TD.

    Dont take any crap from these boys. The lads round here will be getting a bolloxing from me fairly soon but i'm waiting on bit more ammo 1st.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 839 ✭✭✭Dampintheattic


    reilig wrote: »
    What are they voted in for?

    Why do they get a €40k salary and up to €60k in expenses?

    They are there to work on your behalf with the council. Roads supervisors, gangers, directors of services etc. don't want to be plauged by joe public with a stack of phone calls every day and people chasing them up in their cars. Is it any wonder people get poor responses from them when they don't go through the proper channels to contact them.

    You vote for councillors. Make them work for their money! If they did work for you, you wouldn't consider them a plank. If you don't give them work to do and complain about their lack of work, who exactly is the plank in this situation?

    Pot Kettle Black!!!!!!

    I would have thought, Joe Citizen, has every right whatsoever, to deal directly with his/her local council, regarding all appropriate matters.

    If the response from the council, is inadequate, then I would think, it would be appropriate to have your councillor make a representation on your behalf.

    You know, how it has worked for generations of local government, in this country.
    Councillors, have their "man", in the council, particularly in planning.
    The "man", raises questions, etc, dircetly to Joe Citizen, when he applies directly for planning or some other service. Puts a hold on things. A few delays, blah, blah. At the same time, lets, "his", councillor know about the issue.
    Councillor, calls Joe Citizen, and says "I just happened to see you have a problem". Hey presto ............... I'll get that sorted, if you want me to.
    Bob's you uncle .............. it's sorted.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    the best way to get planning around test parts is still the old way,:mad: , same with getting other problems sorted with them. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    reilig wrote: »
    But as i was trying to point out above, the proper proceedure for contacting them is to go through a councillor.

    Is it?

    suppose then what the hell are councillors for.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 931 ✭✭✭periodictable


    Had something similar when I noticed the wire across a track had been cut and a council worker was parked in the shade of the trees, asleep on his lunch break, with his empty sardine can and papers thrown on the ground.
    I read him the riot act, ordered him to repair the wire and collect his rubbish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    So County councillors are voted in because they are useless?

    You should bypass them with any issue that you have with the council and go direct to someone who does not have responsibility for directly dealing with public queries?

    Even though you bypass the councillors, never asking them to work for you, you should go around calling them useless.

    Wow, it's like wiping your @r$e with newspaper while you take notes on the roll of toilet tissue!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    reilig wrote: »
    So County councillors are voted in because they are useless?

    You should bypass them with any issue that you have with the council and go direct to someone who does not have responsibility for directly dealing with public queries?

    Even though you bypass the councillors, never asking them to work for you, you should go around calling them useless.

    Wow, it's like wiping your @r$e with newspaper while you take notes on the roll of toilet tissue!

    you can only vote for who is on the ballot paper.

    why go to someone that will not do anything for you?

    lists of requested have been made to numerous counciller, most without a reply so why keep doign it.

    you can bring a horse to water but it dosent mean he'll drink


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    yellow50HX wrote: »
    might be better up in lietrim but its a totally pointless excrise dealing with county councillers down here in cork, they just dont want to know. Not sure when the next local election is due but i doubt its any time soon so they are in no hurry to do anything. the local fella a round here can only be contacted by ringing his office number, no email, no mobile, competely f**kin useless. I know its our fault for voting him in (i didnt btw) but there really isnt too many other alternatives.

    Get on to the local road engineer, get his number talk to him and give him 48hrs to get it fixed. Get his email, then if its not done by then send it to him with the attached photo's saying "that as per our recent conversation". CC your counciller and TD.

    Dont take any crap from these boys. The lads round here will be getting a bolloxing from me fairly soon but i'm waiting on bit more ammo 1st.

    But sure there's more than 1 councillor in every area. In our electoral area there are 5. They are biting the hand off each other for work so that they can win votes for the next election.

    As I said, if you start threatening people "48 hours to get it done" you can expect visits. Muck on the road, spreading slurry when it's too wet, that gully from a tap in the yard that runs into the stream etc.

    Road engineers, DOS etc. are there to do exactly what their title says - engineer roadways or direct council services - not deal with every public person individually - that's what we elect councillors for.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    yellow50HX wrote: »
    lists of requested have been made to numerous counciller, most without a reply so why keep doign it.

    you can bring a horse to water but it dosent mean he'll drink

    Why not bring that to a TD.
    A CC could be thrown out of their party for ignoring a request!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    reilig wrote: »
    But sure there's more than 1 councillor in every area. In our electoral area there are 5. They are biting the hand off each other for work so that they can win votes for the next election.

    Your lucky, local lads around here you wouldnt send them to the well for water. 2 most local lads were failures (a bad back man, and a former guard who had to leave) in other occupations in life, needless to say they have done well for themselves since getting elected :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    reilig wrote: »
    But sure there's more than 1 councillor in every area. In our electoral area there are 5. They are biting the hand off each other for work so that they can win votes for the next election.

    As I said, if you start threatening people "48 hours to get it done" you can expect visits. Muck on the road, spreading slurry when it's too wet, that gully from a tap in the yard that runs into the stream etc.

    Road engineers, DOS etc. are there to do exactly what their title says - engineer roadways or direct council services - not deal with every public person individually - that's what we elect councillors for.

    your F**ked altogether so if your sending letters to the county manager:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    reilig wrote: »
    But sure there's more than 1 councillor in every area. In our electoral area there are 5. They are biting the hand off each other for work so that they can win votes for the next election.

    i think we have 4 from this area (there are a few UDC's also around here), a couple are from the local towns so only deal with people in those areas. all have been contacted but we might as well have been conacting ones in france for all the good it does.

    As none are actully from the locality they're not too bothered. they look to the votes in their core areas to ensure they get in. the amount of floating votes is not enough to justify them making an effort. most people round here will only vote FF or FG or not at all. only SF and to a lesser amount LAB try to go for the floating vote if one of them polled well in the area and took a seat from the big two then they might pay attention but that wont happen until the election after next


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    your F**ked altogether so if your sending letters to the county manager:D

    County Manager = County Council Manager

    Employed by the board of the country council. Answerable to the board.

    This board is made up of publically elected members known as County Councillors. They represent local areas and bring issues of concern from groups or individuals to the attention of the County Manager or DOS or Engineers etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    yellow50HX wrote: »
    i think we have 4 from this area (there are a few UDC's also around here), a couple are from the local towns so only deal with people in those areas. all have been contacted but we might as well have been conacting ones in france for all the good it does.

    As none are actully from the locality they're not too bothered. they look to the votes in their core areas to ensure they get in. the amount of floating votes is not enough to justify them making an effort. most people round here will only vote FF or FG or not at all. only SF and to a lesser amount LAB try to go for the floating vote if one of them polled well in the area and took a seat from the big two then they might pay attention but that wont happen until the election after next

    Is this the same local area as the OP?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    reilig wrote: »
    County Manager = County Council Manager

    Employed by the board of the country council. Answerable to the board.

    This board is made up of publically elected members known as County Councillors. They represent local areas and bring issues of concern from groups or individuals to the attention of the County Manager or DOS or Engineers etc.

    As in the buck stops with him, when the little hitlers on the ground see the Managers name on emails/letters it means they have to live by the letter of the law. which they often dont.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    reilig wrote: »
    Why not bring that to a TD.
    A CC could be thrown out of their party for ignoring a request!

    been there done that too, hearing lots of noise but still no real work. as my uncle would say "i hear the bees, but i dont see the honey"

    Depends on you is making the request? certainly not a member of the public. As can be seen from the lads in lienster house. lying, cheating, and generally making up stories to suit your self is not only tolerated but rewarded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    reilig wrote: »
    Is this the same local area as the OP?

    i have no idea


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    As in the buck stops with him, when the little hitlers on the ground see the Managers name on emails/letters it means they have to live by the letter of the law. which they often dont.

    No,

    the board of councillors are the employers. The manager is answerable to the board. This is why they vote on his/her decisions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    reilig wrote: »
    No,

    the board of councillors are the employers. The manager is answerable to the board. This is why they vote on his/her decisions.

    unlees it gets bypassed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    yellow50HX wrote: »
    Depends on you is making the request? certainly not a member of the public. As can be seen from the lads in lienster house. lying, cheating, and generally making up stories to suit your self is not only tolerated but rewarded.

    Is this your opinion or is it based on your own personal experience?

    It's certainly not my experience of TD's. I'm an ordinary member of the public with no affiliation to any political party. I had a major issue with forestry last year and I emailed a TD who was in the area that the forestry was (But I don't live there). I hadn't voted for him. He didn't know me from adam and had no responsibility towards me. I made my case and within 24 hours he was back to me with a phone call. I received several phone calls after that from the TD himself until the issue was resolved and a phone call asking me if I was happy with how it was resolved.

    The vast majority of TD's are hard workers who get things done for individuals on a daily basis. If they didn't, they wouldn't get re-elected. Not every TD is a Bertie of a Charlie!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    reilig wrote: »
    Not every TD is a Bertie of a Charlie!

    there was allot of them though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    there was allot of them though

    There sure was!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 839 ✭✭✭Dampintheattic


    I have to tax the tractor this week, at the local coucil office. Probably means waiting 30 minutes or more in line, when I could be doing something productive.
    Now, that I could do with giving to my local councillor:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    reilig wrote: »
    County Manager = County Council Manager

    Employed by the board of the country council. Answerable to the board.

    This board is made up of publically elected members known as County Councillors. They represent local areas and bring issues of concern from groups or individuals to the attention of the County Manager or DOS or Engineers etc.

    Absolute rubbish. County Managers are appointed, following a competition, by the Local Appointments Commission. There is no board.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    Absolute rubbish. County Managers are appointed, following a competition, by the Local Appointments Commission. There is no board.

    yes, they are appointed by the LAC, but
    The Elected Members of the Council equate to the private sector Board of Directors

    http://www.corkcity.ie/yourcouncil/managinglocalgovernmentinachangingenvironment/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    I have to tax the tractor this week, at the local coucil office. Probably means waiting 30 minutes or more in line, when I could be doing something productive.
    Now, that I could do with giving to my local councillor:cool:

    Do it online.
    You're able to come on here and write posts, surely you can log into the motor tax website????


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 839 ✭✭✭Dampintheattic


    reilig wrote: »
    Do it online.
    You're able to come on here and write posts, surely you can log into the motor tax website????

    Of course. You are correct.

    I'm, also capable of and rightly entitled to, engage dircectly with my local council, regarding a wide variety of issues.

    I expect, the relevent council departments, to deal with me as directly, and as fairly as they do when I'm paying fees to them, for road tax, or any other feed due to them, for service.

    I do not want to nor should I need to go through, one of these councillors.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    I have to tax the tractor this week, at the local coucil office. Probably means waiting 30 minutes or more in line, when I could be doing something productive.
    Now, that I could do with giving to my local councillor:cool:
    either do it online or go at lunch time, most people think they are closed at lunch time but they are open:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    Of course. You are correct.

    I'm, also capable of and rightly entitled to, engage dircectly with my local council, regarding a wide variety of issues.

    I expect, the relevent council departments, to deal with me as directly, and as fairly as they do when I'm paying fees to them, for road tax, or any other feed due to them, for service.

    I do not want to nor should I need to go through, one of these councillors.

    But you forget that the tax and fees that you pay goes to pay councillors to represent you. Whether you choose to use them or not is your business. But advising others not to use them because the councillors in your own area are not up to your liking isn't a proper thing to do. The OP may have great councillors in his/her area who would be more than willing to help. perhaps the op's local council has a specific policy, like some that I have worked in, to prioritise councillors representations over representations from the general public??

    At the end of the day, we are answering the OP's question in this thread. What you do is your own call!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭JohnBoy


    I think reilig what you're saying here is all that is wrong with politics in this country.


    Joe citizen should not have to call his elected representatives to get things done. He should call the people providing the service involved.

    Joe citizen should call his elected representative if he is not happy with the service he's getting.


    The problem is we have evolved out the whole first step of the process.

    Government should govern, not act as customer service representatives for the bodies they are supposed to be running.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    JohnBoy wrote: »
    I think reilig what you're saying here is all that is wrong with politics in this country.


    Joe citizen should not have to call his elected representatives to get things done. He should call the people providing the service involved.

    Joe citizen should call his elected representative if he is not happy with the service he's getting.


    The problem is we have evolved out the whole first step of the process.

    Government should govern, not act as customer service representatives for the bodies they are supposed to be running.

    Kinda, but the people charged with providing the services are there to do exactly that - provide services. They have a system set up around them to receive representations/queries/complaints etc. This system is locally elected representatives. If service providers are bombarded all day every day by phone calls and personal visits from the general public, then it diminishes the amount of time that they have available to spend on the work that they are actually supposed to be doing.

    Now, some of these service providers are very nice and helpful people who try to help ordinary members of the public whenever they can. But this doesn't mean that contacting them directly is the correct thing to do.

    In some local authorities, the service providers won't entertain direct representations from the public - and if they do, they will often have to jump through hoops for it.

    Thus the most direct route to getting something done is to get someone with a bit of clout to act on your behalf.

    County Councillors are designed to be local consumer service representatives.
    Why pay them if people won't use them and prefer instead to clog up the system of service suppliers?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    reilig wrote: »
    Kinda, but the people charged with providing the services are there to do exactly that - provide services. They have a system set up around them to receive representations/queries/complaints etc. This system is locally elected representatives. If service providers are bombarded all day every day by phone calls and personal visits from the general public, then it diminishes the amount of time that they have available to spend on the work that they are actually supposed to be doing.

    Now, some of these service providers are very nice and helpful people who try to help ordinary members of the public whenever they can. But this doesn't mean that contacting them directly is the correct thing to do.

    In some local authorities, the service providers won't entertain direct representations from the public - and if they do, they will often have to jump through hoops for it.

    Thus the most direct route to getting something done is to get someone with a bit of clout to act on your behalf.

    County Councillors are designed to be local consumer service representatives.
    Why pay them if people won't use them and prefer instead to clog up the system of service suppliers?

    that is all fine in theroy but the reason we have to get on to our TD's is that the local councilers will not do anything and there are no services being provided.

    I have no idea where the OP is but if they have to deal with the council like many people in the country they'll end up belting their head of a brick wall out of fustration. I'm gald that the local council in Lietrim try to provide thier area with services but many dont, cant or wont. One of the locals told me about his brother over the weekend and the road in thier area is fianly going to be repaired but only if each household stump up another €1500 each. whats the point in paying road tax, property tax and all the over levies to provide "services". It'll be a complete waste of money as a complete half arsed job will be done and most proably no maintenance done that this time next year the road will be a mess again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 839 ✭✭✭Dampintheattic


    Right then, get rid of the whole damn lot of the councillors, and get on the blower, to Joe Duffy:D Sure, sure, sure ........... the poor auld coucillor for Clontarf, will be the first out the gate:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    reilig wrote: »
    Is this your opinion or is it based on your own personal experience?

    It's certainly not my experience of TD's. I'm an ordinary member of the public with no affiliation to any political party. I had a major issue with forestry last year and I emailed a TD who was in the area that the forestry was (But I don't live there). I hadn't voted for him. He didn't know me from adam and had no responsibility towards me. I made my case and within 24 hours he was back to me with a phone call. I received several phone calls after that from the TD himself until the issue was resolved and a phone call asking me if I was happy with how it was resolved.

    The vast majority of TD's are hard workers who get things done for individuals on a daily basis. If they didn't, they wouldn't get re-elected. Not every TD is a Bertie of a Charlie!

    i too have no political affilcation and have been in conact with my local TD's. A coupl eof them made contact but i reality there isnt much they can do unless they can put pressure on teh local council. Sometimes it helps to go over someones head.

    a lot of bluff is sprouted about hard working TD's BLAH BLAH BLAH, but the thing is they keep their mouth shout when they are told to. While i dont want to go too much off topic this perception that they work hard for their area and thier reperstaives really annoys me. Yes many do a genuine job and do seem to actually care but most of these are back benchers with little or no infuance on the deicisons of goverment. Most are told to vote or lose the whip.

    Have you ever seen a TD propbely been called to task? Ray Burke was curropt yet still gets a massive pension and no-one has ever made an appemt to change that.
    Lowery gave so many differnt stories about his dealigns with businesss that no-one knows the truth, yet is still a TD.

    We would love to have honest politicans and i would love to see them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    yellow50HX wrote: »
    i too have no political affilcation and have been in conact with my local TD's. A coupl eof them made contact but i reality there isnt much they can do unless they can put pressure on teh local council. Sometimes it helps to go over someones head.

    a lot of bluff is sprouted about hard working TD's BLAH BLAH BLAH, but the thing is they keep their mouth shout when they are told to. While i dont want to go too much off topic this perception that they work hard for their area and thier reperstaives really annoys me. Yes many do a genuine job and do seem to actually care but most of these are back benchers with little or no infuance on the deicisons of goverment. Most are told to vote or lose the whip.

    Have you ever seen a TD propbely been called to task? Ray Burke was curropt yet still gets a massive pension and no-one has ever made an appemt to change that.
    Lowery gave so many differnt stories about his dealigns with businesss that no-one knows the truth, yet is still a TD.

    We would love to have honest politicans and i would love to see them


    PM me the issues that you have and the details of the councillors/td's that you have contacted including their responses or lack of. I have a very good contact in the ombudsman office who deals with this kind of stuff and can be on top of it in a week or 2 for you! She can deal with county councillors as well as local authorities themselves!

    She can follow up with parties of any councillors that are in them - give them the feedback from you and ensure that you get a response. She will also contact independeny councillors and give you their response.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    reilig wrote: »
    PM me the issues that you have and the details of the councillors/td's that you have contacted including their responses or lack of. I have a very good contact in the ombudsman office who deals with this kind of stuff and can be on top of it in a week or 2 for you! She can deal with county councillors as well as local authorities themselves!

    bet the poor girl is overworked these days.

    I might just take you up on that but like i said i'm waiting to get a bit more ammo on them. I'll give them time to follow through on thier latest promise's but you know the politicans promise isnt word the paper its written on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    yellow50HX wrote: »
    bet the poor girl is overworked these days.

    I might just take you up on that but like i said i'm waiting to get a bit more ammo on them. I'll give them time to follow through on thier latest promise's but you know the politicans promise isnt word the paper its written on.

    Not at all. It's her job. She loves taking on new stuff. Send on the info and it'll be dealt with!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    reilig wrote: »
    Not at all. It's her job. She loves taking on new stuff. Send on the info and it'll be dealt with!!

    I can forward her on a few weeks work if she is interested.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    I can forward her on a few weeks work if she is interested.

    No problem!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭milkprofit


    Send letter to council giving 3 days to fix
    Nothing will happen
    Take photos etc
    get farm relif to fix
    Send bill to council
    Wait 1 yr for payment


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 179 ✭✭Massey10


    milkprofit wrote: »
    Send letter to council giving 3 days to fix
    Nothing will happen
    Take photos etc
    get farm relif to fix
    Send bill to council
    Wait 1 yr for payment
    Thats about right .The council know a farmer wont risk the cost of taking them to court so can do as they please if you block any hole they make in your ditch and the road gets damaged as a result they will come after you and it could will cost you big time .


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