Craze/preworkouts, no effect after first time!

Trine

About 2 weeks ago, more out of curiosity than anything else, I tried Craze preworkout, by DS.

First time, a single scoop, as recommended. After about 30 minutes it really kicked in. I had loads of energy, great mood, hyped up between sets, did a fantastic workout. Could barely sleep that night!

Every single time since then, it hasn't had even a fraction of that effect. Most times it feels like I've taken absolutely nothing.

I had a similar experience with Sci-MX's X-Plode, which I also tried about 2 months ago. First time, really felt it. Every session after, nothing really.

Is this a pretty common occurrence? Or do I just have some kind of tolerance for these things? Are there do's/don'ts for these things in regard to your pre-workout meal altering the effect?

Not really interested in hearing for/against these pre-workout supplements, no offence, not what I'm asking about. I really would love to have the effect of my first experience with Craze before every workout, it was fantastic, but doesn't seem to happen now, even with 2 scoops.

Mac-Chops

I've tried NXT-TNT for last couple months on and off and find myself in a similar situtation. First few times were possibly a bit too intense but now it's more of a pep in my step than anything.
Started on recommended 3/4 scoop and now on heaped scoops.

It's my only experience with preworkouts so not much experience but I do find taking it on an empty stomach (as instructed) helps and also if I take a break for a few days then go again gives a bit more of a pep but still a pep.

I've read that you're supposed to cycle these things so I'll prob take a break after this tub for a couple of weeks and see if the intensity comes back!

T J Hooker

I've had the same scenario with ronnie colemans myoblitz. I've been off it for a month and going to give it a go again this evening and see what happens.

Optimum

I take a banana and a black coffee.maybe an apple if I think of it.

KealanOCarroll

I got a tub of Jack3d recently (the new one) and I've found the same, I don't think it's as effective as the older formula.
I found the "original" jack3d mental stuff all together, it's got beta-alanine in it so you get that weird tingling in your skin, I was taking it daily for weeks though and found it worked every time without fail.

Caffeine is really hard on your stomach but taking pre-workout on an empty stomach definitely makes a huge difference !

harvester of sorrow

Optimum wrote: »

I take a banana and a black coffee.maybe an apple if I think of it.

Ye should ditch the pre workout "formulas" and go the black coffee route lads.....all you need really.
http://dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2270663

KTRIC

harvester of sorrow wrote: »

Ye should ditch the pre workout "formulas" and go the black coffee route lads.....all you need really.
http://dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2270663

The original Jack3d has been banned and is not available anymore.

Oisinjm

KealanOCarroll wrote: »

I got a tub of Jack3d recently (the new one) and I've found the same, I don't think it's as effective as the older formula.
I found the "original" jack3d mental stuff all together, it's got beta-alanine in it so you get that weird tingling in your skin, I was taking it daily for weeks though and found it worked every time without fail.

Jack3d Micro is a completely different product and isn't supposed to replace the old one. The purpose of it is more for a mental focus than a rush. They've taken the majority of the stimulants out of it which is what most people seem to be hooked on.

Ye should ditch the pre workout "formulas" and go the black coffee route lads.....all you need really.
http://dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2270663

Unfortunately that woman had a preexisting heart condition from what I remember. She took a stimulant. Her heart would have already been working hard from the running and she took a product containing DMAA, it was a recipe for disaster and sadly she died. I don't agree with the banning of DMAA but I believe that the majority of people who were selling it couldnt give a fúck about their customers well being and just care about profit margins so it's probably for the best.

About 2 weeks ago, more out of curiosity than anything else, I tried Craze preworkout, by DS.

First time, a single scoop, as recommended. After about 30 minutes it really kicked in. I had loads of energy, great mood, hyped up between sets, did a fantastic workout. Could barely sleep that night!

Every single time since then, it hasn't had even a fraction of that effect. Most times it feels like I've taken absolutely nothing.

Take a break from all stimulants. This includes coffee, red bull etc. Do this for four weeks. Take your pre workout again.

Oisín

Sephiroth_dude

Optimum wrote: »

I take a banana and a black coffee.maybe an apple if I think of it.

Does black coffee actually work for you?

Gummy Panda

Lyle mcdonald recommends:

200mg caffeine
1-3 grams of l-tyrosine
High GI carb

JJayoo

I usually have cake/biscuits/chocolate and coffee.

JJayoo

Ordered two tubs of Craze. Will stack it with coffee and cake for ultimate gains.

COH

JJayoo wrote: »

Ordered two tubs of Craze. Will stack it with coffee and cake for ultimate gains.

The danger there is that you get too big, as opposed to just big. I hate when you take a new pre-workout and you accidentally wake up the next day and you're a bodybuilder

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Double Espresso with sugar.

JJayoo

COH wrote: »

The danger there is that you get too big, as opposed to just big. I hate when you take a new pre-workout and you accidentally wake up the next day and you're a bodybuilder

I'll sleep sideways, problem sorted.

Tigger

COH wrote: »

The danger there is that you get too big, as opposed to just big. I hate when you take a new pre-workout and you accidentally wake up the next day and you're a bodybuilder

this actually happened to my friend


but then he had to emigrate

Gummy Panda

COH wrote: »

The danger there is that you get too big, as opposed to just big. I hate when you take a new pre-workout and you accidentally wake up the next day and you're a bodybuilder

Just don't take your casein shake and muscles will melt away?

Brian?

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Lyle mcdonald recommends:

200mg caffeine
1-3 grams of l-tyrosine
High GI carb

He stole that from me, I've been recommending coffee and wine gums for years

JJayoo

Have been using this over the past week. Have increased the dosage gradually and at 3 scoops I still feel zero. I just don't respond to stimulants.

Duck's hoop

They've definitely changed the formula. I took it last year for a tub, loved it.

I stopped for a few months and bought the new 'improved' flavour. It's nowhere near the same quality of product.

The old craze was worryingly great. At times I wondered if I was going to gym just for the buzz off the craze.

harvester of sorrow

JJayoo wrote: »

Have been using this over the past week. Have increased the dosage gradually and at 3 scoops I still feel zero. I just don't respond to stimulants.

Too much cake i'd say.....

JJayoo

harvester of sorrow wrote: »

Too much cake i'd say.....

....or not enough, 12 scoops will be enough nom nom vomit nom

mannequinhands

sorry if this is stating the obvious but have you been taking them on a empty stomach ????

jugger0

Craze done fook all for me, it actually made me really sad after workouts... strange stuff


Long live the old jack3d!

JJayoo

mannequinhands wrote: »

sorry if this is stating the obvious but have you been taking them on a empty stomach ????

Nope I had eaten about 2 hours before. It's the same with caffeine it just has zero effect.