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  • 09-05-2013 10:01pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 276 ✭✭


    A rather clever Spanish philospher in the 20th Century by the name of Santayana once said ""Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it".

    The Labour Party are proposing that History be made no longer compulsory for post primary students while the Gaelic Language spoken by a minority in this country remains at the core of Education?

    I smell a rat! Socialists are notorious for revisionism, but you wouldn't know unless you've studied history....

    So what's more important - speaking a language that belongs in History or knowing that it once existed?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I'm sayin nuttin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 208 ✭✭Rastadoyle


    roy may have a hist ye


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    ive a large histroy in the garden shed


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,266 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Nil a fhios agam. :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    A rather clever Spanish philospher in the 20th Century by the name of Santayana once said ""Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it".

    The Labour Party are proposing that History be made no longer compulsory for post primary students while the Gaelic Language spoken by a minority in this country remains at the core of Education?

    I smell a rat! Socialists are notorious for revisionism, but you wouldn't know unless you've studied history....

    So what's more important - speaking a language that belongs in History or knowing that it once existed?
    My apologies but could please explain your apparent link between the Irish Labour Party and Socialism? It is akin to comparing sewarge to champagne!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 112 ✭✭Arcsin


    Is maith liom caca milis.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Geography would have been a much better contender to get downsized.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Arcsin wrote: »
    Is maith liom caca milis.
    Is maith leatsa cac.


  • Registered Users Posts: 112 ✭✭Arcsin


    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    Is maith leatsa cac.

    An bhfuil cead agam dul go dti an leitreais? Is maith liom cac.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,266 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    Geography would have been a much better contender to get downsized.
    Indeed. There's far too much of the stuff. Can't walk out the front door without tripping up over bloody geography. History's handy to avoid. Its always behind you...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Arcsin wrote: »
    An bhfuil cead agam dul go dti an leitreais? Is maith liom cac.

    NIL :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Ta me balls


  • Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Labour will be buried in the next election:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    Our current expensive education system could be effectively replaced by an afternoon showing children how to use google.
    We can then use the kids current years of primary and secondary education (ages 4 to 17) by creating a cheap labour force to allow us compete with the Eastern European and Chinese manufacturing industries.
    Sure the teachers will lose their jobs, but those guys are always complaining anyway. It's a win-win for Ireland.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,870 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Is the OP pissed off about Gaeilge?
    Or is this a rant about sly political actions?

    I can't tell which point they're trying to make at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    Labour will be buried in the next election:mad:

    they will be buried before that, the local elections are next year. im looking forward to seeing fat rabbite thrown out of politics


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    why can't we have both?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,128 ✭✭✭✭aaronjumper


    Uriel. wrote: »
    why can't we have both?

    No recession in your house! :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭ian87


    I normally delete mine. I do be looking at some shocking stuff.


  • Registered Users Posts: 276 ✭✭Wade in the Sea


    Is the OP pissed off about Gaeilge?
    Or is this a rant about sly political actions?

    I can't tell which point they're trying to make at all.

    A bit of both really. If you want to focus on what Irish Children of today will NEED in the future you can argue the case for Maths, English, Science or even a main stream European language, but how can anyone say in the same breath that the Irish Language reinforces your Irishness, but knowing how you came to be Irish does not?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    A rather clever Spanish philospher in the 20th Century by the name of Santayana once said ""Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it".

    The Labour Party are proposing that History be made no longer compulsory for post primary students while the Gaelic Language spoken by a minority in this country remains at the core of Education?

    I smell a rat! Socialists are notorious for revisionism, but you wouldn't know unless you've studied history....

    So what's more important - speaking a language that belongs in History or knowing that it once existed?
    History was never compulsory for post primary students?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    History was never compulsory for post primary students?


    Up till the Junior Cert is was, was it not?


  • Registered Users Posts: 276 ✭✭Wade in the Sea


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    History was never compulsory for post primary students?

    It was/is compulsory upto the Junior Cert.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    It was/is compulsory upto the Junior Cert.
    No? I didn't do it for the Junior Cert?


  • Registered Users Posts: 605 ✭✭✭pastorbarrett


    Socialists are notorious for revisionism, but you wouldn't know unless you've studied history....

    Nevermind socialism, history as subject matter is the greatest exercise in revisionism.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Nevermind socialism, history as subject matter is the greatest exercise in revisionism.
    This, history in this country is very biased.


  • Registered Users Posts: 276 ✭✭Wade in the Sea




  • Registered Users Posts: 266 ✭✭kilkenny12


    Another "anti Irish language" thread..

    History always repeats itself.
    Irish is great craic.
    If ya want to bash a useless subject, get rid of art.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭joebloggs32


    There's no future in history.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    This, history in this country is very biased.

    Erm..... History classes in secondary education tends to be biased in most countries. It's not unique to Ireland.


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