Power tripping bouncers

Rabies

We all know the usual AH rants... blah blah blah...





Lets turn it around for a second

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwav8TtATrM

mods, I know this is suited to CVPL, but the bouncer topic is always a hot one in AH. Can it stay?

lkionm

....Just let me turn you around first and show you where you left your jacket.

Foxhound38

How did they get the condescending tone so bang on?

Excellent stuff!

scudzilla

This is an even funnier bouncer vid, an idiot try's to get into a club, gets refused and acts the maggot, Idiot doesn't realise the bouncer is actually Michael Kuhr, world kick boxing champ at the time, who trains idiots brother, when he does his face is priceless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWfetF1jCO4

SparkySpitfire

"How the hell do you have enough gym, mate?"

:pac:

dodderangler

So what steroids are you on

youreadthat

Was on a night out with just me and another guy with a group of 5 other girls from college who were hot as hell, couldn't believe my luck. We line up to go in a club and I'm last of the group so everyone's gone in, then I trip slightly on some uneven paving, bouncer sees me and tells me I'm stumbling and clearly drunk so can't go in. I wasn't drunk at all, unfortunately I couldn't contact anyone I was with and was a long way from home, and no other friends were in the area so I went to a pub alone and got drunk. Things then get blurry but I ending up singing karaoke in a gay/lesbian pub, then I don't remember anything but getting into taxi home...

Bastard bouncer.

Rabies

youreadthat wrote: »

Was on a night out with just me and another guy with a group of 5 other girls from college who were hot as hell, couldn't believe my luck. We line up to go in a club and I'm last of the group so everyone's gone in, then I trip slightly on some uneven paving, bouncer sees me and tells me I'm stumbling and clearly drunk so can't go in. I wasn't drunk at all, unfortunately I couldn't contact anyone I was with and was a long way from home, and no other friends were in the area so I went to a pub alone and got drunk. Things then get blurry but I ending up singing karaoke in a gay/lesbian pub, then I don't remember anything but getting into taxi home...

Bastard bouncer.

The bouncer turned you ghey

Chuck Stone

I think it's acted.

Rabies

Don't think it's all acted. The first guy prob is.
Maybe the film crew got consent from the bouncer's employer to do it.

The chocolate bar is made by a big company, no way would they do filming without consent.

Ruudi_Mentari

The power trip is that like the only trusted method to put them to ground?!

but you know, even when they are unawares it is hard.........

Ruudi_Mentari

Foxhound38 wrote: »

How did they get the condescending tone so bang on?

Excellent stuff!

whilst he is "playing god" no less. certainly no more!

not particularly religious but i worry about people who like to play "god" in such a mocking fashion..... still, that still is still funny

Adrift

Hope I'm not breaking any rules here, but has anyone seen the clip posted recently of the bouncers tackling a couple of lads in Dublin?

At first I thought they acted accordingly as the lads in question were giving them a fair bit of abuse. But watching the clip again, I think the bouncers went well overboard in tackling the lads who were abusing them, they really went beyond making their point. Has anyone else seen this and what do they think?

Red Crow

Of course they did but the law will be on their side. I know some clubs will fire bouncers if they're creating bad publicity but usually they can get away with quite a bit.

I've often seen a bouncer getting a good smack or taking a bit of a hiding and this is why they are overly aggressive. Bouncers are people too and they haven't a clue what some drunk fella is going to do. If someone is shouting at them when they are obviously pissed then whats to stop that person picking up a bottle and smashing it in your face. If you're big enough to act like a d1ck then you can expect to be put on the ground with force.

Obviously there are some bouncers who are useless and looking for a scrap but most are just lads looking to make a few bob on the side of the day job.

crockholm

^^^^^^^^

Thats about it in a nutshell, I knew fella's that would be dissappointed if there was no "action",also learned to avoid them too,a successful night was a night where everyone went home safe,the punters a little tipsy and the staff a little richer.

Topper Harley

I have to say, I can't even remember the last time I had a bad experience with a bouncer. Best way to avoid any confrontations is to just be polite and not off your head and they'll treat you with respect.

I was talking to one bouncer on the door of a nightclub in town late one night after they'd thrown some piss head out. Your man was shouting abuse at the bouncers and threatening to do this, that and the other. I asked the bouncer was he not concerned and he just said if your man was going to do anything, he'd have done it by now.

They deal with a lot of people and they're bound to run in to a fair few assholes. Through their experiences most of them are probably quite good at sussing someone out with little more than a glance but the odd time they might make a mistake. If you explain their mistake to them courteously and calmly, they'll often relent.

For anyone who continually gets treated like some sort of miscreant, I'll leave you with this:
"The first time someone calls you a horse you punch him on the nose, the second time someone calls you a horse you call him a jerk but the third time someone calls you a horse, well then perhaps it's time to go shopping for a saddle." :P:P:P

lahalane

When I was in Australia I found it very hard to get any hop off the bouncers. Wouldn't let me in a lot of the time, even times when I wasn't even drinking. My eyes make me look drunk even when I'm sober though so I suppose I understand to some degree. Still thought they would realise I was sober when I politely told them my situation.

Nice to be back in Ireland now though where you can stagger in with no hassle whatsoever.

Ave Sodalis

Topper Harley wrote: »

I have to say, I can't even remember the last time I had a bad experience with a bouncer. Best way to avoid any confrontations is to just be polite and not off your head and they'll treat you with respect.

By polite, it means keep your head down and just show them ID. I've had too many situations where myself or a friend have been refused for being too drunk for smiling and asking how their night was going. I don't even drink

Topper Harley wrote: »

They deal with a lot of people and they're bound to run in to a fair few assholes. Through their experiences most of them are probably quite good at sussing someone out with little more than a glance but the odd time they might make a mistake. If you explain their mistake to them courteously and calmly, they'll often relent.

Really? I've tried quite a few ways to get a bouncer to relent (never violent or aggressive or rude) but it never worked. They just look over you and ignore what you're saying.

Topper Harley wrote: »

For anyone who continually gets treated like some sort of miscreant, I'll leave you with this:
"The first time someone calls you a horse you punch him on the nose, the second time someone calls you a horse you call him a jerk but the third time someone calls you a horse, well then perhaps it's time to go shopping for a saddle." :P:P:P

:pac:

returnNull

Some bouncers are grand,others are muppets.If they refuse you ,just move on and spend your money elsewhere,No point fighting with them unless your group out numbers them

Femme_Fatale

Most bouncers are grand. The "power-tripping" allegations being applied to all or most of them tend to come from people who are under-age, too pissed, acting the tool... however it's always anyone's fault but their own.

Then there are those who are attired in a way that's not in accordance with the dress code, and while I often think "dress code" is a load of pretentious toss (within reason - fair enough not looking like a hobo in a swanky place), it's not the bouncer's fault that such rules are in place.

returnNull

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

The "power-tripping" allegations being applied to all or most of them tend to come from people who are under-age, too pissed, acting the tool... however it's always anyone's fault but their own.

not true,I havent drank since january and have been out a good few times and have seen some bouncers act like tools(a minority in fairness)." Couples walking up to the door and the bouncers refusing the lads and making 'funny' comments about the girls being with them.

Also ,if you only do it once,get into temple bar about half 2 sober:pac:
How anybody gets home with out being sexually assualted,ran over or kicked to death is a mystery!!

Femme_Fatale

returnNull wrote: »

Also ,if you only do it once,get into temple bar about half 2 sober:pac:

Not for all the tea in China. :pac:

returnNull

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Not for all the tea in China. :pac:

I hear ye!

It really is an eye opener!

Omackeral

Was out for the Champions League final between Bayern and Dortmund at the weekend with two other lads and we were looking for somewhere to watch the game and have a few pints. At about 7pm and not one drink taken, we walked to a bar on O Connell Street and were given the ole "regulars only".

I just laughed and said "pal, there's some amount of Germans in there, they must jet in weekly do they?". Dzope!

Grand Moff Tarkin

90-95% of them are roid heads on a power trip who will never do any better in life because the lack the ability to read and write beyond a high infants level.

Topper Harley

sup_dude wrote: »

Really? I've tried quite a few ways to get a bouncer to relent (never violent or aggressive or rude) but it never worked. They just look over you and ignore what you're saying.

Best way I (actually it was my friend on my behalf) got a bouncer to relent was in town once not so long ago. It was approaching last orders and I went from one club to another to meet some friends. Told the bouncer I was meeting friends, having one more pint and then I'd be on my merry way. It was pissing rain too so I was sure he'd take pity on me. No chance, wasn't getting in.

Then my friend comes along and tries to sweet talk him. Still no. So my friend declares that he'll impress him so much by accurately doing huge maths calculations on the spot (something like Malcolm in the Middle) that he'll let me in. Bouncer says he's not a numbers man so that would mean nothing to him. So they move on to languages and to cut a long story short (bit late for that now, sorry ) they end up having a conversation in Chinese and the bouncer turns to me and goes "Ah, go on then." So it can be done.

Grand Moff Tarkin wrote: »

90-95% of them are roid heads on a power trip who will never do any better in life because the lack the ability to read and write beyond a high infants level.

Tell you what, do an experiment for us. Say that to every bouncer you meet and see what response you get. I'd bet that 5% (if even that) react by giving you a beating or just a telling off and the other 95% show just how stupid they are and ignore you.

discus

Good one Topper Harley, you've pretty much described a once-off, chance encounter of a bouncer relenting.

I've noticed that since I go out drinking with lads who'd be a bit rougher than your average, that bouncers don't ever stop us as a gang, or as individuals. The worst I got was "remember, if there's trouble, let us deal with it". Compare that to when I go out with my nicer friends, who somehow get stopped for less-than rational reasons. Bouncers acting like chicken ****s, and picking their battles. Not gonna get banged out cold by a skinny uni student are they?

hatrickpatrick

After years of going to clubs the way to deal with bouncers is to just wait for a shift change. Extremely rarely does the same bouncer stay on the door for the entire night, they switch around between manning the door and patrolling inside.

Any time I've been refused entry I've used this tactic and genuinely I don't think I've ever found myself waiting more than about 20 minutes to get inside.

Chucky the tree

Omackeral wrote: »

Was out for the Champions League final between Bayern and Dortmund at the weekend with two other lads and we were looking for somewhere to watch the game and have a few pints. At about 7pm and not one drink taken, we walked to a bar on O Connell Street and were given the ole "regulars only".

I just laughed and said "pal, there's some amount of Germans in there, they must jet in weekly do they?". Dzope!

Bit rich considering you seem to believe they were actually being honest when they said regulars only.

Galwayguy35

I had only one bad experience of bouncers (well rather one bouncer) about 15 years ago when I was headbutted in an unprovoked attack.

Bouncer comes over after seeing me pumping blood puts me in a headlock and throws me out the door, of course there was no CCTV back then in clubs but if it was now I would have both him and the other asshole up on assault charges.

Grand Moff Tarkin

Topper Harley wrote: »

Tell you what, do an experiment for us. Say that to every bouncer you meet and see what response you get. I'd bet that 5% (if even that) react by giving you a beating or just a telling off and the other 95% show just how stupid they are and ignore you.

Why would I want to do that in the first place? At this hour of my life I have no interest in going to town and having the misfortune of having to deal with these apes who are more often than not high on steroids and other substances which give them an over inflated sense of self importance because they stand outside the door of a pub or club.

Nodin

Grand Moff Tarkin wrote: »

Why would I want to do that in the first place? At this hour of my life I have no interest in going to town and having the misfortune of having to deal with these apes who are more often than not high on steroids and other substances which give them an over inflated sense of self importance because they stand outside the door of a pub or club.

...by and large, its a fairly proffessonal set up in town these days.

Omackeral

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Bit rich considering you seem to believe they were actually being honest when they said regulars only.

Well I couldn't give a fiddlers what he thought (or what you think, for that matter) in all honesty. If a doorman wants to refuse 3 decent hard working lads in a recession, that's his choice and their loss. We just went on to the next spot and enjoyed the game and few cold ones.

arybvtcw0eolkf

discus wrote: »

Good one Topper Harley, you've pretty much described a once-off, chance encounter of a bouncer relenting.

I've noticed that since I go out drinking with lads who'd be a bit rougher than your average, that bouncers don't ever stop us as a gang, or as individuals. The worst I got was "remember, if there's trouble, let us deal with it". Compare that to when I go out with my nicer friends, who somehow get stopped for less-than rational reasons. Bouncers acting like chicken ****s, and picking their battles. Not gonna get banged out cold by a skinny uni student are they?

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

After years of going to clubs the way to deal with bouncers is to just wait for a shift change. Extremely rarely does the same bouncer stay on the door for the entire night, they switch around between manning the door and patrolling inside.

Any time I've been refused entry I've used this tactic and genuinely I don't think I've ever found myself waiting more than about 20 minutes to get inside.

Speaking with some twenty plus years of working the doors I can say this, the worse part of the night isn't the aggressive drunks, or the occasional assault/fight. Its not the drunk who pisses/sh*ts/pukes himself/herself. Or the pick pockets, or the junkies trying to use the toilets for a turn on, or bad managers/owners etc etc

Its the pure and utter bullsh*t stories I've to listen to, and wonder to myself ''Self ~ do these people really believe this stuff, are the voices that real?".

[btw I'm sure the above are real NOT ]

Working the doors is one of the best jobs I've ever done, people are generally great.. Its some craic, and as sh*tty as the worse times are the good times and good people more than make up for it.

Galwayguy35

I'd have to agree that it seems to be al lot more professional and regulated these days compared to years ago where anyone could get a job on the door if he was well built and looked like he could handle himself.

Topper Harley

discus wrote: »

Good one Topper Harley, you've pretty much described a once-off, chance encounter of a bouncer relenting.

I'm not saying it always works but it just goes to show that it can be done...just not normally when it's nearly closing time and you've clearly already had a few bevies.

Grand Moff Tarkin wrote: »

Why would I want to do that in the first place? At this hour of my life I have no interest in going to town and having the misfortune of having to deal with these apes who are more often than not high on steroids and other substances which give them an over inflated sense of self importance because they stand outside the door of a pub or club.

You're going to the wrong places, pal.

Rabies

Omackeral wrote: »

Well I couldn't give a fiddlers what he thought (or what you think, for that matter) in all honesty. If a doorman wants to refuse 3 decent hard working lads in a recession, that's his choice and their loss. We just went on to the next spot and enjoyed the game and few cold ones.

People need to stop throwing that line around.
"they should want our business"
"its a recession"

People forget, it is still a business. They can refuse entry to anyone, and if that means the business fails, then so be it.
If they have already made their money and are happy ticking over, then let them be.
Don't get sh!tty because you want to give them your money and can't. Go to the next place, grab a straw and suck it up.

Grand Moff Tarkin

Nodin wrote: »

...by and large, its a fairly proffessonal set up in town these days.

That would depend on where you live.

Omackeral

Rabies wrote: »

People need to stop throwing that line around.
"they should want our business"
"its a recession"

People forget, it is still a business. They can refuse entry to anyone, and if that means the business fails, then so be it.
If they have already made their money and are happy ticking over, then let them be.
Don't get sh!tty because you want to give them your money and can't. Go to the next place, grab a straw and suck it up.

Which is exactly what I did. Went to the next place and had a laugh at the situation with the German tourists in mind. I didn't say the recession line to the doorman, just thought it to myself. As I said, their loss, no biggie

SEPT 23 1989

Its been a good few years since i have been refused entry into anywhere but when i was i was plastered never sober so they had every right to tell me to fcuk off

FTA69

Yet again people seem to think bouncers run the club and determine everything to do with the place. Believe it or not the owners/managers do that. In inner-city nightspots, managers try and create a "scene". That may well be a so-called trendy spot, an "alternative" venue, a rocker bar, a sports bar, a suits-and-cocktails bar, a culchie venue, a meat market or whatever else. In creating that scene a manager will set a door policy. Believe it or not the doorman doesn't give a toss about your runners or what social make-up a large group of lads is. More often than not he is only implementing a policy set by someone else. If you have a problem with that then take it up with the owner or blame the general snobbery we have in society that creates such division. Don't whinge to the doorman about it, he'll be too busy not giving a sh*t.

Also the majority of stories I've heard about doormen are bullsh*t. If there's one thing Irish people are rubbish at, it's taking responsibility for their drunken behaviour. After any dispute the narrative put forward is always "the bouncer was a prick/on a power trip etc", never "I was a drunk arse who told the bouncer he was a stupid pleb after he refused me entry because I was falling around the place."

Are there lads on the door who are rubbish? Of course there are, I've worked with some prize d*ckheads in my time, but you'll find those eejits in ANY job you can think of. They tend not to last long to be honest. Also doorstaff come from every background; I've worked with a variety of athletes, PhD students and every other job you can think of. And believe me, it can be a difficult job dealing with some of the wretches you encounter on the street while managing hundreds of p*ssed and drugged up people in a heaving building.

discus

Alaina Obnoxious Fennel wrote: »

[btw I'm sure the above are real NOT ]

I've no idea why you think I'd make it up. So you're telling me that as a soldier, you've never had a bouncer tell your and your lads "if you're getting hassle, let us handle it and don't be fighting"? Must be an exclusive line used by bouncers in southern England so!

FTA69

I'd say it was your notion that bouncers are afraid of you and your hard buddies while relishing the chance to pick on university students that he finds a load of sh*te.

discus

I'm not a fighter btw, and I've never got much in the way of hassle off bouncers thank god. But it's broken my heart when I've seen friends or strangers be refused entry, even when they're with a group of friends for no reason. A lad I know has aspergers, and watching bouncers get a laugh out of him when they question him incites me.

FTA69

Personally I'm of the opinion that the quality of doormen in England (London especially) is pretty poor. As I said, you'll find assholes in every job though.

entropi

In just about every case I've seen of someone refused, it was because the doorman correctly judged the patron to be too drunk, or they were acting the bollox on the street, which might have carried on in the pub/club and started knocking drinks over etc. I've seen loads of people thrown out for the same reasons.

The only times I've ever been denied entry somewhere was when I was up in Dublin, and also sober!

One of these times I was told to go off and get a coffee and sober up, I said there's no point, and offered to explain why to the doorman if I had a minute to do so (he listened to me anyway) and said go ahead and go in, you're alright.