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Has anyone seen the Chinese copies of all the major brands? I have heard they are sh** as far as the electronics go but that the bodies and neck can be decent! Would it be wrong to buy one of these guitars if you were going to strip it down paint and all and rebuild it as a project? To be honest my morals are confused. all i want are the body/neck and ill make a perfect child
Also down the road i want to paint a few bits and pieces, could anyone tell me what goes into the clear coat/methods?0 -
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I have heard they are sh** as far as the electronics go but that the bodies and neck can be decent! Would it be wrong to buy one of these guitars if you were going to strip it down paint and all and rebuild it as a project? To be honest my morals are confused. all i want are the body/neck and ill make a perfect child
I wouldn't feel worried about the morality of buying a copy of an established brand - it's not like you'd be attacking indigenous Irish industry. I'd be more worried about getting a seriously sub-par instrument.
There's no telling what they're made of or, indeed, how they treat their workers.
If you want a Gibson, save up or just buy an Epiphone. No one is going to judge you for it. Buying a plywood Fibson and spending hundreds of euros fixing it up would probably receive more scorn than buying an Epi or a Vintage.
There are so many reliable options for cheap Gibson-like guitars that it would be madness to buy a fake.
Should you want a Chinese Fender then you can get a 'real' one - the Modern Player Series. Fender has already cannibalised its product range for you.0 -
Ravelleman wrote: »I wouldn't feel worried about the morality of buying a copy of an established brand - it's not like you'd be attacking indigenous Irish industry. I'd be more worried about getting a seriously sub-par instrument.
There's no telling what they're made of or, indeed, how they treat their workers.
If you want a Gibson, save up or just buy an Epiphone. No one is going to judge you for it. Buying a plywood Fibson and spending hundreds of euros fixing it up would probably receive more scorn than buying an Epi or a Vintage.
There are so many reliable options for cheap Gibson-like guitars that it would be madness to buy a fake.
Should you want a Chinese Fender then you can get a 'real' one - the Modern Player Series. Fender has already cannibalised its product range for you.
True, I wanted a Musicmaster bass though. I was originally looking for all the separate bits, I'm just trying to cost every which way before i make my mind up. I was going to get a bronco just for the body but that 199€ and then its next to impossible to get a 30" neck and if you can for a squire they can be 150€. for that so that's up to 350€, and for that i could buy a new Mikey Way mustang! which I already have
and i Don't want to attack one of those because its pretty and the insides are amazing! 0 -
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Has anyone seen the Chinese copies of all the major brands? I have heard they are sh** as far as the electronics go but that the bodies and neck can be decent! Would it be wrong to buy one of these guitars if you were going to strip it down paint and all and rebuild it as a project? To be honest my morals are confused. all i want are the body/neck and ill make a perfect child
Also down the road i want to paint a few bits and pieces, could anyone tell me what goes into the clear coat/methods?
I have a few friends who were stung with fake guitars (How they never copped before ordering, I don't know) and the majority of them turned out to be fairly dodgy.
One in particular was a fake Epiphone Zakk Wylde sig. The bullseye laminate peeled back in parts within a few weeks, revealing the plywood body underneath. The paint was so poorly applied that the ply leaves were visible on the side. Electronics were muck, (the two "tone" knobs were actually fake, there was just 1 vol, 1 tone) soldered poorly, and noisy as hell.
Fretwork was dodgy - three frets lifting towards the top of the fretboard. The fretboard wood definitely wasn't cured properly and was very brittle, so when we tried to tap in the frets, the wood started to crumble.
The neck was warped, and the truss rod was roaming free.
You get the idea... don't get me started on the Jem copy with the "inlays" which were actually acrylic stickers... :P
Honestly, I reckon if you're looking for a nice project to work on, Cash Convenience/similar shops are your best bet. I was in one in Cork over the weekend, there was a few nice old squier P-basses and a couple of random copies in there, all dirt cheap. Lots of guitars in there too, though I was only interested in the selection of basses so I didn't pay much heed.
If only I hadn't spent all my money on beers the night before.
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I have a few friends who were stung with fake guitars (How they never copped before ordering, I don't know) and the majority of them turned out to be fairly dodgy.
One in particular was a fake Epiphone Zakk Wylde sig. The bullseye laminate peeled back in parts within a few weeks, revealing the plywood body underneath. The paint was so poorly applied that the ply leaves were visible on the side. Electronics were muck, (the two "tone" knobs were actually fake, there was just 1 vol, 1 tone) soldered poorly, and noisy as hell.
Fretwork was dodgy - three frets lifting towards the top of the fretboard. The fretboard wood definitely wasn't cured properly and was very brittle, so when we tried to tap in the frets, the wood started to crumble.
The neck was warped, and the truss rod was roaming free.
You get the idea... don't get me started on the Jem copy with the "inlays" which were actually acrylic stickers... :P
Honestly, I reckon if you're looking for a nice project to work on, Cash Convenience/similar shops are your best bet. I was in one in Cork over the weekend, there was a few nice old squier P-basses and a couple of random copies in there, all dirt cheap. Lots of guitars in there too, though I was only interested in the selection of basses so I didn't pay much heed.
If only I hadn't spent all my money on beers the night before.
That's good to know, i've heard the electronics are dirt/muck/crap, i want to get rid of the insides anyway if i get one! yet I'm hearing mixed reviews about the necks/bodies on some of them. I'm going to do some more research and keeps yas updated with what i do.
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Has anyone seen the Chinese copies of all the major brands? I have heard they are sh** as far as the electronics go but that the bodies and neck can be decent! Would it be wrong to buy one of these guitars if you were going to strip it down paint and all and rebuild it as a project? To be honest my morals are confused. all i want are the body/neck and ill make a perfect child
Also down the road i want to paint a few bits and pieces, could anyone tell me what goes into the clear coat/methods?
The best Chinese Fender copies
http://www.fender.com/squier/series/classic-vibe/0 -
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No problem. I'll probably get stuck in sometime next week. Although I have been saying that for some time now...!I wouldnt mind seeing some pics of your progress man! I like those guitars!
Maybe having somebody to monitor progress will light a bit of a fire under me. It's this model/spec we're dealing with.
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I'm new to instrument restoration, and instruments themselves.
Got a 1/2 Violin today, going to restore it (parts ordered already
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Also thought it would be interesting for others for me to video progress!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qAk6ibhGwk
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I'm new to instrument restoration, and instruments themselves.
Got a 1/2 Violin today, going to restore it (parts ordered already)
Also thought it would be interesting for others for me to video progress!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qAk6ibhGwk
Thanks
Half a violin? In at the deep end, eh'!0 -
Half a violin? In at the deep end, eh'!
Nonono, Not half a violin! you can clearly see from the video lol
http://store.musicbasics.com/howtodetrigs.html
Size is half, when you see someone selling a 4/4 Violin, dont think 4/4 means, oh he has 1 violin only decided to put it in a complicated way!
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Will follow your progress. Do you know half a fiddler?Nonono, Not half a violin! you can clearly see from the video lol
http://store.musicbasics.com/howtodetrigs.html
Size is half, when you see someone selling a 4/4 Violin, dont think 4/4 means, oh he has 1 violin only decided to put it in a complicated way!
:-)0
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