Is this really that unhealthy?

carzony

I never have a breakfast and eat really late into the night, Like today my first meal was at 4.00pm I had a chicken fillet role and then I came home and had a good few bits to eat at about 2.00am this morning ( tuna and cheese sandwich and a packet of cheese crisps) That will do me till tomorrow. I'm just wondering how bad a chicken fillet role from your local petrol garage is for you? I am eating 4-5 of them a week:o

I don't really excersize but Strange thing is I never put on weight atall i'm 21, just over 6ft and at 11 stone atm.


If this is the wrong forum sorry :rolleyes:

12gauge dave

A chicken fillet roll will be alot better than a breakfast roll for example and if you avoid butter or mayo or both then all the better im not 100% sure of nutritional info of a deli chicken fillet roll so not sure of cals etc

Eating twice in one day and strange hours isnt ideal try eat 4 times a day if you can for a more balanced and constant energy supply and of course exercise is highly recommended wether overweight or not we are as humans designed to be active so take up a sport or go jogging walking etc your not overweight so you wont be long picking one up and enjoy it before you know it:)
Im no expert but simply have a small meal every 3-4 hours and try get active:)

Mr. CooL ICE

12gauge dave wrote: »

A chicken fillet roll will be alot better than a breakfast roll for example and if you avoid butter or mayo or both then all the better im not 100% sure of nutritional info of a deli chicken fillet roll so not sure of cals etc

Eating twice in one day and strange hours isnt ideal try eat 4 times a day if you can for a more balanced and constant energy supply and of course exercise is highly recommended wether overweight or not we are as humans designed to be active so take up a sport or go jogging walking etc your not overweight so you wont be long picking one up and enjoy it before you know it:)
Im no expert but simply have a small meal every 3-4 hours and try get active:)

Disagree with most of this. Tbh, there isn't a whole lot of nutritional difference between a chicken fillet roll and a breakfast roll from a petrol station. Also, there isn't sufficient evidence to suggest many small meals is 'better' than few large meals.

OP, you should have a healthy and balanced diet. By this I mean fruit, veg, meat and dairy. Regardless of whether you are putting on weight or not, you are missing out on many essential vitamins and minerals by just eating rolls, sandwiches and crisps. If your find yourself resorting to only eating convenience foods, you need to change your approach to how you eat.

Layinghen

OP you need to get fruit and veg into your diet. You are young so at the moment you don't seem to be suffering any ill effects from not having a balanced diet but in years to come you might not be so lucky.

wolfpawnat

I would assume as long as you are getting the recommended calories for your gender and are getting your vitamin and nutrient requirements met, then whether it is 1 meal a day or 15, it shouldn't really matter.

OP, you are not getting everything you need from a chicken roll (carbs, salts, protein and fats without any veg) and a tuna and cheese sandwich (carbs, protein, salt and fat again) and crisps (just fat) where is the fibre? vitamins A-D? They are all needed to be at peek health. We all can go a small while on a iffy to bad diet, but to feel our best, we really need a good balanced diet. Also, I would think as delicious as a fillet roll is (I want one now talking about it) would you not vary it up a bit. A veggie wrap here, a salad there. No need to go health freak on it, just vary it up to make sure you are more likely to get what you need.

wallyMe

Thats not even 1000 calories your eating id say, no wonder you don't put on weight.

Bread is bad for you, better off with a few spuds, veg and nice piece of chicken.

Its a terrible diet and will not be long before your energy levels go to zero

folamh

There is actually a body of emerging research examining the health benefits of fasting for long periods between meals as you are doing, as opposed to frequent snacking. Google "intermittent fasting". The idea is that your body goes into a state of autophagy which means you are burning waste cells. Most people doing IF implement a 5-8 hour eating period and fast for the remaining 16-20 or so. It is pretty easy and for some people this would be how they structure their eating times regardless. There is also "alternate day fasting".

As others have pointed out, it is not the timing of your eating that you should be worrying about so much as the quality of your food. Bread is very bad for you. Try to eat more veggies, fruit, non-processed meat, fish, potatoes, nuts and seeds. Skip the ketchup, mayo and seed oils. Butter is okay (make sure it's grassfed/kerrygold), as are olive oil and coconut oil.

Aim for nutrient density rather than meeting your calorie requirements.

re.mark.able

I'd disagree that the OP is really 'fasting' - they're eating till 2am so probably not fully asleep till 3 or later so, guessing 8 hours sleep (or more because of lack of energy) not out of bed at least 11 or 12 meaning eating at 4pm is more like a skipped breakfast than fasting. and if you're getting up that late you're body clock is completely out of whack and with doing no exercise it'd be easy to wait till 4 to eat.
I have a suspicion that there's some soda drinking in there that we're not being told about. And honestly, being 6 foot and having been 11 stone with minimal exercise at one stage, you may not be gaining weight but i'd consider 11 stone to be a little bit over weight as very little of that would be muscle.

Mellor

wolfpawnat wrote: »

I would assume as long as you are getting the recommended calories for your gender

there's no such thing as recommended calories for you gender. It's a ridiculous concept.
Somehow "averages" became "guidelines", which is pretty stupid.

re.mark.able wrote: »

I'd disagree that the OP is really 'fasting' - they're eating till 2am so probably not fully asleep till 3 or later so, guessing 8 hours sleep (or more because of lack of energy) not out of bed at least 11 or 12 meaning eating at 4pm is more like a skipped breakfast than fasting.

The OP is eating over an 10 hour window and fasting for 14 hours.
Intermittent fasting is often done in an 8/16 format. So he isn't all that far from IF right now.
Often the only change needed to make somebody's routine fit an 8/16 protocol is to skipping or a late breakfast.

re.mark.able

[QUOTE=Mellor;84507553
The OP is eating over an 10 hour window and fasting for 14 hours.
Intermittent fasting is often done in an 8/16 format. So he isn't all that far from IF right now.
Often the only change needed to make somebody's routine fit an 8/16 protocol is to skipping or a late breakfast.[/QUOTE]

Ok, but are we not losing sight of the important thing here - the OP (given the example day) only eats bread, meat and dairy. I think there's bigger issues here other than just calorie counting.

wolfpawnat

Mellor wrote: »

there's no such thing as recommended calories for you gender. It's a ridiculous concept.
Somehow "averages" became "guidelines", which is pretty stupid.

Well yes, they are guidelines, guidelines are not rules, they are just a guide to approximate needs. Most women only require 2000 cal much unless they are trying to cut fat or are sportswomen or are pregnant then they need more.

What is essential is to get the right vitamins and nutrients into the body and minimize salts, sugars and sat fats.

glasagusban

As far I am aware the breaded chicken in chicken fillet rolls is deep fried, then frozen, before being cooked in the garage. It is also the cheapest chicken you can get and likely to be of the type pumped full of oestrogen -particularly bad for a male. 4 to 5 of these a week is not healthy!

Zulu

OP, if you can fix your diet now, your 30 year old future self will greatly appreciate it.

Mellor

re.mark.able wrote: »

Ok, but are we not losing sight of the important thing here - the OP (given the example day) only eats bread, meat and dairy. I think there's bigger issues here other than just calorie counting.

Where did I mention calorie counting?
I was pointing out that his timing is close if an IF diet, which is perfectly healthy. So that he can no longer worry if that's an issue and look at the actual problems.

wolfpawnat wrote: »

Well yes, they are guidelines, guidelines are not rules, they are just a guide to approximate needs. Most women only require 2000 cal much unless they are trying to cut fat or are sportswomen or are pregnant then they need more.

No it isn't a guideline, certainly not a useful one. It's not approximate need. It could be 1300, it could be 2600. The variance is so big that 2000 is useless. As is the idea that you need to eat the right amount for your gender.

syklops

carzony wrote: »

I never have a breakfast and eat really late into the night, Like today my first meal was at 4.00pm I had a chicken fillet role and then I came home and had a good few bits to eat at about 2.00am this morning ( tuna and cheese sandwich and a packet of cheese crisps) That will do me till tomorrow. I'm just wondering how bad a chicken fillet role from your local petrol garage is for you? I am eating 4-5 of them a week:o

I don't really excersize but Strange thing is I never put on weight atall i'm 21, just over 6ft and at 11 stone atm.


If this is the wrong forum sorry :rolleyes:

At 21 you could live on asbestos and not put on any weight, but your 26 year old self will not be so flexible. You won't notice the weight going on, and believe me, it is much harder to lose than put on, and its even more so when you don't have a healthy dietary habit.

In my opinion, a chicken fillet roll, common in Statoil filling stations and Deli's the country over, have about the same nutritional value as 2 McChicken sandwiches. Now ask yourself how healthy it would be to eat 8-10 McChicken Sandwiches in a week.

You're probably getting the chicken fillet roll because it's fast and convenient, but as another poster pointed out, it will be made from the worst cuts of chicken, then breaded, deep fried, and there is a good chance has been kept warm since they were made early that morning, and you buy it at 4pm.

Some quick tips:

-Swap the crisps, which serve no nutritional value for a handful of nuts, almond/cashew etc.
-Keep some boiled eggs in the fridge for a quick go to snack, of if your in a hurry in the morning.
-Watch the soda or energy drink intake. When I was 21 I was a night owl too, but I had to function in the morning so me and coke(not the kind you sniff) became good friends.

ebixa82

There's more to healthiness than than not being overweight.

You might have a fast metabolism which means you are staying scrawny.

But by the sounds of it you are very unhealthy, just too young to realize it.

Give it another 10-15 years, your insides will be rotting away, your cholesterol will be high, you'll possibly develop diabetes.

Unless you are really stupid or haven't been educated you know your diet is crap. There is no need to act such a ridiculous question. Is there?