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Suspension experience & pics (Not for the squeamish!)
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25-04-2013 1:38am#1Something I've wanted to do for years is a suspension. Took my first baby steps earlier. Now it's not a full suspension with the rig and everything yet, this was just a practise of sorts to see how I coped
Almost forgot to say, thanx to Patric in Iconic Arts for doing this. Definitely having someone like him do it makes it so much easier10
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RhoDoDenDron wrote: »That's sweet, and I see you're in capable hands there too
Thanx Rho. It wasn't as bad as I expected to be honest and it got easier the more tension I put against the ropes. Definitely doesn't feel like getting tattooed0 -
Split this out into it's own thread to protect those that don't like this kind of thing, and so that you guys can engage in as much chat about it as you want instead of it being confined to the "Show you mine" thread!
Looks great! It's not something I would ever do, but I still find it fascinating!
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Unfortunately there's not a lot of people searching for suspensions on boards, so there won't be much chat in this thread anyway. That's why I put it in the show you mine section, to generate conversation. Surely in a section with piercings in title people should exist to see some piercings??DamoElDiablo wrote: »Split this out into it's own thread to protect those that don't like this kind of thing, and so that you guys can engage in as much chat about it as you want instead of it being confined to the "Show you mine" thread!
Looks great! It's not something I would ever do, but I still find it fascinating!0 -
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Plus, you'll find that even in this section of boards people lean towards tattoos, not piercings. It's rare enough that I need people in this country with the emphasis on piercings.
Are you going to be fully suspended any time soon? Because I may well see you there. Got a bit of "insider knowledge" on why there hasn't been a proper suspension gig in Ireland since Christmas, but I'm due to get hung myself at the next one, in a month or two. 0 -
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RhoDoDenDron wrote: »Plus, you'll find that even in this section of boards people lean towards tattoos, not piercings. It's rare enough that I need people in this country with the emphasis on piercings.
Are you going to be fully suspended any time soon? Because I may well see you there. Got a bit of "insider knowledge" on why there hasn't been a proper suspension gig in Ireland since Christmas, but I'm due to get hung myself at the next one, in a month or two.
Well then they should change the thread to 'Show you my tattoo' There simply isn't enough interest in suspension to sustain is own thread. I couldn't find any info on here a few months ago, I had to start my own thread to simply get people to talk and even then I think there was only 2 posters than contributed. Surprisingly, the only piercing I actually have is my septum, tattoos are my main interest
Still taking my baby steps for the time being but eventually I would like to do a full suspension. I've got such little experience with piercings that I wanted to test myself yesterday before committing to it.
Yeah I hope to go along to the next show get a better sense of everything involved0 -
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Even I was looking in the mirror thinking 'what the hell am i doing?'Please Kill Me wrote: »Hats off to ya bud! It sounds....cool in a way. On one hand, I'm like EWW! On the other, I'd almost give it a go. Stupid question, but with doing this a lot, would it stretch the skin to it's "elastic limit" whereby it won't go back to it's original position or cause sagging? No, the skin will always return back to normal. Even a big guy suspending his whole body weight will only stretch the skin by a few inches. It returns back to normal basically as soon as the tension is released. 0 -
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It sounds very cool, best of luck with it PBF. It's never something i'd do myself, but find the process, and the reasoning behind it really fascinating. Be sure to let us know how you're getting on.
I remember i was watching something about suspension a while back, looked over at my mam to see her reaction, and nearly fell off the chair laughing. Poor woman was sick to her stomach. In the end she just said 'You people are weird' and went for a lie down:D 0 -
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I've no reasoning behind it except I wanted to see if I could do it.........maybe your mam is right:)Cupcake_Crisis wrote: »It sounds very cool, best of luck with it PBF. It's never something i'd do myself, but find the process, and the reasoning behind it really fascinating. Be sure to let us know how you're getting on.
I remember i was watching something about suspension a while back, looked over at my mam to see her reaction, and nearly fell off the chair laughing. Poor woman was sick to her stomach. In the end she just said 'You people are weird' and went for a lie down:D0 -
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RhoDoDenDron wrote: »No, Ireland is further behind the rest of the world in terms of this kind of thing. My friend who's a suspension artist says he gets barely any requests here. His crew went over to London recently and were completely booked out for two days, charging a lot more than they do here in Ireland. A lower percentage of people are interested in mods in general, and even less in the heavier aspects of the mod world like suspension.
I've not got anything against this country but I can call a spade a spade. Something we don't have, even in Dublin, is a lot of diversity.
Well of coarse your going to get more demand in a place like London when you consider the population of London alone is nearly three times that of the whole of Ireland, simple really.
It doesn't mean its not a niche market in London and the majority wouldn't be weirded out by it.0 -
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Let's take population size out of the equation and just talk about ratio
The UK has a more diverse population than Ireland, which leads to a more positive attitude towards body mods from "regular folk" due to higher exposure to them. Bit like how I get less stares in Dublin than in, say, Monaghan.
However, if you say that 5% of people in the UK are into suspension, we're looking at a lower percentage over here in Ireland. Quite simply, less of our population has been exposed to such things, so it would be a lot more shocking to a random person off the street.
It's not that it's not still niche, it's just that it's a more well-know niche in other countries. Ireland is very slow-moving in changing its stance on piercings in general, leaving suspension aside. 0 -
RhoDoDenDron wrote: »Let's take population size out of the equation and just talk about ratio
The UK has a more diverse population than Ireland, which leads to a more positive attitude towards body mods from "regular folk" due to higher exposure to them. Bit like how I get less stares in Dublin than in, say, Monaghan.
However, if you say that 5% of people in the UK are into suspension, we're looking at a lower percentage over here in Ireland. Quite simply, less of our population has been exposed to such things, so it would be a lot more shocking to a random person off the street.
It's not that it's not still niche, it's just that it's a more well-know niche in other countries. Ireland is very slow-moving in changing its stance on piercings in general, leaving suspension aside.
But why does the UK have a more diversive population due to its size and population in the first place.
Im sure it be the same reactions to piercings to say from London to I don't know rural areas in England. I don't think Ireland is alone in this and to label this is Ireland syndrome is wrong. People the world over are accepting and judgmental of tattoo's piercings and body mod's regardless of were you go people will be people, If your in any way different form the crowd people will judge rightly or wrongly, and the more niche you go the more you offend some peoples sensibilities.
Anyway let keep it on topic before we drag this to far of coarse
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Keep us up to date paulboothfan
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I would say it'd be nowhere near 5% in the UK either to be perfectly honest, the ratio would possibly be a little higher than here, but not by much. As Marty said, if you have a bigger population pool to draw from, then you are more likely to have success when running more niche events than when you're trying to do something similar with a vastly lower population! The population of London alone is around 8.17 million people, vs the 1.27 million for Dublin.
I really do think that while there will be lulls in the conversation here, if you keep it updated, people will keep checking it and posting here.
You said yourself that you were struggling to find other threads on the topic. That would continue to be the case unless this thread was created!
I know I'm interested in seeing more and hearing how you get on with it, though I'd also never go for it myself!0 -
DamoElDiablo wrote: »I would say it'd be nowhere near 5% in the UK either to be perfectly honest, the ratio would possibly be a little higher than here, but not by much. As Marty said, if you have a bigger population pool to draw from, then you are more likely to have success when running more niche events than when you're trying to do something similar with a vastly lower population! The population of London alone is around 8.17 million people, vs the 1.27 million for Dublin.
No, I don't think it'd be 5% either, I just created that for argument's sake. Should've been clearer
I don't want to drag this off topic, but the UK is more tolerant of piercings. Even my friend who recently lived over in the UK for a few years, has nose, eyebrow and lip pierced, said she immediately noticed that she got a lot more stares and dirty looks once she came back to Ireland. You've only to watch tv and look at the likes of the US to see that over there body modification isn't an "alternative" sub-culture, it's just another large, recognised group of people. Yes, the higher population is what causes diversity, but that still means that Ireland is less accepting. Maybe there's exponential growth, but Ireland is still is the low end of the range.0 -
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Grainne Seoige does ring a bell alright, that it may have been.
Like I said, memory is a bit foggy on it so I may have remembered details incorrectly. I do remember it being a sh!te depiction on body mods to a certain extent mind you
Edit, that's the one Must remind myself on it. 0 -
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Yes and no. A lot of people will have their first suspension behind closed doors so to speak. Mine will be private as well. I'm going to be nervous enough as it is without strangers gathering around to look at the freak:D Maybe 1 or 2 friends(my dad has shown a morbid curiosity as well) will come in. From what I've read your emotions can be all over the place, I read about a giant of a man breaking down in tears of euphoria simply because of what he achieved. So the first one will be personal.Would I be right in saying that you'd have to be invited to a suspension event?
Would love to read more as you go through with this PBF. What's the next step? Do you try 4 hooks the next time, or just 2 hooks in the lower back on their own? How much preparation do you have to do before getting attached to the rig? Is the rig just a pulley and lever system? Do the piercings damage the tattoo on your back, would it need to be touched up?
However, I know that the Twisted Pepper bar on Abbey Street do suspension nights every few months where anyone can watch. I definitely want to attend one as well just to get a better sense of the occasion and theater they create. Your best bet is to look for "pmpsuspension" on Facebook. They'll advertise it all there and they have some great photos etc
I'm still not sure about the next step. I might get 2 in the same place again but try push myself further or I might get all 4 across the shoulder blades to see how different that feels.
Yeah the rig is basically just a pulley system. Pulleys help lessen the effort needed to lift you and provide a great deal of control in raising the weight smoothly. There's a lot of preperation involved with the rig. They guys need to check all the attachment points, all the ropes, all the carabiners etc. They need to get your hook location sorted to minimise stress. They really have to do an amazing amount of work. I simply turn up in good health and that's it.
The marks left behind from the hooks are tiny dots, I'll try get a pic while they're still fresh to show ya. Unless you look for them, you wouldn't even notice so a touch up(keep those thoughts clean) is a personal choice.
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There are many different reasons to do it. Have you heard of a film A Man Called Horse? It's one of the most well-know suspensions. It was used as a Native-American initial ritual. Once the hooks go in and you're up off the ground, your body releases crazy endorphins, and that's basically why people do it. These endorphins can have any numbers of effect, they can cause you to laugh or cry with elation.
The hooks go different depths depending on where on the body, but I couldn't tell you exactly where. Depending on the type of suspension and the weight of the person, different amounts of hooks and different thicknesses will be used. There's a chance they can rip, but this only happens when the suspension practitioner doesn't know what they're doing. As PBF has said ,the rig is quite complex and every part is double-checked and completely sterile.
As for how people figured it out? Well, I don't think anyone alive can answer that with anything other than speculation 0 -
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