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City hotels suffering from rise in bedroom boozers

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    #122
    southsiderosie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    Frynge wrote: »

    Someone mentioned a hotel just having housekeepers and front office staff I.e. no food and beverage staff. Unfortunately hotel is a protected term. And to let people stay in an establishment you need an annually renewed licence from an organisation called TAMS which has some pretty strict basic requirments. Food being one of them.

    I am as always open to correction on these points.

    The place with no food was in Puerto Rico, not Ireland, and I think it would be considered a vacation rental.

    Come to think of it, when I first moved to Dublin I stayed in one of these just off of St. Augustine. It seemed like the same set-up: a building built to be condos, but converted to vacation apartments.


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    #123
    token101
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    If they don't want the business, it's their right to refuse. Just stay in a hostel. Don't know why anyone would ever stay in a hotel if you're under 35 and have no kids. Private room in a hostel is half the price, twice the craic and most decent places are at hotel standard anyway.


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    #124
    Lou.m
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    Wow Irish people ( and i am Irish) are turning into a sad nation of alchos.....using hotel rooms for getting drunk instead of what they are intended for ..durty sex.....

    Seriously this generation under 30 has the highest rate of liver cancer in Ireland for generations


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    #125
    crusher000
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    Lou.m wrote: »
    Wow Irish people ( and i am Irish) are turning into a sad nation of alchos.....using hotel rooms for getting drunk instead of what they are intended for ..durty sex.....

    Seriously this generation under 30 has the highest rate of liver cancer in Ireland for generations

    Because anti drink lobbyists believed the pub was the root of all evils. So take it out of the pub and bring it into the home. Irish people are getting more used of the change in life style where most of the socialising and drinking is done in the homes.

    If people choose to drink in hotel rooms when they go away so be it, but for most of us it's not to get gee eyed but one or two before you head down to the bar.


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    #126
    meoklmrk91
    Registered Users Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    I was at a wedding last year and while we were all sitting down, having dinner the hotel staff searched the rooms and the bags of the guests for drink and confiscated it. I wasn't staying in the hotel, but if I had been I would have personally lost the plot over this, someone rooting through my bags, invading privacy. There was no warning given that this would happen given to the bride and groom either.

    It was a great day and everything else was really top notch, but I would have no interest in ever going back there again, left a bad taste in my mouth.


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    #127
    JustAThought
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    meoklmrk91 wrote: »
    I was at a wedding last year and while we were all sitting down, having dinner the hotel staff searched the rooms and the bags of the guests for drink and confiscated it. I wasn't staying in the hotel, but if I had been I would have personally lost the plot over this, someone rooting through my bags, invading privacy. There was no warning given that this would happen given to the bride and groom either.

    It was a great day and everything else was really top notch, but I would have no interest in ever going back there again, left a bad taste in my mouth.


    That's really Really shocking.
    Where & What was the hotel ?


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    #128
    meoklmrk91
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    JustAThought wrote: »
    That's really Really shocking.
    Where & What was the hotel ?

    I'll name and shame if I'm allowed, Mods?


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    #129
    crusher000
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    That's dis graceful. Please say it was in North Korea and not here in Ireland.


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    #130
    the keen edge
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    bbm1 wrote: »
    or because people are stingy.. I know their is a lot of expense with weddings but its one day and if you cant afford to drink then dont drink
    Absolute bullsh!t.
    There isn't a minimum price (below which alcohol can be bought) that people must pay otherwise someone with your philosophy decides that they shouldn't be allowed drink.
    meoklmrk91 wrote: »
    I was at a wedding last year and while we were all sitting down, having dinner the hotel staff searched the rooms and the bags of the guests for drink and confiscated it. I wasn't staying in the hotel, but if I had been I would have personally lost the plot over this, someone rooting through my bags, invading privacy. There was no warning given that this would happen given to the bride and groom either.

    It was a great day and everything else was really top notch, but I would have no interest in ever going back there again, left a bad taste in my mouth.

    Hotel staff searching guests bags? Are you serious?


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    #131
    meoklmrk91
    Registered Users Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    Guys, I am deadly serious about the hotel searching bags and yes it was here in Ireland.


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    #132
    rubadub
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    Frynge wrote: »
    With regard to smoking in rooms, the smoking ban had an exemption in relation to hotels where up to 20% of rooms could be smoking rooms.
    Where did you hear this? I can't see it in the laws on irishstatutebook, I would have thought they could all be smoking if they wished..

    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/employment/employment_rights_and_conditions/health_and_safety/ban_on_smoking_in_the_workplace_in_ireland.html


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    #133
    ibarelycare
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    People bringing cans to a wedding and hiding them under the table is so knackery...


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    #134
    Real Life
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    ibarelycare wrote: »
    People bringing cans to a wedding and hiding them under the table is so knackery...

    yes but not as knackery as hotel staff searching bags in peoples rooms


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    #135
    TheUsual
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    Name and Shame Joe !!!!!


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    #136
    ScumLord
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    meoklmrk91 wrote: »
    I was at a wedding last year and while we were all sitting down, having dinner the hotel staff searched the rooms and the bags of the guests for drink and confiscated it.
    Pretty sure that's illegal and everyone at the wedding could sue the hotel.


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    #137
    Pinewoo
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    meoklmrk91 wrote: »
    I'll name and shame if I'm allowed, Mods?

    Yes it's ok to name them if it actually happened, if you're making it all up then you might be in for some trouble...


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    #138
    Frynge
    Registered Users Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭Frynge


    rubadub wrote: »
    Where did you hear this? I can't see it in the laws on irishstatutebook, I would have thought they could all be smoking if they wished..

    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/employment/employment_rights_and_conditions/health_and_safety/ban_on_smoking_in_the_workplace_in_ireland.html

    It might have just been guidelines from the IHF, as I said the room is you're residence for the night so it would stand to reason that the government can't dictate what you can and can't do in it.


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    #139
    Frynge
    Registered Users Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭Frynge


    meoklmrk91 wrote: »
    I was at a wedding last year and while we were all sitting down, having dinner the hotel staff searched the rooms and the bags of the guests for drink and confiscated it. I wasn't staying in the hotel, but if I had been I would have personally lost the plot over this, someone rooting through my bags, invading privacy. There was no warning given that this would happen given to the bride and groom either.

    It was a great day and everything else was really top notch, but I would have no interest in ever going back there again, left a bad taste in my mouth.

    I'm calling buls8it on this. From a purely logistical point of view that statement is patently absurd.


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    #140
    meoklmrk91
    Registered Users Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    Frynge wrote: »
    I'm calling buls8it on this. From a purely logistical point of view that statement is patently absurd.

    Well by all means do, it happened, I was there, that's all I can say, I will name and shame but only if a mod gives me the go ahead, in fairness I have over 2000 posts, I am not some newb troll.

    It didn't happen to me personally as I was not staying at the hotel, but it did happen, the guests who were staying were going mad, especially one guy who worked in security, they gave them their drink back when they were checking out the day after.


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    #141
    Frynge
    Registered Users Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭Frynge


    Would you pm me the name of the hotel then?

    Thanks in advance.;)


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    #142
    TheUsual
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    meoklmrk91 wrote: »
    I will name and shame but only if a mod gives me the go ahead, in fairness I have over 2000 posts, I am not some newb troll.

    You're right, I wouldn't name them.

    If you ever stay there again for work or whatever reasons, then they will get you back with the cream of mushroom soup.
    (Food terrorism)


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    #143
    xpletiv
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    Thats appalling. No problem legally if you know that it is fact (and therefore not discrimination). Though I would have thought we would have heard about smoething like that in the news. No way Id keep quiet about that.

    Myself and other half always bring drink; because its too dear. Sorry, I pay enough for somehwere that is legally my residence for the duration of my stay, and by god im going to treat it like my home. This is just greed on the publicans parts tbh; I watch my money carefully and so should in this economy.


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    #144
    meoklmrk91
    Registered Users Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    Frynge wrote: »
    Would you pm me the name of the hotel then?

    Thanks in advance.;)

    Just tried to send it there and got a message saying that Frynge has chosen not to receive private messages, change your settings and ill fire it off then.


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    #145
    meoklmrk91
    Registered Users Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    xpletiv wrote: »
    Thats appalling. No problem legally if you know that it is fact (and therefore not discrimination). Though I would have thought we would have heard about smoething like that in the news. No way Id keep quiet about that.

    Myself and other half always bring drink; because its too dear. Sorry, I pay enough for somehwere that is legally my residence for the duration of my stay, and by god im going to treat it like my home. This is just greed on the publicans parts tbh; I watch my money carefully and so should in this economy.

    I didn't stay in the hotel so I couldn't say or do anything but I had I been I would have been off to my solicitor on Minday morning.


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    #146
    Frynge
    Registered Users Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭Frynge


    meoklmrk91 wrote: »
    Just tried to send it there and got a message saying that Frynge has chosen not to receive private messages, change your settings and ill fire it off then.

    Think I have that changed now.


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    #147
    meoklmrk91
    Registered Users Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    Frynge wrote: »
    Think I have that changed now.

    PM sent :)


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    #148
    King of the soaps.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3 ✭King of the soaps.


    I think the whole thing is ridiculous. When I was younger people tried to show they could hold their drink. Nobody drank before going out as it could result in getting drunk before others in the group thus showing an inability to hold ones drink, which was the mark of a man. Only little boys and outright alcoholics got drunk. The vast majority of people drank publicly, at a bar or table in a pub or hotel and nowhere else.
    It is about time some maturity returned to drinking.


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    #149
    Wompa1
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    King of the soaps. wrote: »
    I think the whole thing is ridiculous. When I was younger people tried to show they could hold their drink. Nobody drank before going out as it could result in getting drunk before others in the group thus showing an inability to hold ones drink, which was the mark of a man. Only little boys and outright alcoholics got drunk. The vast majority of people drank publicly, at a bar or table in a pub or hotel and nowhere else.
    It is about time some maturity returned to drinking.

    That attitude is also pretty immature. Being able to drink is not a sign of masculinity or maturity...


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    #150
    King of the soaps.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3 ✭King of the soaps.


    Wompa1 wrote: »
    That attitude is also pretty immature. Being able to drink is not a sign of masculinity or maturity...

    Drinking but avoiding losing complete control is a lot more mature than drinking to get completely drunk and incapable.


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    #151
    Wompa1
    Registered Users Posts: 8,165 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    King of the soaps. wrote: »
    Drinking but avoiding losing complete control is a lot more mature than drinking to get completely drunk and incapable.

    But for the reason of proving your masculinity? That's pretty immature and that's still a mindset in a lot of guys in Ireland. My dad applies that same logic, tthe catch is, he still gets drunk but he says he's not as drunk as young people get and also sure he doesn't hurt anyone...he doesn't but if you get drunk then at least be honest with yourself rather than tell yourself you are well able for it and can handle your drink.


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