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Boston Marathon suspect arrested. *Mod Warning in OP*

  • 20-04-2013 03:54AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭


    Following on from the Boston Marathon bombing thread here and the police/FBI chase that ensued from that, also covered in that thread, one suspect has been arrested and is in police custody.

    Marathon Bombing suspect arrested in Watertown

    Recap: Boston Marathon manhunt ends as Police capture Suspect

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭7ofBrian


    I hope this fcuker rots in prison for the rest of his life. Death is too good for him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    the kill has been buzzed now :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Mr Whirly


    So, what was in the safe?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    It'll be very interesting if he's articulate and cites US foreign policy as one of his reasons for carrying out the attack.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭TheUsual


    Ah didn't see any of those pictures, nice one.

    The people that suffered at the bombing deserve respect and dignity.
    Graphic photos of them are nasty and more than a bit messed up in the head.

    Turns out the guy who lost his legs in the Boston bombing has no health insurance - here is the webpage to donate for his medical bills :

    http://www.gofundme.com/BucksforBauman


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    TheUsual wrote: »
    Turns out the guy who lost his legs in the Boston bombing has no health insurance webpage donate for his bills

    I thought emergency care was free at point of access, no?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭[-0-]


    As said in the other thread, I'm going in to see if there's any craic about the place. Going to check out the town where he was arrested and go to a few bars in close proximity as well.

    11pm here, the bars are open until around 2am. Will report back when I'm done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭TheUsual


    I thought emergency care was free at point of access, no?

    Yeah but he will need cash for life. Car, job, physio etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    How about a boards.ie fund for the injured?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭Rascasse


    I knew when I went to bed he'd be found. Didn't get too far either.

    Probably best the guy doesn't make it. Not much point surviving only to spend 5 or 10 years in a supermax before being executed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,402 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    I was sure he'd kill himself or the police would be forced to kill him. They did a good job in bringing him in alive.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭jank


    It'll be very interesting if he's articulate and cites US foreign policy as one of his reasons for carrying out the attack.

    Why? So some people can feel this bombing is justified?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,697 ✭✭✭elefant


    I did pretty much zero work yesterday reading the jumbo-thread from 7 in the morning- it was better than any police scanner!

    Nice to wake up to read he's been taken alive. Quite the riveting story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭Sugar Free


    Rascasse wrote: »
    I knew when I went to bed he'd be found. Didn't get too far either.

    Probably best the guy doesn't make it. Not much point surviving only to spend 5 or 10 years in a supermax before being executed.

    Someone else mentioned that the state of Massachusetts doesn't have the death penalty, so presumably life without parole is more likely?
    That said, if someone with better legal knowledge than I (which is to say, better than none) can clarify, that would be useful.

    Additionally, perhaps there's something in US Law to do with acts of terrorism etc. that could over ride this and give the death penalty.
    Not that I'm personally baying for it but I imagine there will be considerable political will to execute him if it is legally feasible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Killer Wench


    I thought emergency care was free at point of access, no?

    To stabilize but all of the hospital bill, the new limbs, therapy, etc. will be on him.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭jank


    Sugar Free wrote: »
    Someone else mentioned that the state of Massachusetts doesn't have the death penalty, so presumably life without parole is more likely?
    That said, if someone with better legal knowledge than I (which is to say, better than none) can clarify, that would be useful.

    Additionally, perhaps there's something in US Law to do with acts of terrorism etc. that could over ride this and give the death penalty.
    Not that I'm personally baying for it but I imagine there will be considerable political will to execute him if it is legally feasible.

    I would imagine this would be tried in a federal court and pretty sure they have the death penalty for very serious crimes like treason and terrorism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭Sugar Free


    jank wrote: »
    I would imagine this would be tried in a federal court and pretty sure they have the death penalty for very serious crimes like treason and terrorism.

    Yeah I was thinking as much as well as catching up on the other mega-thread where several people mentioned it too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,420 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    It's saying on the news that he is in a serious condition in hospital.

    Not sure if his injuries are life threatening though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,083 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    jank wrote: »
    Why? So some people can feel this bombing is justified?

    No because there are people like Bill O Reilly who say that "people still hate us for no reason", I'm sorry but those are some serious rosé tinted glasses.

    Let me be clear, I am not saying that any of their actions are justifiable in any way, shape or form. It disgusts me that innocent people had to die for their cause, whatever it was, that people will be living with the injuries both physically and mentally for the rest of their lives.

    But if it does turn out to be foreign policyrelated and that is a big but, I think that it is something that should not be taken lightly, this a desperately fraught issue so I will try and tread lightly given the situation here.

    For jihadists, the west, and in particular America is their sworn enemy. And while a lot of it can be chalked down to lies, misinformation etc. there is a grain of truth there, America has a history of ravaging countries. Many in the west believe that the Iraq war was an illegal one, rightly or wrongly, the anger over it was palpable, now can you imagine being a middle easterner, seeing the last 10 years, Abu ghraib, the wikileaks links on top all the stuff they have to live with anyway. Afghanistan has been left in tatters.

    Let me be clear, I am not excusing or condoning what they did. I am not Anti-American, not in the least. However I am critical of some of their foreign policy and I think that they have a serious issue with calling that into question for a variety for reasons, I find it a little disgusting when people like Bill O Reilly, and he is far from alone, say such things so flippantly.

    I hope that was some bit cohesive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    It'll be very interesting if he's articulate and cites US foreign policy as one of his reasons for carrying out the attack.
    It will be interesting to see if he lives to tell the tale. I know his condition is currently only classed as "serious" but by all accounts he was shot in the initial shootout then had roughly 18 hours on the run with no medical attention.

    I'm no medical expert but doesn't sound great. Hope he pulls through for the reasons you mentioned.
    Rascasse wrote: »
    I knew when I went to bed he'd be found. Didn't get too far either.

    Probably best the guy doesn't make it. Not much point surviving only to spend 5 or 10 years in a supermax before being executed.

    This is the most baffling bit of the pursuit. They locked-down an area after the first shoot-out. Yet the house he was discovered at was not searched at all at any point. If the neighbour hadn't have spotted the blood on the boat, then chances are he would have at least gone the night without being caught.

    More baffling because, to quote a CNN analyst, "a fit 19 year old could run the distance from the initial shootout to where he was found in around 10 minutes".

    So he had only managed to go, what, 2km tops from the incident? On foot after being shot. It matters a lot because if he bled to death, for example, it would be police error in not finding him sooner given how close he was to the scene. Their error could have allowed him to escape (unlikely) or kill again (more likely).

    The cops and Boston people are receiving a lot of praise over this man-hunt, rightly so to an extent, but this was surely a mistake. On every available bit of information, and logic, the guy simply could not have gone very far. Yet for large chunks of the day they were scouring the whole city for him.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,420 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Seems kind of strange that none of their family members had any idea what was going on with them, I don't really mean about the bombing but more in relation to their views on America etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    jank wrote: »
    Why? So some people can feel this bombing is justified?

    Yes. I want people to feel that killing innocent civilians is justified.

    GTFO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,002 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    7ofBrian wrote: »
    I hope this fcuker rots in prison for the rest of his life. Death is too good for him.

    No that would be more like "Revenge",which for many people is a no-no.

    Given that this young man will,doubtlessly, have some mad religiously manic justification for his actions,some form of rehabilitative element is therefore desirable.

    Life,with No parole (America understands that no remission thing),locked in a small cell,whose walls,ceiling and floor are covered in high resolution images of young Martin Richard.

    Let this guy grow old with that boys image forever staying young alongside him .....30,40,50,60 years with your every waking moment taken up with the reality of your evil...such an opportunity for reflection and repentance would surely be appropriate and catered for in every liberal handbook ?


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭token101


    It'll be very interesting if he's articulate and cites US foreign policy as one of his reasons for carrying out the attack.

    Interesting for Fox News so they can start firing up the old fear machine and telling people this is why they need guns. How long before the NRA starts featuring Beslan in their adverts?

    I don't think it would give him a shred of credibility. Seeing as how Massachusetts has no death penalty, I'd be far more interested in seeing how they are going to try and wrangle something where they can charge him federally or something because they're going to want to kill him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭crybaby


    It'll be very interesting if he's articulate and cites US foreign policy as one of his reasons for carrying out the attack.

    Why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭Rascasse


    token101 wrote: »
    I'd be far more interested in seeing how they are going to try and wrangle something where they can charge him federally or something because they're going to want to kill him.

    There will be no wrangle, the FBI asserted jurisdiction on the day of the bombings and his crimes are all federal crimes. Minimum sentence is life without parole, maximum is death. I think we all know what it'll be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭token101


    Rascasse wrote: »
    There will be no wrangle, the FBI asserted jurisdiction on the day of the bombings and his crimes are all federal crimes. Minimum sentence is life without parole, maximum is death. I think we all know what it'll be.

    Wouldn't be certain, lots of domestic bombers haven't been put on death row. The Olympic bomber, the guy who did the WTC the first time and the Unabomber are all still alive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭Faolchu


    Sugar Free wrote: »

    Additionally, perhaps there's something in US Law to do with acts of terrorism etc. that could over ride this and give the death penalty.

    Pretty sure an act of terrorism is considered a federal offence so federal law applies and federal law does have the death penalty. At least that what I heard said on cnn a few days ago


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 13,425 ✭✭✭✭Ginny


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    It should be a federal case, afaik the state McVeigh attacked hadn't got the death penalty but it was tried as a federal case I'm wrong, could have sworn that was the case, has there been any other attacks that resulted in the death penalty in a state that has no death penalty?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭jank


    Yes. I want people to feel that killing innocent civilians is justified.

    GTFO.

    So why mention foreign policy?


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