Brand Snobbery...

H3llR4iser

Since we have the "brand loyalty" thread, I'd say this would fit in well

What brand(s) cars you'd never drive? What we're looking for here is totally IRRATIONAL snobbery, silly stuff that is likely preventing you from considering very good cars when buying one. Sensible considerations such as value, refinement and reliability are strictly forbidden; Things like "looks like an ironing board" or "reminds me of an horrible job I had as a teenager" are what we're looking for

I'll start -with the exception of a Mazda 6 an perhaps an Honda Accord, I'd never buy a Japanese car. The "normal" ones remind me of kitchen appliances, the sporty models...look like the toy cars from that "Mini 4WD" cartoon years ago

Celly Smunt

Citroen.Horrible pieces of shite.

MuppetCheck

Personally it doesn't matter what the badge says so long as the I believed the model I chose was decent and did what I wanted of it although I wouldn't put my own money into certain makes new unless the car was something special.

Celly Smunt

OSI wrote: »

Anything Dacia. Anything Indian or Chinese. Anything Toyota.

If the build quality on some of those new chinese cars is competitive with our market,if they ever come over here i'd jump on one.

dh0011

wouldnt buy anything unreliable ie nothing italian or french

Anan1

Although I like to flatter myself that the opinions of others don't affect me, I think i'd have real trouble being seen getting out of a newer Ferrari. Great cars i'm sure, but what a trashy image.

Celly Smunt

dh0011 wrote: »

wouldnt buy anything unreliable ie nothing italian or french

More for me so

dh0011

your welcome to them pmcmahon
I wouldnt drive a dacia either. Couldnt see myself buying anything that wasnt a volvo or Japanese

H3llR4iser

dh0011 wrote: »

wouldnt buy anything unreliable ie nothing italian or french

BBUUUUZZZ! You're being rational! Rationality is not permitted in this thread

dh0011

if i am not allowed be rational i would have an alfa - just dont like being on the hard shoulder

V Eight

Though I'd never be seen dead driving a Skoda - but now I have a Skoda Yeti and I love it!:rolleyes: - never want to be a Toyota owner! never.

phoenix0250

Anything French, both peugeot and citroen have far too many needless electonics and sensors that always break, and due to one tiny sensor your abs is shut off

dh0011

i am a toyota owner - it never breaks

Celly Smunt

dh0011 wrote: »

i am a toyota owner - it never breaks

Just blends into the bleak irish backdrop is all.

dh0011

its not exciting but it does the job. my last car was becoming a bottomless pit for money and was broken again so it was time to change. I wanted a volvo s40 or mondeo. Needed to change in hurry so ended up with the avensis. I would still prefer the other two but the avensis is alright

Mickiemcfist

I'd never buy a normal audi, ie: non S/RS versions as I just see a vw Bora/passat

*I will never afford an S/RS so will prob never have an Audi

Neilw

I think I'd end my life if I had to drive an avensis.

dh0011

they arent bad good mpg and never breaks and comfortable
also all those taxi drivers who spend half their lives in their car tend to go for them

fobster

Renault Megane Scenic

Neilw

dh0011 wrote: »

they arent bad good mpg and never breaks and comfortable
also all those taxi drivers who spend half their lives in their car tend to go for them

Comfort, reliability and good mpg are not high on my list of priorities when buying a car. Life if too short to drive something as boring as an avensis.

bazz26

Lots of Clarkson sounding cliches in this thread.

listermint

bazz26 wrote: »

Lots of Clarkson sounding cliches in this thread.

Or just opinions. But sure lets put everyone in the clarkson boat. God forbid anyone has an opinion....

wandatowell

Look at me in my motor car!!!


My car is the make, model and spec I could afford.


Brand snobbery is idiotic.





Id never drive a Fiat though

Slattsy

I'd rather walk than drive a Ford Focus.

Its the one car out there i really hate.

Caliden

Would never drive a Skoda and wouldn't go near a VRS with a 50 foot pole.

Red Kev

From having owned a lot of older Mercs and being a big fan of them in the past I don't think I could buy that they have on the market today. Styling is awful IMO, too complicated electronics leading to failures and high maintenance.

I've had a number of E28's which i regard as being one of the most underrated cars of all time but the kind of people who drive them today would turn me off ever owning a newer one.

Toyota Corolla goes into that camp too, though the Auris I would have. Corolla seems to be driven by people who i just don't like.

Qashqai and Juke belong there too.

pmcmahon wrote: »

Citroen.Horrible pieces of shite.

I rented a C6 for 2 weeks, fabulous car, more comfortable then the equivalent Beemer, Merc, Audi etc.

Valetta

BMW.

Because I drive a Merc :pac:

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

bmw / Mercedes : drug dealers toys,

french, Italian cars: unreliable.


Toyota : bland and too common.

skoda, vw + audi : same cars different badges.

opel: muck altogether


ford, too plain and very common



better stop before I run out of cars .....

Codpeas

Mickiemcfist wrote: »

I'd never buy a normal audi, ie: non S/RS versions as I just see a vw Bora/passat

*I will never afford an S/RS so will prob never have an Audi

I set my sights snobbery a little lower - wouldn't buy an Audi that didn't have the S-Line extras.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

No to Toyota, BMW, Audi, and anything French or Italian.

Some nice cars in them, but all ten a penny on Irish roads.

tossy

Mickiemcfist wrote: »

I'd never buy a normal audi, ie: non S/RS versions as I just see a vw Bora/passat

*I will never afford an S/RS so will prob never have an Audi

I agree 100% Why have a Booooooora when you can drive an Audi.

dgt

Anything Korean. Soul-less, miserable, horrible looking stuff to me.

The Japs produce some fairly epic cars so naturally the Irish mainly go out of their way to find the dullest, blandest examples of Jap stuff they can find and ram it up in everyone elses face :rolleyes:

No unreliable stuff for me so French and Italians are out..... :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

mikewest

Not so much a brand as an individual car. Toyota corolla, I have a totally irrational hatred of them despite having driven rentals of them and found them to be solid reliable economical enough but boring car. I've even owned a rearwheel drive version in the distant past but nowadays I'd drive anything else in preference even a shaggin Opel Corsa or Nissan Micra.

JCDUB

Anything Ford, particularly Mondeos and Focuses though.

Couldn't drive one because they're so dull I think their drivers have to lack a soul, or any enjoyment in their lives, whatsoever.

ABajaninCork

No to:
Citroen
Renault
Fiat
KIA
Dacia

Used to be 'No' to Hyundai too. But have driven an i30, and they're not too bad. Wouldn't buy one though...:P

shedweller

JCDUB wrote: »

Anything Ford, particularly Mondeos and Focuses though.

Couldn't drive one because they're so dull I think their drivers have to lack a soul, or any enjoyment in their lives, whatsoever.

Could be 'sweeping generalisation of the year' material!
While not a very exciting car i would say the owners range from those who simply dont give a feck to those who simply dont give a feck!

I personally will never ever drive a renault or peugeot again! Small breakdowns come with a whole load of different pain when you have kids! I'll gladly take boring toyotas for now. I simply cannot afford random breakdowns, either hassle wise or financially!

bazz26

listermint wrote: »

Or just opinions. But sure lets put everyone in the clarkson boat. God forbid anyone has an opinion....

Opinion though should have some relevance to personal experience rather than just repeating sweeping generalisations heard down the pub. For example, of those here who said they wouldn't touch a French or Italian car, how many of these actually ever owned either as opposed to basing their opinion on what they were told by a brother's friend's father.

ABajaninCork

I had a Peugeot 206. Fantastic car, which only gave me trouble after I brought it over here! The state of Irish roads leave a LOT to be desired...

I sold the car in the end. The cost of parts here is stupidly expensive. That is the only reason why I didn't get another Peugeot.

dh0011

ABajaninCork wrote: »

I had a Peugeot 206. Fantastic car, which only gave me trouble after I brought it over here! The state of Irish roads leave a LOT to be desired...

I sold the car in the end. The cost of parts here is stupidly expensive. That is the only reason why I didn't get another Peugeot.

The cost of your car breaking being too expensive is a fairly big black mark against the car. I know a few people with non french cars with over 250K on the clock and they are going strong. Maybe you buying a french car instead of something solid and not the roads are to blame.

ABajaninCork

dh0011 wrote: »

The cost of your car breaking being too expensive is a fairly big black mark against the car. I know a few people with non french cars with over 250K on the clock and they are going strong. Maybe you buying a french car instead of something solid and not the roads are to blame.

No, I don't think so. A fact confirmed by the mechanic...

dh0011

Strange that Japanese and German car drivers dont seem to complain about the roads breaking their cars

toastedpickles

dgt wrote: »

No unreliable stuff for me so French and Italians are out..... :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

Oh lord the irony :P

But I agree, Had a 306 before and the dashboard decided it was gona catch fire while i was driving home one night

Drove a toyota the other day and hated every minute of it, so anything french or jap is out of the question for me

Or vw's...hate vw's

ratracer

I'd never buy a mini or a fiat 500, only coz I'm a man. If yorkies are not for girls, these cars are not for men!!!

Seweryn

I do not mind the bland, boring, but functional cars. I wouldn't buy (and wouldn't like to be seen in) a pointless car, like:

- Any X-series BMW (what's the point of these useless yokes?),
- Nissan Qukashkay or whatever the name,
- Nissan Juke,
- Etc...

Big Nasty

dgt wrote: »

Anything Korean. Soul-less, miserable, horrible looking stuff

You kidding me? I wouldn't have given a second glance to anything Asian the last ten tears or so but recently I've been doing double takes at fine looking cars only to see they or Kia / Hyundai. Would seriously considering buying one in the future.

JCDUB wrote: »

Anything Ford, particularly Mondeos and Focuses though.

Couldn't drive one because they're so dull I think their drivers have to lack a soul, or any enjoyment in their lives, whatsoever.

If you said Toyota I would agree but I think Fords are pretty good looking cars and nice enough places to be. The Focus hatch is definitely a decent looking car, the Mondeo ain't bad, heck, even the new Fiesta is half-decent.

I need to buy a new daily soon enough and after driving my fathers Mondeo to Mayo and back recently I was really surprised at how nice it was to drive and it has really good road holding. The only thing stopping me is they're not quite good enough looking for me.

dgt

MCMLXXV wrote: »

You kidding me? I wouldn't have given a second glance to anything Asian the last ten tears or so but recently I've been doing double takes at fine looking cars only to see they or Kia / Hyundai. Would seriously considering buying one in the future.

Nope. Can't stand them. Just my opinion though, what I see both inside and out doesn't do it for me.

Good, bad, indifferent. Not warming to them.

I'd sooner walk tbh!

Cash is king

A lot of badge snobs here. I dont really care what I drive but it must be comfy, lots of toys, reliable and economical.

I have to agree with Anan1 though I wouldn't drive a Ferrari or something silly like that.

keithsfleet

I swore blind I'd never drive anything Asian that's not Japanese.
Was looking at a hyundai accent for a friend last week and after test driving it I had to ask the seller to scrub me down with some Castrol.
It got awkward but I'm pretty certain it helped with the haggling.

Cheensbo

I'd never say never when it comes to cars, excepting maybe a tata or something of that ilk. Each manufacturer has its strengths and weaknesses imo.. Also heavily depends on why you are buying a car, and what for...

I like to buy cars that dont make sense, and arent fit for purpose, but dont always have the freedom to do so, next motor will be a silly one though




I'm astounded at the extent of the anti-toyotaism

It seems that most of ye think they only make aurises and avensises (avensii??)

Let me post some of my favourites to try and diminish the opinion that all toyotas are dull and bland:

http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/toyota-gt-86-by-trd_100378645_m.jpg

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/5760/dscf2173g.jpg

http://www.mr2.com/forums/attachments/show-off/13817d1292621799-MR2-what-best-looking-toyota-mr-2s-all-time-dsc008873.jpg

http://blog.xforce.com.au.tmp.anchor.net.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Toyota-Supra_tuning_mp6_pic_45616.jpg

YouTookMyName

Really want an Seat Exeo.

Chris_Heilong

I wouldnt touch German cars, far too common and normal, dont like french cars and hate most FIATs, Korean cars still have a cheap image to me even though they are looking better each year. Volvo, Sabb and a few American muscle cars are acceptable, but Japanese cars are the best IMO. Great design and good performance.