Heroes Reborn [NBC] [** Spoilers **]

Mr E

Didn't expect this at all.

Save the cheerleader, launch a new programming initiative?

MSN, which is making a big push into original programming via Xbox, is in talks to revive NBC’s superhero drama Heroes, TVLine has learned exclusively.

Details remain sketchy, but sources confirm that MSN is interested in relaunching the once red-hot NBC Universal franchise with new stories and heroes, while mixing in cameos from the original series’ cast (schedules and interest permitting). The talks are said to be in the preliminary stages.

As long as they go back to what made series 1 so good, it might stand a chance.

http://tvline.com/2013/04/17/heroes-relaunch-msn-xbox/

Richard Dower

Mr E wrote: »

Didn't expect this at all.



As long as they go back to what made series 1 so good, it might stand a chance.

http://tvline.com/2013/04/17/heroes-relaunch-msn-xbox/

- they'll need a whole new cast as most everyone already have jobs.
Dunno....season 1 was superb, the show always had great potential but squandered it, i'd welcome some closure at least.

Does anyone else think the acting was incredibly wooden even back in season 1?

Richard Dower

Deleted User wrote: »

Does anyone else think the acting was incredibly wooden even back in season 1?

Sylar was great, as was Nathan....everyone else was meh!....especially that annoying cheerleader :rolleyes:

AlmightyCushion

Hopefully they bring back Parkman for it just for the weird head twitch he did every time he used his mind control powers. I honestly think that if you held his head in one place he would be rendered useless.

Headshot

Hopefully they learn and not do time travel

Richard Dower

Headshot wrote: »

Hopefully they learn and not do time travel

Or go to Cork......;)

Antar Bolaeisk

Couldn't they bring back something decent instead. Heroes was pretty rubbish by Season 2, I didn't stick around for the rest.

Taltos

Yup - a series that started with so much promise that tanked more with each new incredulous reveal, each new season just went a bit too far down the rabbit hole - the last one with the circus well, enough said there.
When I compare it to the cancelled Alphas I know which one I would prefer to see back.

Danger781

Why all the hate!? I loved heroes..

Basq

It was the strangest first season... absolutely superb up until that lazy lazy finale, then just took a nose-dive and seems to just plummet further and further.

Think I gave up towards the end of the second season.

don ramo

Richard Dower wrote: »

Sylar was great,

which was the problem, the bad guy has to die, but its hard to kill him when hes the the strongest cast member,

Richard Dower wrote: »

Or go to Cork......;)

that was terrible, everyone was from derry and security guys at the docks had badges :o:o


season 1 as most people said was great until the end, if they want to do this right they have to come up with a proper storyline, even by episode 12 they seemed to be doing it on the fly,

it would be a great show on a cable channel, with 10-16 episodes, and not having to hit such high rating targets, and you could do it so much better,

but like i say about all these network showrunners they all want to be the cool kids and say they work for the networks and get paid a fortune, while the guys on the cable channels get paid peanuts, but in actual fact make much better shows on a shoestring budget at times,

don ramo

Headshot wrote: »

Hopefully they learn and not do time travel

well if they done it right, you could dedicate a whole season set entirely in the future or the past, say at the end of season 1 something happens when a bunch of heroes gather for the final battle, they kill the bad guy, but end up getting sent to the future or the past for a season or 2,

vitani

Richard Dower wrote: »

Sylar was great, as was Nathan....everyone else was meh!....especially that annoying cheerleader :rolleyes:

I loved Nathan. But I stopped watching the show when I kept losing track of which side he was on. He seemed to have a change of heart every second episode.

Skerries

Duggy747

The 1st season was quite entertaining but, holy shìt, I'd never seen a show dip in quality so hard and fast afterwards.

ScumLord

It was a bit of a mess but I always stuck with it thinking the concept was good enough that it's bound to throw out some good TV from time to time. I never really understood why it ended.

There is a lot of potential in the concept and with the right writers it really could be something special. Sadly I imagine that it will most likely end up looking like the upcoming Zombieland show, cheap and trashy made to capitalise on the name.

ScrubsfanChris

Its somewhat officially maybe confirmed

NBC to Revive ‘Heroes’ Franchise as Miniseries in 2015

NBC teased a plan to revive the “Heroes” franchise as an event miniseries next year during Saturday’s telecast of Olympics coverage.

The brief spot featured a fade-in on the “Heroes” logo with the word “Reborn” added along with “Coming 2015.”

There had been rumors last year that the Peacock was looking to revive the mystery-fantasy drama, created by Tim Kring, that aired from 2006-2010. Kring is set to exec produce 13 new episodes.

“The enormous impact ‘Heroes’ had on the television landscape when it first launched in 2006 was eye-opening,” said NBC Entertainment prexy Jennifer Salke. “Shows with that kind of resonance don’t come around often and we thought it was time for another installment. We’re thrilled that visionary creator Tim Kring was as excited about jumping back into this show as we were and we look forward to all the new textures and layers Tim plans to add to his original concept.

http://www.imdb.com/news/ni56839773/

Also Starring LeVar Burton

Not sure how I feel about this. It was pretty much dreadful after season 1, and I stopped watching during Season 3.
However, if they're planning a return it could be a massive improvement storyline wise, so I'm wondering if it's worth my while going back and finishing the original run...

I really hope that this means that we will see a few other shows get another shot. Would love to see Jericho get that third series that has been rumoured to be in the works for the past few years. Rewatching the show atm and once you take out the soap opera dramatics there's a great show there and it really did kick things up a gear in series 2.

Agent Coulson

First teaser for it.

Mr.Nice Guy

As others have said, rarely has a show followed up such a fantastic and promising start with such a spectacular and crappy follow-through. As a result, it's hard for me to get excited about this.

I'm not sure how they could salvage anything that followed Season 1. Good luck with that.

don ramo

it would be great to continue the show as an event series as their calling it, which to me would mean each season would be a contained standalone story, with new stories being told each season, like american horror story, constantly having new characters each season, maybe played by actors who have played different characters in previous seasons,

keeping syler alive was a major issue with me, probably the biggest, quinto was the by far the best thing in heroes and due to that they were very reluctant to off his character, and simply werent creative enough to keep him the story and keep us liking him,


the long drawn out storylines are what killed the show, i hope they understand what went wrong going forward

MJ23

Richard Dower wrote: »

Sylar was great, as was Nathan....everyone else was meh!....especially that annoying cheerleader :rolleyes:

I wouldn't care how annoying she is. She's absolutely deadly.

pixelburp

I presume the popularity of superhero films has pushed this back into the spotlight, and when you look across the history of superheroes on TV it's one of the few genuine (if brief) success stories; given how spectacularly off the boil the original run went it's hard to see how they could mess it up any more than it already was, so it seems like the only direction they can go in is up. Still though, can't say I'm jumping up and down with excitement just yet.

Props though to the original series for having one of the more awful portrayals of Ireland on American TV; man that was just ... quality.

Oafley Jones

Also Starring LeVar Burton wrote: »

Not sure how I feel about this. It was pretty much dreadful after season 1, and I stopped watching during Season 3.
However, if they're planning a return it could be a massive improvement storyline wise, so I'm wondering if it's worth my while going back and finishing the original run...

I'm still amazed by the amount of people who think season 1 was any good.

JP Liz V1

Will the original cast return seeing as some are on other shows

johnny_ultimate

This is the kind of news that makes me wish I believed in a higher being so I could set up crucifixes and holy water basins around my television.

Heroes is probably the worst TV show I've ever watched any episodes of - effectively got worse with every single episode. It was effectively incomprehensible and the product of a writing team of rabid lunatics by the time I quit - and yet it continued for several more seasons.

I have no hope whatsoever for this revival, especially if Kring is back on board.

squonk

I agree. First season was OK but a bit nebulous and I never quite got a handle on what was really going on, but as there were mysetries involved, I didn't mind. Then I realised at the Finalé that the show was starting to look like another Lost and then the Cork episode happened... there was no coming back for me after that. I've since learned that Tim Kring isn't my kind of showrunner after a disasterous run in with Touch which was some of the worst television I've had the misfortune to watch in a very long time. I really think Heroes should just stay dead. We already have some good Superhero fodder on TV and in the works, like Arrow and Gotham. Surely there are creative people out there with innovative concepts for good TV shows that deserve a shot at a 13 episode run rather than attempting to flog this well dead horse back into life for one last trot?

Deeper Blue

I'll tentatively give this a chance. Still scarred from the Season 1 finale onwards (or should I say downwards?).

Oafley Jones

Had a re-read of Kring's AV Club interview. Fascinating stuff, full of "did he just admit that" moments. Favourite question posed to him..

AVC: In another interview, you mentioned that part of the show’s inspiration came from 9/11. What did you mean by that?

Laughed my ass off.

johnny_ultimate

The AV Club's reviews of the final season are hilarious - the writers simply gave up trying to provide any serious criticism of the show, and started ripping the absolute piss to tremendously entertaining effect. I found myself reading them long after I had abandoned all hope in the utterly abysmal show itself.

pixelburp

I think most are in agreement that seasons 2 onwards were uniformly terrible, but was the first such an aberration? I honestly haven't gone near the debut season since its original broadcast, but my memories are broadly positive, albeit after an admittedly shaky start (par for the course though with any first season). My overriding recollection though is of a show that wore its pulp, comicbook stylings on its sleeve and possessed some pretty compelling and memorable characters that at least papered over any faults in the narrative or plotting.

paulbok

Thought it was back already in The Tomorrow People, albeit remixed for the Twilight generation.

redbedhead

Deleted User wrote: »

There is a lot of potential in the concept and with the right writers it really could be something special. Sadly I imagine that it will most likely end up looking like the upcoming Zombieland show, cheap and trashy made to capitalise on the name.

Hasn't Zombieland already been and gone? The pilot was vilified, so it's not being picked up...unless you've heard different :P

Watching Heroes on season 1, I was fairly inconsistent and then lost interest at the start of Season 2 - was annoyed with what they did after that. I don't know what Tim Kring was thinking. I assumed he'd know what he was doing after Misfits of Science:) (Showing my age now)

redbedhead

redbedhead wrote: »

Hasn't Zombieland already been and gone? The pilot was vilified, so it's not being picked up...unless you've heard different :P

Watching Heroes on season 1, I was fairly inconsistent and then lost interest at the start of Season 2 - was annoyed with what they did after that. I don't know what Tim Kring was thinking. I assumed he'd know what he was doing after Misfits of Science:) (Showing my age now)

That's a year old post you quoted.

Heroes had an interesting premise but I quickly lost interest and didn't even finish the first series. Tried to rewatch it on DVD a few years back and gave up in the middle of the second disc. It's all do generic and trite that its hard to get into. That said my favourite item if clothing is a Save the Cheerleader tsarist that's the most comfortable item of clothing I've ever worn.

redbedhead

Deleted User wrote: »

That's a year old post you quoted.

Oops! I'm usually good with spotting that!:rolleyes:

don ramo

part one of season one was unbelievable stuff, i remember it took a 2 month break, and after that it started to become a bit disjointed, while the majority of the second half of the season was good there was signs of the bad writing creeping in, and then from season 2 it seemed the majority of the episode were substandard,

i credit most of the downfall to the fact that brian fuller left the show after season 1, he returned for season 4, but the damage was done at that point, kring himself i think had a great idea, but like the walking dead at the moment which was adapted by frank darabont, that show has done much better since his departure, and i think heroes would be much better without kring, great idea and all that he had, he should really leave it to someone else

just saw that there were 22 writers on heroes over the 4 seasons, says it all really, some with 1,2,3,4 episode a piece, they clearly didnt work well together which translated to total inconsistency,

New Home

The Writers' Strike that started around the end of Season 1 has a lot to do with the following series being so very bad. By the time the Strike was over in time for the last season, the damage was done. I remember a massive dip in the quality of many series around then... a real shame, but I can see why the writers had to do it.

I have big hopes for this new series, I hope I won't be disappointed...

stevenmu

The only real problem I can recall with the first season was the ending. It promised so much and built up so much anticipation but from what I remember the end was a complete anti-climax, utterly disappointing.

In fairness that was one problem they fixed in the later seasons, by making them utterly disappointing right from the start.

squonk

There were 4 seasons??? Jebus H Crusty! I didn't think it lasted after season 2's turdfest!

jenjenten

stevenmu wrote: »

The only real problem I can recall with the first season was the ending. It promised so much and built up so much anticipation but from what I remember the end was a complete anti-climax, utterly disappointing.

In fairness that was one problem they fixed in the later seasons, by making them utterly disappointing right from the start.

In a nutshell....Kring admitted even before season 1 ended he changed is initials plans after the shows success. In early season 1 interviews he said the finale would see a huge showdown with Sylar and most of the characters killed off,

Season 2 would start off with all new characters/stories with (presumably) Sylar carrying forward. NBC nixed his ideas and he kept everyone alive.

Season 1 was great except for the final two episodes of pure copout.

jenjenten

squonk wrote: »

There were 4 seasons??? Jebus H Crusty! I didn't think it lasted after season 2's turdfest!

bryan fuller made the show what it is....Company Man is a superb piece of tv!

jenjenten

New Home wrote: »

The Writers' Strike that started around the end of Season 1 has a lot to do with the following series being so very bad. By the time the Strike was over in time for the last season, the damage was done. I remember a massive dip in the quality of many series around then... a real shame, but I can see why the writers had to do it.

I have big hopes for this new series, I hope I won't be disappointed...

The strike killed the show in the sense they only had writting/filmed 10 episodes....but the writing was cack and they used the strike to abondon season 2 and start fresh the following sept. for season 3.

And season 3 was the worst.....season 4A was pretty good as Bryan Fuller was back, he then quit for season 4B and it fell apart even worse!

jenjenten

Sheldom sums things up perfectly!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsVWWaodXio

jenjenten

The reason i liked season 1 was its dense storyline....multiple characters that used flashforwards and backwards to tell backstory and fill in blanks.

The time travel aspect and moving forward/backward required the viewer to pay close attention and multiple viewings to keep the story straight.

Season 1 was mapped out very well, you can see this in how the back/forward stuff fell into place....the only writing weakspot was Kirby Plaza and that two parter finale.

Its obvious kring was either pressured or decided to change his well laid plans, he gave numerous interviews....he said clearly most would get killed off.

The whole premise of season 1 was Sylar gathering powers and a huge showdown, kring dropped the ball. the less said about season 2,3,4 the better........:o

squonk wrote: »

I agree. First season was OK but a bit nebulous and I never quite got a handle on what was really going on, but as there were mysetries involved, I didn't mind. Then I realised at the Finalé that the show was starting to look like another Lost and then the Cork episode happened... there was no coming back for me after that. I've since learned that Tim Kring isn't my kind of showrunner after a disasterous run in with Touch which was some of the worst television I've had the misfortune to watch in a very long time. I really think Heroes should just stay dead. We already have some good Superhero fodder on TV and in the works, like Arrow and Gotham. Surely there are creative people out there with innovative concepts for good TV shows that deserve a shot at a 13 episode run rather than attempting to flog this well dead horse back into life for one last trot?

pixelburp

Bloody 'ell jenjen stop spamming the thread.

Definitely need more concrete info on this series at this stage because I think it's fair to say there's little remaining good will towards this show. Wonder if any of the former cast have been tapped for a return, considering many have gone on to bigger / better things...

Engine No.9

For months I've resisted the temptation to rewatch this on Netflix, but I'm definitely gonna now.

From memory tho, I think it will either have to run parallel to the original show (all new cast and characters but set in the same time frame) or given that the Cheerleader "outed" them to the world in the final episode it will have to somewhat continue on from that with the world's new found knowledge, but again with a whole new cast and characters.

Definitely needs a definite path and a good writing team. Writing was it's key failure. That said, it would just seem wrong if Jack Coleman and Zachary Quinto weren't involved.

Patty O Furniture

pixelburp wrote: »

Bloody 'ell jenjen stop spamming the thread.

Definitely need more concrete info on this series at this stage because I think it's fair to say there's little remaining good will towards this show. Wonder if any of the former cast have been tapped for a return, considering many have gone on to bigger / better things...

It was great at the time, as you watched to see how many heroes Sylar would collect & everyone trying to save the cheerleader, but sadly fell to a limp finale & never recovered, as i kept up with it so far, but he finally caught up with the cheerleader & took another dive again?

I thought even with Robert Knepper (Teabag) on S04 would raise the bar, but sadly he was the only one holding it up.

Afaik, the Beeb were the only station/network that had an additional show after each ep with interviews & tidbits on the cast.

Btw what are the rest of the cast doing, afaik HaydenP is on Nashville

pajopearl wrote: »

For months I've resisted the temptation to rewatch this on Netflix, but I'm definitely gonna now.

From memory tho, I think it will either have to run parallel to the original show (all new cast and characters but set in the same time frame) or given that the Cheerleader "outed" them to the world in the final episode it will have to somewhat continue on from that with the world's new found knowledge, but again with a whole new cast and characters.

Definitely needs a definite path and a good writing team. Writing was it's key failure. That said, it would just seem wrong if Jack Coleman and Zachary Quinto weren't involved.

Before there was Netflix, it was the dearest thing to buy & that was just for Vol1 Pt1 for £26, until someone posted here on Amz US for $18.

That said Kring should leave it over to someone younger, as with his record on shows to date with the woeful Touch

Nollog

Taltos wrote: »

Yup - a series that started with so much promise that tanked more with each new incredulous reveal, each new season just went a bit too far down the rabbit hole - the last one with the circus well, enough said there.
When I compare it to the cancelled Alphas I know which one I would prefer to see back.

Ikr.
They go 20 episodes setting up this great storyline, then it ends in 2 really, really badly.
I gave it the benefit on the doubt during the writer's strike in season 2, but 3 was just terrible.

Hopefully Kring is less involved.