That catabolic feeling...

Montroseee

Hey everyone, I'm sure avid gym lovers and people interested in fitness will know of the feeling when the body is in a catabolic state. I'm running a deficit of about 400-500 calories a day but am finding it incredibly hard to stick to. I'm forever low on energy and it is affecting my workouts.

Im thinking of going to around maintenance level whilst getting 30 mins of cardio per day. It should lead to basically the same results right? I asked a personal trainer in my gym this question, who is in great shape, and he said it probably wouldn't without giving any strong reason why.

WeeBushy

If you're eating maintenance calories then you're eating the amount your body requires to maintain its current weight, no? In that case if you up your calories by 4-500 but then up your activity levels after, and therefore calorie needs, the end result is the same as it is now.

kevpants

I've given up on dieting when I need to lose weight. The popular wisdom is that diet is numero uno when it comes to weight loss but, like you, I really can't stick it. Lo-car, no-carb, IF doesn't matter. I'm freakin MISERABLE on a diet.

Now I just run. I'm a 100kg+ powerlifter but screw it, running is training and I like training. I eat what I usually eat and if I have kevpocalypse and eat two pizzas I'll run the crap out of myself later.

Works too. In a running phase now and lbs are starting to drop despite starting a new job that put it's HQ directly across from a Subway.

I also feel great after a run, I struggle to feel human after a tuna f-ing salad.

Of course the calories in: calories in ratio is all people will bring up but I stopped caring about ratios around the same time I stopped reading "Busy at Maths 5". So in a nutshell you can still lose weight on a normal diet if you train enough,

discus

Kevpants, just as an aside, have you seen the thread this was extracted from?

Jerrica wrote: »

We know that 80% of looking good is down to diet but is there a very real effect on how cardio vs weights will affect that diet in the 23 hours a day you're not actively burning calories through exercise?

Did you find that when ya introduced running into your week, that it changed your appetite?

kevpants

discus wrote: »

Kevpants, just as an aside, have you seen the thread this was extracted from?



Did you find that when ya introduced running into your week, that it changed your appetite?

No I thought this was standalone.

The effect on diet from running, when I say running I mean min 5k per run multiple times a week not a lap of the GAA pitch, is that it adds a meal to my day. This may be down to my timetable and the fact most runs are done late but I need to put something substantial in post run.

It would be hard for me to be hungrier to be honest. I'm a bit of a waste disposal unit at the best of times, my earliest memories of being 6 or 7 include me eating full size t-bone steaks with multiple spuds if we went for a family meal. The kiddies menu was never a feature of my life.

I do chuckle at the regular facebook posts from 75kg dudes hardcore pigging out though. Wifepants thinks I'd wipe the floor with the "Man vs Food" guy.

See why I need to run now?

imnothim

kevpants wrote: »

when I say running I mean min 5k per run multiple times a week not a lap of the GAA pitch, is that it adds a meal to my day. This may be down to my timetable and the fact most runs are done late but I need to put something substantial in post

Sorry to hijack this thread for a second.

How hard are you running, what time would you cover a 5k in ? Do you feel any detremental effects in your p.l training ?