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London Irish Centre to host hateful radical feminist event

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  • 17-04-2013 7:04am
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    Registered Users Posts: 32


    Radfem 2013 is set to take place at the London Irish Centre. Note that Conway Hall declined to host the 2012 event when they realised how extreme it was.

    http://www.avoiceformen.com/updates/news-updates/radfem-2013-at-the-london-irish-centre/

    I wonder if the centre would host a far-right event or any other group of extremists?

    Quite ironic that what was originally a hostel for Irish men will be hosting a group that advocates violence against males.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Playboy


    Unbelievable. I'm going to contact the Centre. Thanks for letting us know


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Jerrica


    How can the IRISH centre, host this? Ireland is an anti abortion nation and its allowing these women who want to abort baby boys promote their hate?

    If you don't want some women to speak for all women please don't assume that my government speaks for all it's people. My government does not share my abortion views.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Whoa...

    The quote on that link from someone who is stated to be a social care worker involved with children in particular is rather disturbing.

    I think "Agent Kildare" went about it wrongly by focusing on Transgender issues, as opposed to alluding to the general athmosphere that'll be present at the conference as per the rest of the article before the e-mails.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    The London Irish Centre receives funding from the Irish government. It would be interesting to know whether the government endorse this use of Irish taxpayers money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭discus


    Sick, sick people.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Standman


    Does an organisation that has rooms to rent have to agree with everything the people who rent them believe?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭cantdecide


    Standman wrote: »
    Does an organisation that has rooms to rent have to agree with everything the people who rent them believe?

    If they did, God knows attending my monthly neo-nazi group would become difficult...


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,280 ✭✭✭✭fits


    *stumbles into forum* What the fcuk????? that's a lovely website.

    http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/feminist-lies-feminism/rape-farming-the-next-generation/
    .
    As the terms “rape” and “rapeseed oil” began to decline on food product labels during the 1990′s, by an odd coincidence, feminists began to face a real problem – the other sort of rape, meaning an unwanted sexual assault, was declining also. The sexual revolution, the ready availability of birth control, the widespread availability of porn and the hypergamy of women meant that fewer and fewer men raised to be rapists by their abusive single mums had enough dry time to service the rape needs of the gynocentric ideologues who had worked so hard to damage men and boys.

    Bigots of all stripes had used rape narratives as a staple of their propaganda diets. Want to undermine a black man, or a Romani (gypsy) man, or a Jewish man, or really, any man? Accuse him of rape, and toss a noose over the limb of a tree – problem solved. Even when the stories were recanted, either it was too late, or the police did nothing to the false rape accuser.

    Unfortunately, the flaw in the rape narrative is that unless you have an actual rape, sooner or later your narrative will lose its power and your bigotry needs will go frigid and starve.

    Imagine what would happen if 70% of the food in your city or town vanished. There would be panic, riots, extreme violence, crushing fear and death would soon be commonplace. The wasting of food would be a crime, dubious food would be consumed nevertheless, and the total collapse of social order would drive draconian measures to save society.

    Now consider…the decline in the forcible rape rate from 1979 to 2009 was over 82%.

    As the rates of actual jump-out-of-the-bushes forcible rape dropped to near extinction, the bigots against men who relied on rapists faced a huge problem – how to grow and promote rape without seeming to grow and promote rape.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭tsiehta


    Ugh, RadFem Hub is the worst. Doesn't look like their site exists anymore, but I recall reading some of their articles before. They were not only genuinely misandric, but they held extremely ****ty views on transgender individuals (they are TERFs, or "Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists").


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,876 ✭✭✭iptba


    Whoa...

    The quote on that link from someone who is stated to be a social care worker involved with children in particular is rather disturbing.
    Yes, indeed:
    And this delightful little gem from a Radfem childcare worker:
    “I have honestly have been reassessing the fact that I am giving care to these little future rapists, and what that says about me about me and my separatism. I know it is kinda going against my principle to support and care for these little ****ers.”- <name>


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,876 ✭✭✭iptba


    tsiehta wrote: »
    Ugh, RadFem Hub is the worst. Doesn't look like their site exists anymore, but I recall reading some of their articles before. They were not only genuinely misandric, but they held extremely ****ty views on transgender individuals (they are TERFs, or "Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists").
    Here's what a commenter said in terms of the website:
    It appears the Radfem Hub ( radicalhub.com) is now defunct, but the infestation of gender bigots has just moved their filth elsewhere

    Mod - snip

    now exactly where it should be behind password protection and out of the public view.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,377 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Some childcare worker the one in the second part was referring to the boys in her care as "future rapists".

    I couldn't really work out what the first one was trying to say, but I'm sure it was nothing good.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭GalwayGuy2


    Not really s big fan of that website, but I'm pretty sure everybody can agree that RadFem's are not a good group of people.
    Some childcare worker the one in the second part was referring to the boys in her care as "future rapists".

    I couldn't really work out what the first one was trying to say, but I'm sure it was nothing good.

    Hope the children didn't subconsciously pick up on that :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Fukuyama


    The language used in their articles resembles the style of language in Mein Kamph.

    I kind of laughed at the idea of eliminating 90% of the male population, killing any baby boys, keeping 10% of men alive for the purposes of sexual reproduction only, forced chemical serilization and experiments etc... all in the name of eliminating gender based violence. :rolleyes:

    The LIC should be ashamed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭clairefontaine


    Dean0088 wrote: »
    The language used in their articles resembles the style of language in Mein Kamph.

    I kind of laughed at the idea of eliminating 90% of the male population, killing any baby boys, keeping 10% of men alive for the purposes of sexual reproduction only, forced chemical serilization and experiments etc... all in the name of eliminating gender based violence. :rolleyes:

    The LIC should be ashamed.

    That's why they are called feminazis.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    As an advocate of male rights in the arena of parental equality, I have had run-ins with women's rights advocates in the past. But while we may have disagreed on fundamental issues about family law in Ireland, I never called their humanity into question nor they mine. In a lot of areas, I have shared interests with feminists, in the interest of creating a fairer and more equitable world for all.

    Hence as both an opponent and an ally of feminists in different circumstances, I feel confident in saying that these people who have booked the London Irish Centre are not feminists in any meaningful sense.

    They are misandrist hate-mongers. If they advocated for ethnic minorities, homosexuals or the disabled what they are advocating for men, they would be proscribed, shunned and likely prosecuted. They are nothing more than extremist gender fascists promoting hate and genocide, and they should not be given a platform to air their detestable hatred in any premises funded by this nation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 harrietharmman


    Here's London Irish Centre's Facebook:

    http://www.facebook.com/londonirishcentre


  • Administrators Posts: 53,487 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭GalwayGuy2


    Not entirely sure where to put this, but since I followed a few links from the posted link, I just thought I'd post it here. I found this article and was wondering what ye thought of what the father did.

    Personally, I don't like the people on a voice for men because they come across a mirror image of the more college activisy side of feminism, but what he said to his son could be classed, while not abusive, as incredibly damaging in the long term.

    Just noticed that I completely messed linking the article, but here it is: http://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/hesaid-a-father-son-talk-about-rape-and-reteah-parsons/


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭Duck Soup


    London Irish Centre has now cancelled the RadFem 2013 booking.

    http://www.mralondon.org/2013/04/press-release-london-irish-centre-says.html


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 393 ✭✭kingofslaves


    Duck Soup wrote: »
    London Irish Centre has now cancelled the RadFem 2013 booking.

    http://www.mralondon.org/2013/04/press-release-london-irish-centre-says.html

    Damn beat me too it ! lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭clairefontaine


    GalwayGuy2 wrote: »
    Not entirely sure where to put this, but since I followed a few links from the posted link, I just thought I'd post it here. I found this article and was wondering what ye thought of what the father did.

    Personally, I don't like the people on a voice for men because they come across a mirror image of the more college activisy side of feminism, but what he said to his son could be classed, while not abusive, as incredibly damaging in the long term.

    Just noticed that I completely messed linking the article, but here it is: http://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/hesaid-a-father-son-talk-about-rape-and-reteah-parsons/

    So his four year old son comes home feeling sad that a little girl didn't like his stolen kiss and his father tells him he is a rapist?

    Nice. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭tsiehta


    I agree with his ultimate intentions. I don't agree with him telling his son what he did was rape. He does sort of admit he was wrong to do this, but it's a little unclear in the article.

    I think explaining rape, sexual assault and consent to children at a young age is a positive thing. It would be nice to nurture a society in which explicit consent is the norm, and requesting consent isn't viewed as a mood killer or unsexy, but I think this father executed this quite a bit less than perfectly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭clairefontaine


    tsiehta wrote: »
    I agree with his ultimate intentions. I don't agree with him telling his son what he did was rape. He does sort of admit he was wrong to do this, but it's a little unclear in the article.

    I think explaining rape, sexual assault and consent to children at a young age is a positive thing. It would be nice to nurture a society in which explicit consent is the norm, and requesting consent isn't viewed as a mood killer or unsexy, but I think this father executed this quite a bit less than perfectly.

    At that age, it is better to teach them about respecting personal boundaries, particularly of the body. He is FOUR years old.

    This is why horseplay is so important from both mothers and fathers, it teaches them that different people have different limits and to respect those limits. You dont have to bring rape discussions into it.

    And also to teach them if they don't want to be kissed or hugged that is ok too and to respect others who don't want their hugs and kisses, etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭GalwayGuy2


    I agree with his ultimate intentions. I don't agree with him telling his son what he did was rape. He does sort of admit he was wrong to do this, but it's a little unclear in the article.

    I think explaining rape, sexual assault and consent to children at a young age is a positive thing. It would be nice to nurture a society in which explicit consent is the norm, and requesting consent isn't viewed as a mood killer or unsexy, but I think this father executed this quite a bit less than perfectly.

    I don't. There's a difference between educating your children, and instilling fear into them of being raped or being a rapist.

    What the father actuallu did was equate normal sexuality with abnormal sexuality. Which, unfortunately, you see a lot.

    And I don't think you understand how damaging is the thing that he did. (Good god my grammer sucks) He'll always, conscious or subconscious, have that fear that he may cross a boundary and become a rapist. Which is a ridiculous fear. And if he goes through anxiety, as every adolescent does, then his mind will go back to that fear, and it could multiply that anxiety and really turn it into something to worry about. As, contrary to some people's belief, I think most men would rather hurt themselves then rape someone.

    On a lighter note, I think I can make asking for consent sound sexy:P I blame the Kim Harrison novels.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭tsiehta


    I clearly said I didn't agree with him telling his son that what he did was rape. What I did say is that I agree with teaching kids about consent, and what rape and sexual assault are from a young age. Is it this you do not agree with?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭GalwayGuy2


    Yes. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭tsiehta


    In that case, I find the notion that teaching your children about consent, sexual assault and rape potentially leaves them perpetually fearful of being raped or becoming a rapist to be bizarre.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    Why would you even think of ruining their childhood with such discussions? Boys or girls don't need to know about rape or any sexual activity, that just stinks of feminist nonsense. 99.9% of people grow up without any inclinations towards these acts so why the **** would you even consider this?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭tsiehta


    You have to talk to children about sex at some point, what's so wrong with teaching them about consent?


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