Bangernomics car of the week/day part III

Old diesel

Truckermal wrote: »

That's a lovely Focus..

Indeed - my first reaction was to think when are the insurance companies open again - to get an insurance quote.

Looks nice a very nice car

jharr100

Old diesel wrote: »

I see one of the Focuses above is down as "1 lady owner for last 6 years" - but the sellers name is Liam.

Assuming the Focus is in the lady owners name (say Bridget for example) - then obviously its possible that the car is Liams wifes/girlfriends/sisters car - and Liam is handling the sale - all good.

But how does one verify that - or does one just run a motorcheck.ie type check and if alls well - its all good.

I see Liam has 2 other vehicles for sale

http://cars.donedeal.ie/find/all/for-sale/Ireland/?uid=57109

Scortho

jharr100 wrote: »

I see Liam has 2 other vehicles for sale

http://cars.donedeal.ie/find/all/for-sale/Ireland/?uid=57109

Liam ain't very good at lying so!

colm_mcm

And he's called Leo in one of the ads

And he has this a6
http://www.gumtree.ie/cp-cars-in-wicklow/audi-a6-1-8-turbo-548817025

Hal1

Re the focus mk1.The rear wheel arches on them rust. I would lift the back seats to check how advanced it is. I treated my own and used undersealer on them.

Kaiser D

1989 Volkswagen Golf GTI
1.8 Petrol, manual
100k Miles
NCT 8/14, no tax
€1600
Nice classic daily, probably an 8v though.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/golf-mk2-gti/6133834

Hal1

I'm not sure if this has been advertised already, looks familiar but I'll post it just in case.

BMW 520I E39 http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-e39-520i-manual/6116756



NCT 04/14

TAX 01/14

wotswattage

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

Do you think that Saab is lowered? Looks very low to me. Not saying it's a bad thing but probably not the most practical in an estate car!

DeFinch89 wrote: »

The 9-5 does look a bit low alright,
be a bastard to find out the springs were cut

I know the 93 Aero has lower/stiffer suspension than a normal one so probably the same for a 95.

Ardennes1944 wrote: »

That Saab is 5mins from me I'm taking a spin after Christmas first thing!

It's a really nice one.

He's also selling this 93 Aero for more (outside bangernomics) money here http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-93-9-3-2-0-turbo-aero/6179173. It's a nice car too but the money is a bit high. Then again there aren't any others for sale in the country at the moment bar that manky green one a few pages back with horrible wheels and incorrect bumpers. That one also seems to be riding very high for an Aero...

I'm mad for a 2 door unmolested 93 Aero they just seem to have vanished off the face of the earth :(

toyotaavensis

that lad is a saab specialist near the airport. I have heard a lot of good things about him.

Toyotafanboi

the 5er looks like its een through the ****ter... with those angel eye head lamps are mega tacky and the colour coded parking sensors in a non colour coded moulding, why the hell would someone do that? rear wind deflector but no front one etc.

i know they are just details but i wouldn't have much faith in it with 4 months test and no tax even if just for €1k.

Mister Man

I think the 520 was posted a week or two ago? I remember the pictures - I can re-call the hard-hat in the passenger seat.
If anyone is considering the 520i, and needs to travel a decent distance, let me know. I'd be happy to have a look some day and make sure it's not a complete POS.

DeFinch89

Kaiser D wrote: »

1989 Volkswagen Golf GTI
1.8 Petrol, manual
100k Miles
NCT 8/14, no tax
€1600
Nice classic daily, probably an 8v though.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/golf-mk2-gti/6133834

hmmm, that is a lovely little minter.
same age as myself too lol

on the 8v matter: from what iv read on these GTi's the earlier models fitted with the 8v sohc engines felt a bit more of a performance car then the later models when they switched to the 16v dohc version, I dont know why considering basic engineering laws would dictate a 16v dohc version of the same 12v sohc engine is an improvement in all aspects such as better fuel economy, power, torque, etc. due to seperate control over exhaust and intake valves with the dohc then a sohc where a single camshaft was doing the job of controlling both intake and exhaust valves.

I mean do correct me if im wrong but I read somewhere enthusiasts prefered the earlier 8v sohc engined models?

alias no.9

DeFinch89 wrote: »

hmmm, that is a lovely little minter.
same age as myself too lol

on the 8v matter: from what iv read on these GTi's the earlier models fitted with the 8v sohc engines felt a bit more of a performance car then the later models when they switched to the 16v dohc version, I dont know why considering basic engineering laws would dictate a 16v dohc version of the same 12v sohc engine is an improvement in all aspects such as better fuel economy, power, torque, etc. due to seperate control over exhaust and intake valves with the dohc then a sohc where a single camshaft was doing the job of controlling both intake and exhaust valves.

I mean do correct me if im wrong but I read somewhere enthusiasts prefered the earlier 8v sohc engined models?

Comes down to driving style, a 16v will breathe better up to higher revs and that's where you feel the difference while an 8v tends to deliver all its got in a bit of a lump low down in the rev range. It's a bit like the 1.9tdi 'supercars' where the lump of power is very noticeable but it's over very quickly .

Edit: given the amount of big bumper conversions and retrofit bee stings done over the years, an unmolested 8v like that may fetch an authenticity premium in years to come.

Quazzie

That Golf needs a head gasket. Suddenly it isn't such a bargain.

nd

Saab 9-3, nct to oct., 1250 euro

looks very clean

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-93-2-0-turbo-2001-nct-leather/6180382

nd

Quazzie wrote: »

That Golf needs a head gasket. Suddenly it isn't such a bargain.

nvr noticed that.

Patrickheg

nd wrote: »

Saab 9-3, nct to oct., 1250 euro

looks very clean

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-93-2-0-turbo-2001-nct-leather/6180382

What a beautiful car, hard to believe it's nearly 13 years old, really have aged well.

Built at a time when GM were throwing money at SAAB, so the swedes never really cared about making a profit so end result was over engineering

Old diesel

Patrickheg wrote: »

What a beautiful car, hard to believe it's nearly 13 years old, really have aged well.

Built at a time when GM were throwing money at SAAB, so the swedes never really cared about making a profit so end result was over engineering

Was that model 9 3 over engineered though - issues with bulkheads cracking and such like don't exactly suggest over engineering.

I know the bulkhead cracking was down to the limits of GM design etc but still

They aren't bad cars - and obviously they look great - especially in 3 door form.

But I wouldn't have thought they were overengineered in the way older Mercs, Volvos and Saabs were

9 5s are a different story mind - as Saab clearly put a lot of effort and achieved something amazing to get a 1988 design platform to 4/5 star Ncap test ratings.

johndaman66

nd wrote: »

nvr noticed that.

I didn't either, it doesn't say it in the ad anyways. Were you talking to the seller Quazzie? If it does need the HG done its not a small repair....would make a lot of sense to draw reference to it in the ad

nd

Oh he was talking about this golf that I posted

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/vw-golf-5-door-long-taxtest/6180430

I deleted the post as it wasn't really bangernomics due to the head gasket.

davycc

Kaiser D wrote: »

1989 Volkswagen Golf GTI
1.8 Petrol, manual
100k Miles
NCT 8/14, no tax
€1600
Nice classic daily, probably an 8v though.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/golf-mk2-gti/6133834

Great find Kaiser:cool: Assuming no rust etc there are only 1 way values are going on such examples is appreciating assetts:D..

I had identical original irish unmolested a 88 8V 3dr in white myself and loads of fun down a backroad and track days in mondello too etc..

I had loads more mk2 16v as prefered the more revvy fun & tuneable engine ,closer ratio box & better suspesion and brakes too

Old diesel

davycc wrote: »

Great find Kaiser:cool: Assuming no rust etc there are only 1 way values are going on such examples is appreciating assetts:D..

I had identical original irish unmolested a 88 8V 3dr in white myself and loads of fun down a backroad and track days in mondello too etc..

I had loads more mk2 16v as prefered the more revvy fun & tuneable engine ,closer ratio box & better suspesion and brakes too

Mk 2 Golf was the car of its generation - in hatchback terms* at least - and the Gti was the ultimate of what was a very good car anyway - even in basic 1.3 petrol or 1.6 d.

Find one with power steering - and they must be pretty close to unbeatable in 1980s terms.

As such in terms of Gtis - I think whether the car has an 8v or 16v - its still better then most other classic cars.

Yes I said the word classic - far too many inferior to Mk 2 Golf cars are highly regarded as real classics - the Mk 2 Golf WILL be considered a bona fide classic.

So yes - absolutely agree - prices of a good Mk 2 Golf - especially Gtis will only be going one way.

*205 was a great car too - but Golf was better built, Ascona and Carina IIs were very good cars too - but Golf shades it as its got the sensible Carina and Ascona type thing going on - but the Gtis were in another league again

nd

Audi a4 diesel, nct to 05/14, 2050 euro

I wonder is there any chance the mileage is genuine
So these have the same engine as the passats, golfs octavias ect? And should be the same reliability wise?


http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/audi-a4-1-9-tdi/6101463

JohnBoy26

Old diesel wrote: »

Mk 2 Golf was the car of its generation - in hatchback terms* at least - and the Gti was the ultimate of what was a very good car anyway - even in basic 1.3 petrol or 1.6 d.

Find one with power steering - and they must be pretty close to unbeatable in 1980s terms.

As such in terms of Gtis - I think whether the car has an 8v or 16v - its still better then most other classic cars.

Yes I said the word classic - far too many inferior to Mk 2 Golf cars are highly regarded as real classics - the Mk 2 Golf WILL be considered a bona fide classic.

So yes - absolutely agree - prices of a good Mk 2 Golf - especially Gtis will only be going one way.

*205 was a great car too - but Golf was better built, Ascona and Carina IIs were very good cars too - but Golf shades it as its got the sensible Carina and Ascona type thing going on - but the Gtis were in another league again

as good as the mk2 golf is, im pretty certain from experience that the carina II is a good bit better built in comparison. The carina II is also from a class above and is good bit more refined and nicer to drive Imo.

those golfs while being very robust were rough enough, especially the diesels. I remember on the diesel models when ticking over the dash board would rattle like mad in them due to engine vibrations

CianRyan

Old diesel wrote: »

Mk 2 Golf was the car of its generation - in hatchback terms* at least - and the Gti was the ultimate of what was a very good car anyway - even in basic 1.3 petrol or 1.6 d.

Find one with power steering - and they must be pretty close to unbeatable in 1980s terms.

As such in terms of Gtis - I think whether the car has an 8v or 16v - its still better then most other classic cars.

Yes I said the word classic - far too many inferior to Mk 2 Golf cars are highly regarded as real classics - the Mk 2 Golf WILL be considered a bona fide classic.

So yes - absolutely agree - prices of a good Mk 2 Golf - especially Gtis will only be going one way.

*205 was a great car too - but Golf was better built, Ascona and Carina IIs were very good cars too - but Golf shades it as its got the sensible Carina and Ascona type thing going on - but the Gtis were in another league again

I'd rather anything that was given a 4age. No way the GTI is more satisfying to drive than an AE86.
An old Swift GTI with the revvy 1.3 would be unreal too.

The car of the generation? A Corolla was faster in a straight line and around a bend.

jharr100

nd wrote: »

Audi a4 diesel, nct to 05/14, 2050 euro

I wonder is there any chance the mileage is genuine
So these have the same engine as the passats, golfs octavias ect? And should be the same reliability wise?


http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/audi-a4-1-9-tdi/6101463

This guy is selling half a dozen other cars,,,
Not that there's anything wrong with that,,
Just saying!

Oh and I'd look for proof of genuine mileage .

Ded_Zebra

Not sure if it's a repost but you could do a lot worse for €650. I would love to do a 20v 4A-GE conversion on one of these!

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-carina/6123508

Old diesel

Haven't seen that Carina before so that's probably the first posting

lovely test on it too - March 2015 - nice very nice.

Car looks nice and genuine too.

miles wouldn't be an issue on a good one of these imo.

Kaiser D

1996 Volvo 850 T5 Estate
2.5 Diesel, manual
No real miles listed
NCT 5/14, with some tax
€775
Seems alright, but did they make an actual T5 diesel?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volvo-850-t5-diesel-nct-til-may-2014/6181480

Kaiser D

1994 Volvo 940 Turbo
2.0 Petrol, manual
No miles listed
NCT 4/14
€950
Possibly a bit expensive at €950 with only 4 months NCT; but it could perhaps be bought for €800.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volvo-940-2-0-turbo-/6155286