wCw memories thread

eireannBEAR

hi as a former wCw fan who cant move on from 2001 i was wondering are there any wcw/nwo fans on boards?

if so who was your fav 5 wrestlers?

what was you fav match?

and,how much do you miss nitro and thunder?

my top 5 are:

1. ric flair {the greatest of all time}

2. sting

3. hollywood hogan {this turn changed all of wrestling for the better}

4. chris jericho {massive loss to the company-bischoffs biggest mistake}

5. jeff jarrett {he came when wcw was at its lowest and at times was the only good thing about it}


best match. hollywood hogan vs goldberg - for world title the crowed was electric!!! if you have not seen it youtube it.

TNT on a friday and saturday night oh how i miss it!!!

chopperbyrne

Used to watch quite a bit of WCW during the Wolfpac vs Horsemen days of Nitro and Thunder back to back six hour suckfests!

Enjoyed it a lot back then as me and my mates would all watch it on Friday nights often with a few beers and an N64 with WCW/nWo Revenge four player going on a second telly.

Favourites were Benoit and Malenko as a tag team.

eireannBEAR

ah revenge years a head of its time!!! good taste those were the days all right wcw/nwo revenge. golden eye and fifa world cup 98 on the n64

ShagNastii

End of Nitro. Sting. Rafters. Beating seven shades out of sh*te all NWO members.

I was like the stone cold stunner during a promo. You could see it coming a mile off but by god did I go bananas every time it happened.

Ridley

A rental of WCW vs. nWo: World Tour got me into rasslin' but dang if I can remember anything from WCW except a hazy memory of Jericho and Ralphus walking to the ring. Dropped it for WWF as soon as I could.

krudler

Nitro was better than Raw for ages, but a lot of the ppv stuff sucked, the story of WCW's rise and fall is one they'll be talking about for decades, good lessons to be learned from that in how not to run a wrestling business. This is one of my favourite Nitro matches, Goldberg is made to look like a million quid in this (his old music was far better than the WWE version too) :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgVNscmCXHk

great spots, crowd is going absolutely bananas by the end, how to push a new(ish) guy as a superstar 101.

Ando's Saggy Bottom

1001 holds.

'Nuff said.

Loughc

Pete Campbell wrote: »

1001 holds.

'Nuff said.

1004 holds.

Jericho said :cool:

eireannBEAR

krudler wrote: »

Nitro was better than Raw for ages, but a lot of the ppv stuff sucked.

i never understood that!! that is true even as a die hard fan i was never satisfied with the ppv!!!

i could never get my head around wwe i tried watching in 99/00 and it just seemed a lot less adult although the best ppv i have ever seen was a wwe summerslam from either 99 or 00 all i remember was shane mc mahom was fight but it was pure entertainment.

Super-Rush

Pete Campbell wrote: »

1001 holds.

'Nuff said.

Arrrrrrmmmm Barrrrrrrrrrr.

G Spark

Slamboree 1998. After Ciclope wins the Cruiseweight battle for a shot at Jericho's title. He unmasks to reveals its Dean Makenko. The pop was unreal! Love it!

Super-Rush

The first night the NWO invaded was unreal.

I remember being very bored watching Nitro that night but when Scott Hall came down through the crowd i near wet myself. Back then having not internet or 'insider' knowledge was what made the NWO angle so good. I was convinced that the WWF had sent Razor to invade WCW and i continued to believe it for a long time.

When Hogan was revealed to be the third member of the NWO at BATB was the best of the lot. I couldn't describe how i felt when Hulkster came out, first i thought he was here to to save WCW, but then he hit the leg drop on Savage my childhood hero was gone forever.

Loughc

G Spark wrote: »

Slamboree 1998. After Ciclope wins the Cruiseweight battle for a shot at Jericho's title. He unmasks to reveals its Dean Makenko. The pop was unreal! Love it!

The conspiracy angle Jericho had that followed was hillarious!

krudler

the Hogan/Sting angle was brilliantly built as well, went on for ages and ages, Sting appearing in the rafters doing nothing but standing there pointing the baseball bat at the nWo, they mucked it up having Bret Hart involved though Sting shoulda won clean at Starrcade.

I was never a really regular viewer used to catch it the odd time on TNT, the cruiserweights were brilliant though, WCW had a much better undercard than WWF at the time, but the main event scene was the opposite I thought.

The nWo was brilliant but they ruined it by putting jobbers into it, when it was Hogan/Hall/Nash it was fresh and totally different, then when you had guys like Virgil in it? wrecked it. then the whole black&white vs wolfpac then, the latino one, talk about milking it.

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Super-Rush wrote: »

When Hogan was revealed to be the third member of the NWO at BATB was the best of the lot. I couldn't describe how i felt when Hulkster came out, first i thought he was here to to save WCW, but then he hit the leg drop on Savage my childhood hero was gone forever.

That is probably my favourite wrestling moments, the biggest face in the history of the business turns heel.

My favourite WCW wrestlers would have been Sting, Jerico, Chris Jericho, "The Hollywood Blonds" tag team, Ricky Steamboat, Rey mysterio jnr, Psicosis, Rick Rude

Ruu

WCW magazine. Saturday afternoons on UTV. Terra Ryzing(Google if you must!) on WCW. Got Sky and had flip all channels but TNT was free. Vader time!

krudler

I always liked the production values of WCW, the Nitro and ppv stages were cool, especially ones like Halloween Havoc and Spring Stampede. Anyone remember the WW3 triple ring battle royal? good lord that was a cluster**** of a match.

Super-Rush

Ruubot2 wrote: »

WCW magazine. Saturday afternoons on UTV. Terra Ryzing(Google if you must!) on WCW. Got Sky and had flip all channels but TNT was free. Vader time!

PPV's on the German channel DSF.

G Spark

Super-Rush wrote: »

When Hogan was revealed to be the third member of the NWO at BATB was the best of the lot. I couldn't describe how i felt when Hulkster came out, first i thought he was here to to save WCW, but then he hit the leg drop on Savage my childhood hero was gone forever.

It still annoys me every time I watch that, when Bobby Heenan says "but who's side is he on". No one even contemplated him turning till he said that.

Charisteas

Super-Rush wrote: »

When Hogan was revealed to be the third member of the NWO at BATB was the best of the lot. I couldn't describe how i felt when Hulkster came out, first i thought he was here to to save WCW, but then he hit the leg drop on Savage my childhood hero was gone forever.

Did Bobby 'The Brain Drain' Heenan not ruin it for you?

Edit, ah G Spark beat me to it!

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G Spark wrote: »

It still annoys me every time I watch that, when Bobby Heenan says "but who's side is he on". No one even contemplated him turning till he said that.

I was literally going to post that. I remember Tony Shivani's response "WHAT IN...THE....HELL ARE YOU....TALKING ABOUT??" While probably giving Heenan a look to get him to shut up! That actually ruined it for me at the time. Loved his speech after the match though, the crowd were so pissed off!

Super-Rush wrote: »

PPV's on the German channel DSF.

we used to tape them on DSF. you could hear the english commentary under the german commentary.

Super-Rush

Tbh i never noticed what Heenan said when Hogan came out. I suppose i was too caught up in the moment. Looking back on it all it was a major spoiler.

eireannBEAR

Super-Rush wrote: »

Tbh i never noticed what Heenan said when Hogan came out. I suppose i was too caught up in the moment. Looking back on it all it was a major spoiler.

oh i noticed but i still didnt cop on lol.

tony shevionni (i cant spell it) was the best commentator ever im amazed he does not work for tna or wwe hes a small time basket ball announcer now for some part time womens team.

eireannBEAR

eireannBEAR wrote: »

tony shevionni (i cant spell it) was the best commentator ever im amazed he does not work for tna or wwe hes a small time basket ball announcer now for some part time womens team.

Its spelt Tony "This is the biggest night in the history of our great sport" Schiavone

eireannBEAR

Deleted User wrote: »

Its spelt Tony "This is the biggest night in the history of our great sport" Schiavone

yes wcw was amazing every thunder nitro and ppv was the greatest night in sport each better than the last lol he was class

chopperbyrne

I actually enjoyed Schiavone's commentary and was quite annoyed when he only got to commentate the Nitro (RAW) main event once during the Invasion angle.

Heenan hated being in WCW though and probably spoiled it on purpose.

GRMA

Heenan didnt spoil it, back then he was always being a cynical ****e about Hogan saying he was going to do this or that so in the context of the day it wasnt a spoiler.

Ruu

Super-Rush wrote: »

PPV's on the German channel DSF.

Nudey wimmins on ads for household products as well, win win.

Schiavone did a heel turn in TNA early days it looks like.

G Spark

chopperbyrne wrote: »

I actually enjoyed Schiavone's commentary and was quite annoyed when he only got to commentate the Nitro (RAW) main event once during the Invasion angle.

It might sound weird but Schiavone's voice only worked on WCW shows for me. I recently watched SummerSlam 1990 with on commentary, just couldn't get my head around his voice on a WWF show.

Loughc

G Spark wrote: »

It might sound weird but Schiavone's voice only worked on WCW shows for me. I recently watched SummerSlam 1990 with on commentary, just couldn't get my head around his voice on a WWF show.

I thought it was Summerslam 1989 and Royal Rumble 1990 that he did? I didn't know he did Summerslam 1990 as well!

G Spark

lockie1983 wrote: »

I thought it was Summerslam 1989 and Royal Rumble 1990 that he did? I didn't know he did Summerslam 1990 as well!

You're correct, my bad. I'd watched the Rumble & Summerslam, got mixed up.

DEFTLEFTHAND

krudler wrote: »

I always liked the production values of WCW, the Nitro and ppv stages were cool, especially ones like Halloween Havoc and Spring Stampede. Anyone remember the WW3 triple ring battle royal? good lord that was a cluster**** of a match.

I first noticed they were in trouble when the production budget was cut and they began using scaled down trons and stages. In the final few months they used the same basic tron for all shows, Nitro, Thunder and PPVs.

Mr.Nice Guy

I never got to watch it on TV, so everything I've seen of WCW has been stuff I've watched retrospectively.

I'm probably odd in that I generally prefer late eighties/early nineties WCW to the stuff they were producing in their boom period.

krudler

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I first noticed they were in trouble when the production budget was cut and they began using scaled down trons and stages. In the final few months they used the same basic tron for all shows, Nitro, Thunder and PPVs.

There's a match from later 2000 or early 2001 I can't remember exactly on one of the ladder match dvds, and honestly about 60% of the arena is empty, its all either tarped off or has no lights on it and the entire crowd is down around the ringside area and first tiered rows.

eireannBEAR

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I first noticed they were in trouble when the production budget was cut and they began using scaled down trons and stages. In the final few months they used the same basic tron for all shows, Nitro, Thunder and PPVs.

dude it was the same stage nitro and thunder were filmed on the same night for the final 6months sure in the last few nitros they used thunders blue ropes,it was shame seeing what it had become it genuinely broke my heart!! even the final nitro had no one at it,the company deserved so much better.

i think it was all over since russos first stint in 99. although i had hope for it after its relaunch with the new blood vs the millionaires club..but it was not to be

Am Chile

In my opinion the best period in wrestling was the monday night wars era-since that era ended wrestling hasn,t been the same for me-where WCW went wrong they failed to push newer younger talents they relied far too much on former WWF wrestlers-WCW in 1996 some of the main wreslters in the top spots were hogan/sting/nash/hall/luger/savage/flair a few years later in 2000 they were still among the top spots in the company-the only fellow who really got a push to breakout among main event level was bill goldberg-mean in the then WWF during that attitude era-stone cold/the rock/triple h were all pushed to main event level-when goldberg jobbed to kevin nash at starcade 1998 I share the view that some people have that they took the WCW world title off goldberg too soon once goldbergs run with the belt ended he never had a good run with the WCW title in the company again-one wrestling book I strongly recommend is the death of wcw well worth reading

token101

Waiting endlessly for Cartoon Network to **** off and the music to come on. Only started watching Nitro around March 98 right when the Wolfpac stuff was kicking off. Great show altogether up until Starrcade 98, dropped off a bit afterwards and then plummeted after the following Starrcade. Hate watching old DVDs and seeing people slag it off, it was absolutely unreal at times and a million times better than what's on now.

Ando's Saggy Bottom

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I never got to watch it on TV, so everything I've seen of WCW has been stuff I've watched retrospectively.

I'm probably odd in that I generally prefer late eighties/early nineties WCW to the stuff they were producing in their boom period.

+1 on the late 80's/early 90's stuff. Some great proper wrestling back in those days.

gnfnrhead

Am Chile wrote: »

where WCW went wrong they failed to push newer younger talents they relied far too much on former WWF wrestlers-WCW in 1996 some of the main wreslters in the top spots were hogan/sting/nash/hall/luger/savage/flair a few years later in 2000 they were still among the top spots in the company-the only fellow who really got a push to breakout among main event level was bill goldberg

Scott Stiener, Jeff Jarrett, DDP and Booker T were all top talent by that time. Where WCW went wrong was giving out huge contracts to everyone and giving guys like Hogan creative control.

eireannBEAR

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Scott Stiener, Jeff Jarrett, DDP and Booker T were all top talent by that time. Where WCW went wrong was giving out huge contracts to everyone and giving guys like Hogan creative control.

exactly!!!huge contracts and nash and hogan set the seeds followed by vince russo coming in finished it off!

russo claims he had the ratings on the up which they were, but that was due to the wwf attitude era going stale,wcw in 99 was probably worse than it was in 01
he copied the story lines he created in the wwf and created the image of wcw as a copycat 2nd rate company after his first short stint,the whole company lost its edge pre-russo it was a game changer in wrestling and now its considered a plastic dinosaur failed wanna be wwe.

it does not deserve that reputation,if it was not for bischoff and the nwo wwe fans would still be watch the likes of jim duggan pulling brass knuckles out of his knickers!!!!

eireannBEAR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=B-JhKCmdGDY

guys watch this i for obvious reasons didnt appreciate this promo at the time i was too devasted, but this man is the greatest.

ric flairs response to mc mahon buying wcw,if only it took place in an arena and in font of real wcw fans instead of drunking spring break louts.

Garseys

chopperbyrne wrote: »

I actually enjoyed Schiavone's commentary and was quite annoyed when he only got to commentate the Nitro (RAW) main event once during the Invasion angle.

He didn't even get that far. Arn Anderson and Scott Hudson were the Announce team for those matches on WCW is Raw (or whatever you want to call it).

Actually come to think of it, If Bagwell and Booker didn't have that Flop match we probably would have had WCW as their own show.


Back on topic. I remember watching the Last night of Nitro/Raw episode and being amazed. I'd only ever seen one or two bits of WCW (Until Sky Sports started showing old episodes of WCW Worldwide instead of wwe classics).
I really enjoyed those matches. Cactus Jack, Brian Pillman etc..

eireannBEAR

Garseys wrote: »

Actually come to think of it, If Bagwell and Booker didn't have that Flop match we probably would have had WCW as their own show.

poppycock.

Garseys

eireannBEAR wrote: »

poppycock.

I've read multiple times that the reason they were given that half hour on Raw and Smackdown was to see if a WCW tv show would work.

Then that match happened and well plans were immediately scrapped or so the rumour goes.

eireannBEAR

Garseys wrote: »

I've read multiple times that the reason they were given that half hour on Raw and Smackdown was to see if a WCW tv show would work.

Then that match happened and well plans were immediately scrapped or so the rumour goes.

come on, believe it or not vince is actually that spiteful wcw was going nowhere but down,it was never going to have its own real show.

when he was in talks over purchasing wcw he tried to exclude wrestling contracts.

all he wanted was the library and name so it would not be revived by anyone else.

Garseys

eireannBEAR wrote: »

come on, believe it or not vince is actually that spiteful wcw was going nowhere but down,it was never going to have its own real show.

when he was in talks over purchasing wcw he tried to exclude wrestling contracts.

all he wanted was the library and name so it would not be revived by anyone else.

Have you read Bischoffs book? Fusient Media Ventures tendered the offer for everything (and quite a healthy sum aswell). They were waiting for the all clear when TNT pulled the plug on the TV side. Offer was retracted and in came WWF

All that was left to pick up was Libraries, name and Contracts. It wasn't worth much tbh. Jericho even joked that he could have bought it for what WWF paid for it.

Basically what ended up as the brand extension in 2002 was being tested on Raw with WCW to see how the fans reacted. Once they knew, they were either going to scrap it or see they could work something.

I honestly doubt Vince would give his final 20 minutes of RAW to something with a WCW name if he wanted it to die....

eireannBEAR

Garseys wrote: »

Have you read Bischoffs book? Fusient Media Ventures tendered the offer for everything (and quite a healthy sum aswell). They were waiting for the all clear when TNT pulled the plug on the TV side. Offer was retracted and in came WWF

All that was left to pick up was Libraries, name and Contracts. It wasn't worth much tbh. Jericho even joked that he could have bought it for what WWF paid for it.

Basically what ended up as the brand extension in 2002 was being tested on Raw with WCW to see how the fans reacted. Once they knew, they were either going to scrap it or see they could work something.

I honestly doubt Vince would give his final 20 minutes of RAW to something with a WCW name if he wanted it to die....

its was a story line to benefit the wwe not for wcw to get its own show,yeah i remember fusient media inc i also remember bischoff claiming to have bought wcw a couple of weeks before the deal collapsed. i was absolutely devastated when wwe bought it.

the new head of TNT destroyed wcw cancelling it even though it was still one of their highest rated shows when it was dire.

i started watching it in the mid 90s i just couldnt switch to the wwe. wcw was aimed at adults where as by the time wcw ended the wwe was firmly aimed at kids.

ah its gone and its never coming back.

Garseys

eireannBEAR wrote: »

its was a story line to benefit the wwe not for wcw to get its own show.

Sorry I don't think i got my point across. it was always going to be something to benefit WWE like WWECW :pac:

Actually less said about that the better, sad memories

eireannBEAR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=v7Tp2cFkHQo

watch this and if you dont watch it all skip to the crowd end there is nothing like this today.

looder

My top 5 is probably

5 Glacier
4 Rey Mysterio
3 Goldberg
2 Dean Malenko
1 DDP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KikWIVx_ANs

Coutinho 10

Flying Brian Pillman vs Jushin Thunder Liger

The Great Muta (Green Mist) vs Anyone

These are my memories of early WCW.