Attempted Abduction of a child - Father lets the abductor walk

vicwatson

"The victim's father noticed she was missing, left a store and spotted the youngster being led around a corner into an alleyway by a man, who was holding her by the hand. He shouted out and ran up to his daughter, pulling her away from the man who then left the scene"

I'd have battered 7 shades of sh1te out of him and asked questions later..

Story in the Indo

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/man-sought-in-lanzarote-kidnap-case-29187401.html

Seachmall

When your child goes missing getting your child back and keeping them safe is presumably the priority.


Beating another man to death in front of them probably would be counterproductive in that instance.


Although I wouldn't be entirely opposed to to a bit of street justice.

vicwatson

Seachmall wrote: »

When your child goes missing getting your child back and keeping them safe is presumably the priority.


Beating another man to death in front of them probably would be counterproductive in that instance.


Although I wouldn't be entirely opposed to it.

I'd have my OH remove the child then batter the sh1te out of him:rolleyes:

I gather you've never actually been in that exact situation before, so therefore you know fcuk all about what you would do.

But hey, let's make out the Dad is the one in the wrong in this story, makes much more sense.

Nodin

He was probably in abject terror and not thinking straight.

sfwcork

the guy in the description sounds like marty whelen

Hanley

"Hero dad saves child from abductor"

But sure.. why worry bout facts.

anncoates

I can't be sure what I'd do in the shock (and relief) of the situation but I've a sinking feeling I'd do something stupid.

Is it something you want your child to see though? And battering somebody is actually more likely to get you in trouble than the would-be abducter.

To be honest, I hate these shoulda-woulda violence porn threads.

A Primal Nut

He didn't let the abductor walk. He took photos, called the police and there is a good chance of him being caught.

As for violently attacking him - did you think that maybe the abductor might be physically stronger than him?

hooradiation

vicwatson wrote: »

"The victim's father noticed she was missing, left a store and spotted the youngster being led around a corner into an alleyway by a man, who was holding her by the hand. He shouted out and ran up to his daughter, pulling her away from the man who then left the scene"

I'd have battered 7 shades of sh1te out of him and asked questions later..

Story in the Indo

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/man-sought-in-lanzarote-kidnap-case-29187401.html

Easy there Mr Mitty.
You know how this kind of excitement can set you off one your episodes.

Rasmus

The dad in question did exactly the right thing. He removed his daughter from the situation, and later secured photographic evidence of the abductor. Beating him up and going about the rest of your hols with a sense of satisfaction will not prevent a further child abduction crime from being comitted.

Lollipops23

I completely understand why he didn't immediately lay into him when he initially got his daughter back-relief and shock would render me a hysterical mess tbh!

Not sure why he didn't try to apprehend him later on at the beach-at least keep him in the one spot until police arrived! Unless the suspect was an imposing/threatening character....

anncoates

A Primal Nut wrote: »

As for violently attacking him - did you think that maybe the abductor might be physically stronger than him?

Good point.

God knows what would happen if the would be abducter beat you up instead and rendered you incapable of protecting your kid.

hardCopy

Attacking the abductor sounds a great idea until he wins the fight and leaves you on the floor watching him run off with your child.

Rasmus

hardCopy wrote: »

Attacking the abductor sounds a great idea until he wins the fight and leaves you on the floor watching him run off with your child.

+1k

HondaSami

A Primal Nut wrote: »

He didn't let the abductor walk. He took photos, called the police and there is a good chance of him being caught.

As for violently attacking him - did you think that maybe the abductor might be physically stronger than him?

''The family were on the beach a short time later and saw the same man, who spoke fluent English, sitting between some rocks and acting suspiciously.

The victim's father confronted the suspect, but he left the scene before police arrived. But the quick-thinking family took photos of the man, which have been released by police in an attempt to identify him''.

He did let him walk away at the time, it was later he seen him on the beach. My natural instinct would be to lash out at him at the time.

vicwatson

Deleted User wrote: »

I gather you've never actually been in that exact situation before, so therefore you know fcuk all about what you would do.

But hey, let's make out the Dad is the one in the wrong in this story, makes much more sense.

And you have? Tell us about it?

vicwatson

vicwatson wrote: »

And you have? Tell us about it?

Nope, I haven't, so I wouldn't have a clue how I would react, not a flippin iota.

HondaSami

anncoates wrote: »

Good point.

God knows what would happen if the would be abducter beat you up instead and rendered you incapable of protecting your kid.

hardCopy wrote: »

Attacking the abductor sounds a great idea until he wins the fight and leaves you on the floor watching him run off with your child.

Rasmus wrote: »

+1k

The child was safe when he seen him later on the beach, i think it would be natural for him to want to hold onto him until the police arrived and give him a few digs.

anncoates

HondaSami wrote: »

The child was safe when he seen him later on the beach, i think it would be natural for him to want to hold onto him until the police arrived and give him a few digs.

I think people were talking about during the initial abduction attempt.

SEPT 23 1989

After the initial relief of getting your daughter back subsided

then the beating would start

vicwatson

Deleted User wrote: »

Nope, I haven't, so I wouldn't have a clue how I would react, not a flippin iota.

I've been in horrendous situations though, most people's worst nightmare infact, and I reacted one particular way - someone else would most likely have acted entirely differently, but I certainly wouldn't call them out as being wrong.

Ah sure perhaps the abductor was making a mistake in taking the wrong child...not a chance......if I saw him walking off with my child there is only one thing going on....simples.....I'd ask questions later

anncoates

vicwatson wrote: »

Ah sure perhaps the abductor was making a mistake in taking the wrong child...not a chance......if I saw him walking off with my child there is only one thing going on....simples.....I'd ask questions later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PtvLTZS4Ik

LETHAL LADY

http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/uk/police-investigating-child-abduction-bid-on-lanzarote-issue-photo-of-man-1.83319

Link with photo of suspect.

vicwatson

vicwatson wrote: »

Ah sure perhaps the abductor was making a mistake in taking the wrong child...not a chance......if I saw him walking off with my child there is only one thing going on....simples.....I'd ask questions later

Who says the child wasn't being abducted?

You think you would react one way, think.

Noone knows how they would react in that situation except a person who as been in that situation, and even then - they only know how they would react which still gives them no idea how someone else would react.

You started a thread about a Dad not beating the crap out of a child abductor, not about the child abductor himself. That's just madness.

John the baptist

A few yearsback (I was about 17 at the time) I was in the local supermarket when I startednoticing a small child who was maybe 3 years old wandering on their own. It was probably the third time that I saw themthat I really started to look to see if there was anyone with the child but I couldn’tsee anyone looking for them in the aisle close. I tried to talk to the childasking is your mammy or daddy near but got no sense out of them so I decided I’dbring the child to the information/reception desk and get them to make anannouncement. Just as I was getting to the desk a man ran at me and grabbed upthe child and started roaring all sorts of abuse at me. I almost passed outwith embarrassment even though I was doing nothing wrong.

Luckily forme he didn’t get the notion to kick theshyte out of me..

vicwatson

Deleted User wrote: »

Who says the child wasn't being abducted?

You think you would react one way, think.

Noone knows how they would react in that situation except a person who as been in that situation, and even then - they only know how they would react which still gives them no idea how someone else would react.

You started a thread about a Dad not beating the crap out of a child abductor, not about the child abductor himself. That's just madness.

Rubbish, if I see a stranger walking off with my 3 year old, I'm not stopping to ask questions, this is how I would react....and I'll ask questions later. No one has aright to take someone else's child by the hand to lead them away from their parents....oh no...I'd be asking questions later.

Every parents nightmare to see this happen, and every parent has at least once thought about how they'd react in this situation.

Feel free to start your own thread about the child abductor;)

vicwatson

John the baptist wrote: »

A few yearsback (I was about 17 at the time) I was in the local supermarket when I startednoticing a small child who was maybe 3 years old wandering on their own. It was probably the third time that I saw themthat I really started to look to see if there was anyone with the child but I couldn’tsee anyone looking for them in the aisle close. I tried to talk to the childasking is your mammy or daddy near but got no sense out of them so I decided I’dbring the child to the information/reception desk and get them to make anannouncement. Just as I was getting to the desk a man ran at me and grabbed upthe child and started roaring all sorts of abuse at me. I almost passed outwith embarrassment even though I was doing nothing wrong.

Luckily forme he didn’t get the notion to kick theshyte out of me..

Yeh or even more lucky you didn't take them out of the shop and around the corner and up an alleyway away from their parents.

You'd have been in trouble then

Different situation altogether

Madam_X

vicwatson wrote: »

I'd have my OH remove the child then batter the sh1te out of him:rolleyes:

Was this guy's "OH" with him? And if the abductor did a legger lightning fast while you were getting your child back, then no you wouldn't. Do anything.

":rolleyes:"

Seachmall

vicwatson wrote: »

every parent has at least once thought about how they'd react in this situation.

Everybody has imagined how they'd react in a dangerous situation, or a violent one, or what they'd do when they see clear injustices done.

And everybody imagines, and hopes, that they'd do the right thing, that they'd fend off the attacker, that they'd help the victim and so on.

But not everybody does. Just because you imagine yourself to be Bruce Lee doesn't mean you are. You have no idea what emotions would over come you. You have no idea what your thought process would be. You have no idea how you'd react.

Imagination is great but using it as a basis to predict real world responses is foolish, and using it to judge others' reactions is prickish.

But of course you're unique. You do know how you'd react. Right?

vicwatson

vicwatson wrote: »

Rubbish, if I see a stranger walking off with my 3 year old, I'm not stopping to ask questions, this is how I would react....and I'll ask questions later. No one has aright to take someone else's child by the hand to lead them away....oh no...I'd be asking questions later.

Every parents nightmare to see this happen, and every parent has at least once thought about how they'd react in this situation.

I'll tell you what's rubbish; because you think you'd react this way, the way the father who was actually in the situation reacted was wrong.

If he had beaten the crap out the guy, I wouldn't for second think he was wrong, and I don't think what he did was wrong either. What's wrong, is someone making out he is a bad guy for not beating up the man.