What was the Farmer spreading yesterday?

whippet

I'm relatively new to rural living and I came home yesterday after a walk with the dog to find my freshly washed car covered in a fine light brown powder, the washing on the line was also covered and the windows of the house were covered. The missus said that the farmer in the adjacent field was spreading something which blew in the wind across the garden like a dust bowl.

The farmer had corn in that field last year and I am wondering what he was spreading yesterday .. as in will it damage the paintwork on my car or should I worry about the kids inhaling the stuff!!

Manoffeeling

Lime. Nothing to worry about. More bluish than brown.

whippet

Manoffeeling wrote: »

Lime. Nothing to worry about. More bluish than brown.

thats alright ... is this an annual thing they do or is it just every couple of years? would it have anything to do with the fact that the farmer yielded nothing from the crop last year?

whelan1

whippet wrote: »

thats alright ... is this an annual thing they do or is it just every couple of years? would it have anything to do with the fact that the farmer yielded nothing from the crop last year?

farmer probably soil tested and was probably told to spread lime, bad yield could have been down to this or the wonderful year we had last year, normally only every few years lime is spread, hth

jomoloney

sh1tstirrer wrote: »

SNIP.

looks like a genuine query to me, no doubt the jack asses will be along with sh1te smart ass comments

mf240

whippet wrote: »

thats alright ... is this an annual thing they do or is it just every couple of years? would it have anything to do with the fact that the farmer yielded nothing from the crop last year?

Lime is used to raise the ph of soil.

freedominacup

I have a suspicion he wasn't spreading anything and the "fine brown dust" you describe is simply that fine brown dust.

reilig

The line is drawn.
Its a busy time of year for farmers, working late, spreading, ploughing etc.
Naturally people are going to have questions if they aren't from a rural background.
If you can't answer their questions without trolling for an argument, saying something stupid, or being offensive, then don't post anything. Warnings have been issued. The next step is infractions and bans!


Be nice!

Reilig
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Tails142

It was most probably hydrated lime, it is corrosive and harmful if you inhale the dust so i would be washing the car and maybe washing the clothes again as contact with skin can cause irritation.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcium_hydroxide#section_4

Look up the MSDS for hydrated lime if you want all the info

reilig

Tails142 wrote: »

It was most probably hydrated lime, it is corrosive and harmful if you inhale the dust so i would be washing the car and maybe washing the clothes again as contact with skin can cause irritation.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcium_hydroxide#section_4

Look up the MSDS for hydrated lime if you want all the info

Someone else can confirm this, but I don't think farmers spread hydrated lime on land. They spread ground limestone which isn't corrosive and harmful like hydrated lime.

freedominacup

Tails142 wrote: »

It was most probably hydrated lime, it is corrosive and harmful if you inhale the dust so i would be washing the car and maybe washing the clothes again as contact with skin can cause irritation.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcium_hydroxide#section_4

Look up the MSDS for hydrated lime if you want all the info

Ahem Reilig. See above. BTW I'm going trolling now. Any rules about attacking the post etc gone.

freedominacup

Tails142 wrote: »

It was most probably hydrated lime, it is corrosive and harmful if you inhale the dust so i would be washing the car and maybe washing the clothes again as contact with skin can cause irritation.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcium_hydroxide#section_4

Look up the MSDS for hydrated lime if you want all the info

That is quite possibly the most stupid post I've ever seen. The farmer spent the day driving around his field in a cloud of hydrated lime dust? Are you for real? A little knowledge etc....

BTW when you were googling your little gem did you come up with a reason why the farmer might have been spreading hydrated lime on his land? Do you think he gets his jollies from it or something?

sh1tstirrer

Tails142 wrote: »

It was most probably hydrated lime, it is corrosive and harmful if you inhale the dust so i would be washing the car and maybe washing the clothes again as contact with skin can cause irritation.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcium_hydroxide#section_4

Look up the MSDS for hydrated lime if you want all the info

Ground limestone which is spread on land is not corrosive. Hydrated lime is not spread on land.

mf240

I like to see someone who has a genuine query like the OP to have their query dealt with and not to be smart to them.

But if someone is complaining about noise in a field can we PLEASE take the p1ss out of them?

knotknowbody

reilig wrote: »

Someone else can confirm this, but I don't think farmers spread hydrated lime on land. They spread ground limestone which isn't corrosive and harmful like hydrated lime.

Absolutely correct, hydrated lime would never be spread on land, hydrated lime is sometimes used as a disease control measure in animal housing, it can kill many bacteria that cause animals problems. Hydrated Lime is white in colour.

Crushed limestone is spread on land to raise the PH of the soil and therefore make the soil more friendly to the crop the farmer wishes to grow. Crushed limestone is brownish in colour

reilig

mf240 wrote: »

But if someone is complaining about noise in a field can we PLEASE take the p1ss out of them?

Na, we'll just delete the thread that they start.

I only have 100 free spaces in my email account and reported posts fill them up very fast!!

who the fug

Sahara look like a good bet, has already been mentioned on the boards here

whippet

cheers for that, nothing to worry about then. When should I expect the seeding to start? Also, is there a time of the year that farmers don't like people walking dogs in the fields? just to save a row !!

Tipp Man

whippet wrote: »

cheers for that, nothing to worry about then. When should I expect the seeding to start? Also, is there a time of the year that farmers don't like people walking dogs in the fields? just to save a row !!

The time of year to walk a dog on somebody elses land is NEVER

whippet

Tipp Man wrote: »

The time of year to walk a dog on somebody elses land is NEVER

why?

considering I've met the land owner / farmer in the pub plenty of times and he was warning me of some very soft parts of the field and to try and keep the dog away from them.

There are no livestock and the gun club use the lands for shooting during season.

Manoffeeling

whippet wrote: »

why?

considering I've met the land owner / farmer in the pub plenty of times and he was warning me of some very soft parts of the field and to try and keep the dog away from them.

There are no livestock and the gun club use the lands for shooting during season.

Dogs can carry a disease which can cause abortion. I can't think of the name of it. It begins with n or m. The experts here will tell you

Tipp Man

whippet wrote: »

why?

considering I've met the land owner / farmer in the pub plenty of times and he was warning me of some very soft parts of the field and to try and keep the dog away from them.

There are no livestock and the gun club use the lands for shooting during season.

The gun club have (probably) got permission to shoot and members are covered by the gun clubs insurance

Why don't you ask the farmer next time you see him down the pub when is the best time to use his field to walk your dog?? Really that is not a question that any of us can answer

Tipp Man

Manoffeeling wrote: »

Dogs can carry a disease which can cause abortion. I can't think of the name of it. It begins with n or m. The experts here will tell you

It's about bloody ownership rights

Nobody has the right to walk a dog or themselves on your land without permission

Manoffeeling

Tipp Man wrote: »

It's about bloody ownership rights

Nobody has the right to walk a dog or themselves on your land without permission

Agreed. But it's nice to be nice.

yellow50HX

whippet wrote: »

why?

considering I've met the land owner / farmer in the pub plenty of times and he was warning me of some very soft parts of the field and to try and keep the dog away from them.

There are no livestock and the gun club use the lands for shooting during season.

if you have permission from the land owner, are aware of any livestock, close any gates/fences afterwards and are able to control your dog then there is no issue.

as for the dust, it could well be ground lime as explained earlier or just dust. The land has been very dry in places over the last few weeks and the cold driving wind will pick up anything that has become airborne and blow it aroudn the place (like the margins of the roads). If the top layer of soil has been very dry then its get blown around during tilling operations, harrowing, seeeding, rolling and so on. its highly unlikely that anything dodgy has been spread.

Tipp Man

Manoffeeling wrote: »

Agreed. But it's nice to be nice.

That is up to each individual farmers discretion whether he lets people walk on his land on not

However people need to be aware this it is the farmers discretion and not their's

All well and good being nice till something happens and you have a legal case or insurance claim against you

whippet

Tipp Man wrote: »

It's about bloody ownership rights

Nobody has the right to walk a dog or themselves on your land without permission

and as I said before the farmer has no problem with people walking dogs on his land ... no need to get aggressive, I was asking if there was particular times of the when it wouldn't be a good time to walk the dog.

Everybody is different, some farmers are nice decent people, some are ignorant and cantankerous; while some dog owners are responsible and some are irresponsible.

whippet

yellow50HX wrote: »

as for the dust, it could well be ground lime as explained earlier or just dust. The land has been very dry in places over the last few weeks and the cold driving wind will pick up anything that has become airborne and blow it aroudn the place (like the margins of the roads). If the top layer of soil has been very dry then its get blown around during tilling operations, harrowing, seeeding, rolling and so on. its highly unlikely that anything dodgy has been spread.

he was using a spreader alright, by the sounds of it, it was lime. How long after spreading lime would you expect seeding to take place?

blue5000

whippet wrote: »

I'm relatively new to rural living and I came home yesterday after a walk with the dog to find my freshly washed car covered in a fine light brown powder, the washing on the line was also covered and the windows of the house were covered. The missus said that the farmer in the adjacent field was spreading something which blew in the wind across the garden like a dust bowl.

The farmer had corn in that field last year and I am wondering what he was spreading yesterday .. as in will it damage the paintwork on my car or should I worry about the kids inhaling the stuff!!

I think you have answered the question there, it was probably just dust/soil kicked up by the seeder/ harrow and blown on to your property by the wind.

Tipp Man

whippet wrote: »

and as I said before the farmer has no problem with people walking dogs on his land ... no need to get aggressive, I was asking if there was particular times of the when it wouldn't be a good time to walk the dog.

Everybody is different, some farmers are nice decent people, some are ignorant and cantankerous; while some dog owners are responsible and some are irresponsible.

So would you call somebody who would not allow you to walk yourself and your dog ignorant and cantankerous??

Manoffeeling

Tipp Man wrote: »

So would you call somebody who would not allow you to walk yourself and your dog ignorant and cantankerous??

:rolleyes:

Tipp Man

Manoffeeling wrote: »

:rolleyes:

What exactly is that response supposed to mean, If you have something to say then say it

whippet

Tipp Man wrote: »

So would you call somebody who would not allow you to walk yourself and your dog ignorant and cantankerous??

I wouldn't; however; I would call someone who assumes that everyone thinks like themselves and feels that being accommodating / friendly to your neighbour is something to be avoided at all costs.

Manoffeeling

Tipp Man wrote: »

What exactly is that response supposed to mean, If you have something to say then say it

I think you are ever reacting and also being a little bit angry for some reason. Enjoy the sun

delaval

You can walk my land whenever you please. I would suggest keeping clear of livestock especially cows and calves

Tipp Man

Manoffeeling wrote: »

I think you are ever reacting and also being a little bit angry for some reason. Enjoy the sun

Over reacting is it?

Would you call a bill of over €7,000 for repairs to people's gardens because some walker had left a gate open after being in there without permission as over reacting?

Would you call half a pit of silage destroyed by a neighbours dog as over reacting? And then the same dog destroyed a load of silage bales the following year? And not so much as a red cent from the neighbour

Would you call being reported to the county council for pollution after letting a fella fish on our land as over reacting?? (luckily he was an idiot and council were more than happy)

whelan1

jeeny i go out and do some work and come back to this..............:eek: maybe there should be a sticky or something where the non farming people can ask questions

bbam

TBH it's a pity to see people being cut with smart replies when they ask questions.
Even when they seem to think they can walk over land without permissions, we should aim to educate them on the particular etiquette regarding these matters.

Better an educated neighbour than bad feeling which rarely ever gets sorted.

freedominacup

whelan1 wrote: »

jeeny i go out and do some work and come back to this..............:eek: maybe there should be a sticky or something where the non farming people can ask questions

I don't know whether that's great minds thinking alike or fools seldom differing, but that idea was running with me also.

Manoffeeling

Tipp Man wrote: »

Over reacting is it?

Would you call a bill of over €7,000 for repairs to people's gardens because some walker had left a gate open after being in there without permission as over reacting?

Would you call half a pit of silage destroyed by a neighbours dog as over reacting? And then the same dog destroyed a load of silage bales the following year? And not so much as a red cent from the neighbour

Would you call being reported to the county council for pollution after letting a fella fish on our land as over reacting?? (luckily he was an idiot and council were more than happy)

Shoot the dog if it sets foot in your yard. Put chain and padlock on gates. Put up 'No Trespassing' signs. You are right, I wouldn't be happy if that happened to me, I would feel a right fool for letting it happen twice.

yellow50HX

Tipp Man wrote: »

Over reacting is it?

Would you call a bill of over €7,000 for repairs to people's gardens because some walker had left a gate open after being in there without permission as over reacting?

Would you call half a pit of silage destroyed by a neighbours dog as over reacting? And then the same dog destroyed a load of silage bales the following year? And not so much as a red cent from the neighbour

Would you call being reported to the county council for pollution after letting a fella fish on our land as over reacting?? (luckily he was an idiot and council were more than happy)

i wouldnt call it over reacting but the key thing here is "permission". If you ask for it and the farmer gives it to you then he/she thinks your capable of respecting the farm.

i wouldnt let a complete stranger wander across our place (ask the local hunt i met them on thier horse's on the home place a while back, they wont be round these parts in hurry again), but we do have the local foot beagles and some locals shooter around every winter and they will also almost always come round before to let us know where they will be be and always ask to know where the cattle are so as not to distrub them.

Tipp Man

Manoffeeling wrote: »

Shoot the dog if it sets foot in your yard. Put chain and padlock on gates. Put up 'No Trespassing' signs. You are right, I wouldn't be happy if that happened to me, I would feel a right fool for letting it happen twice.

yet again the irony of your username shines through

freedominacup

yellow50HX wrote: »

i wouldnt call it over reacting but the key thing here is "permission". If you ask for it and the farmer gives it to you then he/she thinks your capable of respecting the farm.

i wouldnt let a complete stranger wander across our place (ask the local hunt i met them on thier horse's on the home place a while back, they wont be round these parts in hurry again), but we do have the local foot beagles and some locals shooter around every winter and they will also almost always come round before to let us know where they will be be and always ask to know where the cattle are so as not to distrub them.

We get on well with the local gun club They are very active. More than happy to do pest control throughout the spring and summer ( they call it training). They actively patrol their preserves throughout the hunting season so we have very few strangers walking with dogs during the season. One of the neighbours regularly walks to work across our place he crosses 3 other farms on his way also never an issue. I'd be a long way from any form of blanket permission though.

Massey10

whippet wrote: »

thats alright ... is this an annual thing they do or is it just every couple of years? would it have anything to do with the fact that the farmer yielded nothing from the crop last year?

how do you know it yielded nothing .

Massey10

Manoffeeling wrote: »

Shoot the dog if it sets foot in your yard. Put chain and padlock on gates. Put up 'No Trespassing' signs. You are right, I wouldn't be happy if that happened to me, I would feel a right fool for letting it happen twice.

do you thinkputting up a sign will work

whippet

Massey10 wrote: »

how do you know it yielded nothing .

the corn was left in the field practically rotting until halloween and then the whole lot chopped on the 1st November.

Massey10

whippet wrote: »

the corn was left in the field practically rotting until halloween and then the whole lot chopped on the 1st November.

when you say corn do you mean the corn on the cob

Conmaicne Mara

Massey10 wrote: »

do you thinkputting up a sign will work

I can tell you it doesn't. People lose the ability to read or become extremely near sighted in the vicinity of signage.



A thread for non farming folk to ask questions about farming sounds like a great idea.

Massey10

A thread for non farming folk to ask questions about farming sounds like a great idea.[/QUOTE]
I bet the two of them come from the us

freedominacup

whippet wrote: »

the corn was left in the field practically rotting until halloween and then the whole lot chopped on the 1st November.

Maize?

whippet

freedominacup wrote: »

Maize?

it was; in my very limited knowledge of crops the state of the crops was very much rotten