Harry Reynolds Memorial:Sat 6th April

bcmf

No thread on it yet so may as well get it started.
Linky -> http://www.balbriggancc.ie/race-weekend-2013.html

Starts at 4 on a bastard of a circuit. Mostly flat with a pox of a climb at the end and disaster corner just before it.
Tea,Coffee,Sambo's and BBQ in till the early hours of Sunday Beasty's Demense afterwards.

GlennaMaddy

Change of circuit this year, some pretty crap roads and blind chicane (at the foot of a descent) added. pity because the old circuit was great.

bcmf

Yeah Glen just noticed that change of circuit. Thats a tough circuit!
Although from KM6 to KM7 has been resurfaced (as I was up there last week) which is a good job as its a long fast slightly downhill section.

Beasty

They've turned that into a nightmare of a course. It's longer which may help the handicaps, but the approach up to Man 'O War is a lousy bit of road, and that "chicane" is lethal, coming at the bottom of a fast descent.

Think I'll be out with the camera rather than bike on Saturday

bcmf

Beasty wrote: »

and that "chicane" is lethal, coming at the bottom of a fast descent.

Agree totally.There will be carnage at that corner/bend.

Beasty

bcmf wrote: »

Agree totally.There will be carnage at that corner/bend.

I find those bends scary enough when on my own - you can easily get over 60kph on the descent but would have to reduce to less than 30 to get round those bends (and even then you're cutting across the first one)

lennymc

anyone got a strava for the suffering routes?

RobFowl

bcmf wrote: »

No thread on it yet so may as well get it started.
Linky -> http://www.balbriggancc.ie/race-weekend-2013.html

Starts at 4 on a bastard of a circuit. Mostly flat with a pox of a climb at the end and disaster corner just before it.
Tea,Coffee,Sambo's and BBQ in till the early hours of Sunday Beasty's Demense afterwards.

Isn't that the descent when you couldn't keep up with me crashed "came off in appalling conditions" a few years ago???

RobFowl

Beasty wrote: »

They've turned that into a nightmare of a course. It's longer which may help the handicaps, but the approach up to Man 'O War is a lousy bit of road, and that "chicane" is lethal, coming at the bottom of a fast descent.

Think I'll be out with the camera rather than bike on Saturday

Any thoughts I had of doing that now shelved.....

Beasty

I can't imagine there's a Strava segment for the full circuit, but the segment with the chicane was removed as hazardous - a guy was almost killed in a collision with a motor vehicle there a couple of years ago

RobFowl

Beasty wrote: »

I can't imagine there's a Strava segment for the full circuit, but the segment with the chicane was removed as hazardous - a guy was almost killed in a collision with a motor vehicle there a couple of years ago

We used that segment as part of a club race circuit some years ago and it was frightening. Almost impossible to stay on the left side of the road at speed.

morana

is it turn left after the pub down the worst descent in ireland and left to main road back up to the pub?

I loved this raced never had much success in it but it was a super fast race all the drags big ring.

Beasty

Beasty wrote: »

I can't imagine there's a Strava segment for the full circuit

... there should hopefully be one up later this evening

(assuming I slow down quickly enough on the descent;))

detones

Must pop up and have a look at this as its on my doorstep. Would be concerened about the use of Darcystown Road (From 6 to 7), unless its been resurfaced lately the last time went down there i struggled .........and i was in the car!

bcmf

Just back from 2 recce laps where I came across a big lank of a Yorkshire lad (who went into great detail about how intends to single handeldly pull us out of recession) who was doing a strava for it.
Came across 2 Marshalls sweeping the corner at km6 who smiled and said ' its not as easy as last year'
A very tough circuit and I would have serious concerns about the chicane as the inside line is unrideable. A fast moving bunch coming through there is asking for trouble.

bcmf

RobFowl wrote: »

Isn't that the descent when you couldn't keep up with me crashed "came off in appalling conditions" a few years ago???

Yes. Thats the one. It happened right after we stopped and I took your advice to let some air outta my tyres. The only way you can keep up with me on a descent is by forcing me to crash.

Beasty

Beasty wrote: »

... there should hopefully be one up later this evening

There you go
Not the right start/finish, but there is a tree in the middle of the road at the right turn before the junction where the segment does start!

bcmf wrote: »

A very tough circuit and I would have serious concerns about the chicane as the inside line is unrideable. A fast moving bunch comin g through there is asking for trouble.

Particularly as there is a pothole right in the middle of the first bend

lennymc

Ah, the tree in the road. Part of the killalane road race circuit? Only in ireland could u have a tree in the middle of the track

Beasty

lennymc wrote: »

Ah, the tree in the road. Part of the killalane road race circuit? Only in ireland could u have a tree in the middle of the track

Yep - Carney's Tree

bcmf

lennymc wrote: »

Ah, the tree in the road. Part of the killalane road race circuit? Only in ireland could u have a tree in the middle of the track

The thing about that is ,in reality , in order for a group to get through safely they will have to go on the wrong side of the road.

colm_gti

Is it just me or is 4pm a pretty late start?

bcmf

Just You.

Beasty

colm_gti wrote: »

Is it just me or is 4pm a pretty late start?

It was the same time last year IIRC, but around lunchtime the year before that

I think it's aimed at minimising recovery time for the really tough races on Sunday

colm_gti

Not that the late start would put me off massively, depending on how I'm fixed I might do both of them.

Will there be a restriction on numbers if the road is as bad as ye say?

lennymc

im hoping to get dropped take part in both of them

GlennaMaddy

detones wrote: »

...Would be concerened about the use of Darcystown Road (From 6 to 7), unless its been resurfaced lately

It has been dressed, not too bad -just bumpy. Road is in ****e just after 6 though

buffalo

Beasty wrote: »

It's now the Swords GP course with an extra bit bringing you to the finish climbing the Nag's Head from the north.

oh, so it's not as climby? Got a map of the new course at all? I enjoyed last year's edition, although it was only my second or third race so wasn't really able for the pace. Was looking forward to making a go of it this year, but maybe I'll save the powder for Stamullen.

Plan was to do some track stuff on Saturday, and skip the Harry Reynolds (reinforced by the danger comments above), and lash through the Ben McKenna.

killalanerr

Anyone know why Ollie and the boys decided to change everything,the weekend particularly the harry was getting to be one of the irish classics ?

manwithaplan

Heard they were having a hard time with the local constabulary but that mightn't have anything to do with it.

Wishbone Ash

Beasty wrote: »

Particularly as there is a pothole right in the middle of the first bend

There was a FCC road crew up at the Palmerstown section this morning half-heartly throwing tarmac into holes. They didn't seem to have a whacker plate with them (a few pats with the back of a shovel instead) with the result that half the fill was being dragged up by passing traffic.

Beasty

Relevant posts moved to the Ben McKenna/Jazzer Wherity thread

pprendeville

Smashing day for this. Hope I picked the right one to Marshall and its as nice tomorrow.

CramCycle

Won't make it out today, only got out of work at 8am this morning so I am ballsed. Hope it goes well for anyone who can make it out, looks like a great day.

Kammerweg

Is the circuit for Sundays race the same as for Saturday can anyone confirm, thanks

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Beasty

Kammerweg wrote: »

Is the circuit for Sundays race the same as for Saturday can anyone confirm, thanks

See the thread linked 3 posts above yours for the thread covering Sunday's races (including map!)

Beasty

Javan Nulty takes the spoils:



Looks like Craig Sweetman 2nd and Paul Kennedy 3rd

wav1

Beasty great shot and a great win for Nulty.In my opinion he should have been elsewhere today like the U23 Flanders.Has better form than most of the team that went.Also he's only 20 this year and has this year and 2 more as an U23.Cant understand why he wasn't considered to be honest.

morana

wav1 wrote: »

Beasty great shot and a great win for Nulty.In my opinion he should have been elsewhere today like the U23 Flanders.Has better form than most of the team that went.Also he's only 20 this year and has this year and 2 more as an U23.Cant understand why he wasn't considered to be honest.

there is always a reason!

(Ps i dont know what it is at the moment though)

Wishbone Ash

A few pics:

wav1

morana wrote: »

there is always a reason!

(Ps i dont know what it is at the moment though)

Have a fair idea tbh but he has stepped up this year.This is his 3rd win in the past 3 weeks.Just think he's ''outside the radar'' at the moment and it does no harm to throw in a little reminder.Thats all.

morana

wav1 wrote: »

Have a fair idea tbh but he has stepped up this year.This is his 3rd win in the past 3 weeks.Just think he's ''outside the radar'' at the moment and it does no harm to throw in a little reminder.Thats all.

he will be back on radar on Monday I assure you

buffalo

Beasty wrote: »

Javan Nulty takes the spoils:

Looks like Craig Sweetman 2nd and Paul Kennedy 3rd

Do I spy 1750W in there too?

12 sprocket

wav1 Harry
Reynolds race 50k Versus 169km gruelling kilometres of the Tour of Flanders U23 edition. not such a great comparison is it?
I do agree that Javan is riding well though.

wav1

12 sprocket wrote: »

wav1 Harry
Reynolds race 50k Versus 169km gruelling kilometres of the Tour of Flanders U23 edition. not such a great comparison is it?
I do agree that Javan is riding well though.

Wasn't making any comparisons between the races.
Just saying that in fairness to the rider he has better form than certainly a few of the lads who did go.And he did very well over many gruelling kilometres in ras mumhan.Just think that sometimes riders just go unnoticed,but in fairness to morana,id say he will be back in the loop soon.

MichealD

Javan Nulty is in great form and looks a great prospect for the future. Those U23 races are serious events though and if he's just turned 20 I doubt a Tour of Flanders would do him any favours. Throwing riders in at the deep end can work well for some and cause big issues for others. Great to have good riders pushing for places.

wav1

MichealD wrote: »

Javan Nulty is in great form and looks a great prospect for the future. Those U23 races are serious events though and if he's just turned 20 I doubt a Tour of Flanders would do him any favours. Throwing riders in at the deep end can work well for some and cause big issues for others. Great to have good riders pushing for places.

Javan is a 2nd yr senior ie he is 20 this year
3 of the Irish team today are first yr seniors ie 19 this yr
2 are 2nd year senior as is Javan,so I dont see the logic there tbh.
I also agree its great to be looking AT riders rather than looking FOR them,but I just feel with the form he has at present,and the winter training in warmer climates he at least should be in the mix for these teams.He def has stepped up a notch.

RobFowl

wav1 wrote: »

Javan is a 2nd yr senior ie he is 20 this year
3 of the Irish team today are first yr seniors ie 19 this yr
2 are 2nd year senior as is Javan,so I dont see the logic there tbh.
I also agree its great to be looking AT riders rather than looking FOR them,but I just feel with the form he has at present,and the winter training in warmer climates he at least should be in the mix for these teams.He def has stepped up a notch.

Suppose he will have to try going abroad to get the right level of attention

shaungil

Enuf about Javan. any reports how was the new course?

GlennaMaddy

New course wasn't as bad as I had feared, tough but not a pure climbers course , new uphill finish was more uphill than the uphill finish that shuangil might remember before he hung up his wheels