What the hell is wrong with some people??

Blondie919

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-21974375

14 year old girl raped in a moving bus in Glasgow.

Why did none of the other passengers at least ring the police? How could you NOT know if someone is being raped??

Blondie919

Blondie919 wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-21974375

14 year old girl raped in a moving bus in Glasgow.

Why did none of the other passengers at least ring the police? How could you NOT know if someone is being raped??

She was upstairs, and when people downstairs were alerted they intervened. Maybe it all happened very quickly from there on and in an atmosphere of intimidation and threat people didn't react as quickly as they should have.

Poor kid. I hope they're caught.

judgefudge

If you read the article it says once her friend alerted people they reacted and helped the girl. Got her off the bus and waited with her for another bus.

Horrible thing to happen but OP is misleading.

Blondie919

judgefudge wrote: »

If you read the article it says once her friend alerted people they reacted and helped the girl. Got her off the bus and waited with her for another bus.

Horrible thing to happen but OP is misleading.

I did read it, it says the two men were using crude and lewd language to other passengers. Were all these other passengers in the deck below? I doubt if these two idiots were using that kind of language in an otherwise empty top deck.

hoodwinked

as awful as what happened her is,

what were two 14 year olds doing on a bus at 10.30pm at night unsupervised? :eek:

paulmclaughlin

Blondie919 wrote: »

I did read it, it says the two men were using crude and lewd language to other passengers. Were all these other passengers in the deck below? I doubt if these two idiots were using that kind of language in an otherwise empty top deck.

Read it again. They were kicked off the bus for a later incident, so that must have been it.

suicide_circus

hoodwinked wrote: »

as awful as what happened her is,

what were two 14 year olds doing on a bus at 10.30pm at night unsupervised? :eek:

Ah come on now, shes 14 not 4

WhatNowForUs?

hoodwinked wrote: »

as awful as what happened her is,

what were two 14 year olds doing on a bus at 10.30pm at night unsupervised? :eek:

The parents may have thought that the children were on a sleep over is somebody elses house

smcgiff

suicide_circus wrote: »

Ah come on now, shes 14 not 4

Yes, because she was clearly safe

suicide_circus

smcgiff wrote: »

Yes, because she was clearly safe

Perhaps she should have been wrapped in bubble wrap and kept in a bank vault?

Mr. Manager

smcgiff wrote: »

Yes, because she was clearly safe

How pissed would you have been if your parents said you couldn't use the bus at the age of 14?

WhatNowForUs?

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

How pissed would you have been if your parents said you couldn't use the bus at the age of 14?

at 10;30 pm

Prodigious

When the other passengers were alerted, how the hell did the rapists escape? If it was Dublin bus they'd be beaten to death, and rightly so.

hoodwinked

suicide_circus wrote: »

Ah come on now, shes 14 not 4

at 14 i was just allowed to the nearest shopping center during the day, never mind in the dark of night and a bus journey away from home.

my be home time was also 10 o clock in the summer, as my mother used say "you have no business being outside at that hour"


and she was right, nothing good ever came of those children hanging around late at night.


this was in the spring when it would have been dark at that hour.

Celly Smunt

Ah sure feck it,lets just blame the parents for their daughters rape.

SB2013

What is wrong with the passengers? They took the girl off the bus and waited for another one? Oh wow, well done to them. Did nobody think to tell the bus driver there were two rapists upstairs who had just raped a young girl and he should call the police?

Mr. Manager

WhatNowForUs? wrote: »

at 10;30 pm

She was going home. How else was she to get home? Taxi? Walk?

Surely her parents felt she was old enough to ride the bus home at 10:30 at night with her friend.

judgefudge

Blondie919 wrote: »

I did read it, it says the two men were using crude and lewd language to other passengers. Were all these other passengers in the deck below? I doubt if these two idiots were using that kind of language in an otherwise empty top deck.

It's likely that the top deck was empty, particularly at that time of night. Nobody knew what was going on until her friend went upstairs to talk to her. They later got thrown off the bus for lewd behaviour, presumably they went downstairs. I do find it strange that nobody tried to apprehend the men and ring the police. But obviously it is being dealt with.

Edit: I thought the guys were being charged. Yeah somebody should have tried to apprehend them or at least tell the driver.

hoodwinked

Prodigious wrote: »

When the other passengers were alerted, how the hell did the rapists escape? If it was Dublin bus they'd be beaten to death, and rightly so.

the two involved were kicked off the bus later on (after midnight) for a different unruly behaviour.

WhatNowForUs?

pmcmahon wrote: »

Ah sure feck it,lets just blame the parents for their daughters rape.

I'd blame the rapists first.

Mr. Manager

hoodwinked wrote: »

at 14 i was just allowed to the nearest shopping center during the day, never mind in the dark of night and a bus journey away from home.

my be home time was also 10 o clock in the summer, as my mother used say "you have no business being outside at that hour"


and she was right, nothing good ever came of those children hanging around late at night.


this was in the spring when it would have been dark at that hour.

What? My curfew was 11 when I was that age. What was different about that extra hour I was out and you were in bed? Nothing happened after 10 that didn't happen before...

hoodwinked

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

What? My curfew was 11 when I was that age. What was different about that extra hour I was out and you were in bed? Nothing happened after 10 that didn't happen before...

and you were allowed be anywhere including a bus ride away at that age? :eek:

Celly Smunt

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

What? My curfew was 11 when I was that age. What was different about that extra hour I was out and you were in bed? Nothing happened after 10 that didn't happen before...

did you not know you were 100% more likely for nothing good to come of you for staying out for that extra hour.

Grayson

hoodwinked wrote: »

at 14 i was just allowed to the nearest shopping center during the day, never mind in the dark of night and a bus journey away from home.

my be home time was also 10 o clock in the summer, as my mother used say "you have no business being outside at that hour"


and she was right, nothing good ever came of those children hanging around late at night.


this was in the spring when it would have been dark at that hour.

Despite the current story, and ignoring nightlinks, a bus is pretty safe. This is the only time I've ever heard of anything like this on a bus in a country like ireland or england.

I guess what happened was she was upstairs alone with them. the attack happened. he friend came up and alerted the other passangers. The girls go off. the girls got onto another bus, the police were called and met them after they got off the second bus.

I'm not sure why the bus driver wasn't alerted. And the reason they were kicked off for a later disturbance is because either a) someone got on and went upstairs. b) the guys went downstairs or c) they caused enough noise and damage whilst still alone that the bus driver who was downstairs heard about it.

Hope the scum are caught.

Mr. Manager

hoodwinked wrote: »

and you were allowed be anywhere including a bus ride away at that age? :eek:

2 bus rides away some nights. Lived in Clontarf (Dublin) and hung out in Ayrfield. I don't get your point of what amount of distance has been travelled?

hoodwinked

pmcmahon wrote: »

did you not know you were 100% more likely for nothing good to come of you for staying out for that extra hour.

i never said 100% my point is 14 is still a child,

mikom

Was this the bus to Yoker?

Mr. Manager

hoodwinked wrote: »

i never said 100% my point is 14 is still a child,

No it's not. A clue is in the word itself.

WhatNowForUs?

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

She was going home. How else was she to get home? Taxi? Walk?

Surely her parents felt she was old enough to ride the bus home at 10:30 at night with her friend.

Well if I believe 10:30 is to late for 14 year olds to be out which I do then I'd expect them to be home earlier.
Obviously the parents don't agree with me if they were ok with the girls to be coming home at that time and that's their prerogative but I think there are dangers involved with children being out at that time.

jeziorski

LOL, i have never heared about similar situation in Poland. So badass, everybody should draw conclusions...

hoodwinked

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

No it's not. A clue is in the word itself.

so you are saying if the guys get caught they won't be arrested for raping a child?


because she's a teenager that makes it different?


or is it

14 = Teenager = allowed wander the streets at 10.30pm

14 = child = courts treat them as such....


which is it im getting confused?

Rayne Wooney

hoodwinked wrote: »

and you were allowed be anywhere including a bus ride away at that age? :eek:

It's such a normal thing now to see <17 year olds on the last but home at half 11(?) coming home from teenage discos.

hoodwinked

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

It's such a normal thing now to see <17 year olds on the last but home at half 11(?) coming home from teenage discos.

i always find that funny, they have to be out of pubs at 9pm but can wander the streets with worse well after 10.

rox5

Blondie919 wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-21974375

14 year old girl raped in a moving bus in Glasgow.

Why did none of the other passengers at least ring the police? How could you NOT know if someone is being raped??

Jesus, you can't even ride a public bus without being attacked. It feels like nothing is safe these days...

Scum.

I can't believe that there was no CCTV on the bus, that would be incomprehensible in Dublin.

Mr. Manager

hoodwinked wrote: »

so you are saying if the guys get caught they won't be arrested for raping a child?


because she's a teenager that makes it different?


or is it

14 = Teenager = allowed wander the streets at 10.30pm

14 = child = courts treat them as such....


which is it im getting confused?

If you were 14 and someone called you a child would you have just accepted it? No, you'd have said you were a teenager.

Just because the courts deem you a child doesn't mean you are one.

They say that 17 years old is a child. Do you agree with that?

herisson

What I don't understand about this story is the fact that no one thought to call the police or tell the bus driver. They let the 2 men stay on the bus, waiting for them to be kicked off further along the route for a separate incident. Surely they should have alerted the driver and police and not let them off the bus until the police came.

And why did the girl go up by herself and the friend follow up later?

Bob_Latchford

Pixie-Fairy wrote: »

What I don't understand about this story is the fact that no one thought to call the police or tell the bus driver. They let the 2 men stay on the bus, waiting for them to be kicked off further along the route for a separate incident. Surely they should have alerted the driver and police and not let them off the bus until the police came.

And why did the girl go up by herself and the friend follow up later?

None of this story makes any sense

discus

There was a really odd air in Glasgow all last week. It can have its rough moments and locations, but even in the central city there were a lot more groups of rough lads kicking off early in the day, hassling people on streets and pubs.

zom

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

How pissed would you have been if your parents said you couldn't use the bus at the age of 14?

What you say clearly shows that you don't have argument against youngsters not beinig alone in a bus at 10:30PM. No more discussion needed IMO.

Mr. Manager

zom wrote: »

What you say clearly shows that you don't have argument against youngsters not beinig alone in a bus at 10:30PM. No more discussion needed IMO.

What?

herisson

zom wrote: »

What you say clearly shows that you don't have argument against youngsters not beinig alone in a bus at 10:30PM. No more discussion needed IMO.

No what he said in that quote was how pissed you would have been, not your parents.

Mr. Manager

Pixie-Fairy wrote: »

No what he said in that quote was how pissed you would have been, not your parents.

Still trying to figure out what exactly his point was or what he is trying to say

purplecow1977

How come she went upstairs if she was originally sitting downstairs? Why would someone go upstairs and leave their friend downstairs?
Why were they only dejected from the bus at 12.30 when they were on it from 10.30?

Blondie919

purplecow1977 wrote: »

How come she went upstairs if she was originally sitting downstairs? Why would someone go upstairs and leave their friend downstairs?
Why were they only dejected from the bus at 12.30 when they were on it from 10.30?

I was wondering about that too. The attack happened around 10.30 but they were not kicked off the bus till 2 hours later. Something very wrong with that.

purplecow1977

I was also thinking that what bus journey takes 2 hours around Glasgow?! Maybe I'm naive.

Teyla Emmagan

I volunteer with a lot of girls aged around 14. They're very vulnerable at that stage. Really small and slight most of them. That's far too late for two girls that age to be out, she wouldn't have had a hope. Poor kid

smcgiff

purplecow1977 wrote: »

How come she went upstairs if she was originally sitting downstairs? Why would someone go upstairs and leave their friend downstairs?
Why were they only dejected from the bus at 12.30 when they were on it from 10.30?

It could be as simple as a kid liking to be on the top deck for the fun of it. Innocent 14 year old fun.:(

Gee_G

hoodwinked wrote: »

at 14 i was just allowed to the nearest shopping center during the day, never mind in the dark of night and a bus journey away from home.

my be home time was also 10 o clock in the summer, as my mother used say "you have no business being outside at that hour"


and she was right, nothing good ever came of those children hanging around late at night.


this was in the spring when it would have been dark at that hour.

Yeah we were the same, 10 o clock home time for us. But we were always within walking distance! I'd say it might have been even earlier if we had to bus it home!(but maybe that's just because of all the Garda presence in my family )

Anyway, whatever time it was, shouldn't have happened and it could have been dealt with a whole lot better! Poor girl.

Greenmachine

smcgiff wrote: »

It could be as simple as a kid liking to be on the top deck for the fun of it. Innocent 14 year old fun.:(

Or she could have known the perpertrators. All we can do is guess about what happened. It won't help the girl in any case.

Spunge

fúckin scots when will they get out of the middle ages. we should invade there next, fúck north korea