How can I fix this?

angeldaisy

Went to switch on my pc and this is what has come up on the screen, its an advent PC with a samsung monitor





can anyone help?

riclad

Remove the ethernet cable,from pc lan port,
pc should just boot up into windows straight away.
otherwise ,just wait 2 or 3 minutes ,while it allocates the pc an ip adress.
MY Laptop does the same thing,
takes 2mins to set up ip adress.
then put in cable, AFTER windows loads up.
or try options below.

riclad

see
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/hardware-discussion-support/147292-slow-boot-due-dhcp.html

quote
t click on My Computer and then select Manage.

Now double click on Services and Applications

Now double click on Services

Scroll down to DHCP Client

Notice that it likely is set to Automatic

Right click on it and select Properties

In Start Up type, change it to Manual.

Exit out with the OKs and reboot.


or quote,

o add to Dyres suggestion, I would also look at something else.

To me it sounds like one of 2 things: 1) the network card is listed as a bootable item in the bios, or 2) the network cards onboard bootrom got reset some how.

For number 1 it's pretty easy. Just go into the bios, and look for the bootup options. If there, remove the network card from the boot order, or at the very least move it to be the last device.



see bios,advanced,boot ,boot order,

set network card,last, last device to boot.

hd =first device= hardrive

hard drive 1 =device 1

Torqay

Disable LAN boot in the BIOS

riclad

AS above ,remove lan network,device ,from the boot order list

network boot =lan.

druidhill

My gut reaction to that message is that it seems likely that your hard drive is not being picked up by the system anymore. If you did not make any changes to your computer recently (in BIOS or physically inside the computer), this could spell trouble for you.

Some things to consider:

Did any other message come up on-screen before this (like the SYSTEM DATE is wrong)? Usually this points to a CMOS battery issue. The boot order may have reset back to a different order, or the hard drive options were not auto-detected (highly unlikely unless we're talking an ancient system) as a result.

The cable connecting the hard drive has become unseated at either end. Or even the power cable connecting to it (both highly unlikely if you were not tinkering inside the computer).

riclad

I have same problem,
it sets ip adress for lan card,
eg black screen, dhcp setting, spinning circle,
after 2 minutes , it loads up windows.
IE i dont think its a problem with your drive,
if your drive loads up windows normally, after 3-4 minutes.
ITS simply wrong boot order ,
eg boot is set to lan first,
Before hd 0, hardrive.

i presume windows loads up after 3 minutes.

angeldaisy

it doesnt go into windows, it just says disk boot failure insert system disk and press enter.

the only problem Ive had with it is the last couple of days it has kept restarting itself after being shut down.

its probably about 2 yrs old and I've not done anything else with it.

riclad

REboot ,go to bios,
eg press del,or f2, or f10,
eg function key with 2 on it.

Can you see any hardrive info, bios ,advanced, options,
eg boot order,
boot device hd , seatgate 560hj.
or drive mentioned on bios bootup screen,
eg ram, 500meg,
dvdrw sony,
seagate 560hj.
WHAT del pc is it ? eg advent 430gn

angeldaisy

riclad wrote: »

REboot ,go to bios,
eg press del,or f2, or f10,
eg function key with 2 on it.

Can you see any hardrive info, bios ,advanced, options,
eg boot order,
boot device hd , seatgate 560hj.
or drive mentioned on bios bootup screen,
eg ram, 500meg,
dvdrw sony,
seagate 560hj.
WHAT del pc is it ? eg advent 430gn

It wont let me press anything other than enter.
The model is SE2104

riclad

Turn on pc, press delete key, repeatedly ,
After 12 seconds bios menu should appear.

angeldaisy

riclad wrote: »

Turn on pc, press delete key, repeatedly ,
After 12 seconds bios menu should appear.

ive managed to get into that what do I need to do now?

riclad

GO to options ,boot.
or options advanced,
boot,options,
do you see boot,
hd0,
hd1,

hd= model no,hard disk,
seagate,sony ,wd546kl,

SET hd0= first bootdevice,=hard disk
hd 1 = second boot device.

set lan= last boot device,

or just post here,
all boot devices listed.

riclad

OR POST photo,
all boot devices listed.


also first bios screen,
with hard disk info.ram info. cpu info.

angeldaisy

this is what I can see now

riclad

USE arrow keys,go to boot ,menu,
hard disk, press enter ,
what do you see.?

riclad

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/tutorials/l-lpic1101/fig3.gif

look thru menus,BIOS,
system,devices,
hardrives,
Can you see a pic like this.

larrywhelan

grand thanks ,, im not promoting anything , just want to get help with modems set up
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angeldaisy

riclad wrote: »

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/tutorials/l-lpic1101/fig3.gif

look thru menus,BIOS,
system,devices,
hardrives,
Can you see a pic like this.

No only thing that mentions ide is a list of channels and all have none except channel 2 slave which says pioneer dvd

riclad

GO TO menu in screen pic.
use arrows,enter key,
Set boot from other device= DISABLED

USE page up, page down key to change the value to disabled.
enter key selects the menu item,
eg enter, page up.

riclad

THE HD COULD BE a sata drive,

theres sata and ide drives.
on some pcs,

riclad

IF YOU cannot see ,a ide hardrive ,
or sata hardrive listed in the bios,
it means,

There could be a loose cable,to the drive,

ide or sata cable to drive could be not all the way into the ide, or sata interface.

OR CABLE COULD BE LOOSE on the motherboard,
pc board, eg ide ,or sata connector on the motherboard.



https://www.google.ie/search?oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=bwNXUaSPF9CXhQfAtIHwDw&q=sata%20ide%20cable&biw=1024&bih=614&sei=cQNXUZX0IsSAhQemx4DoDA

http://img.alibaba.com/img/pb/072/385/304/304385072_771.jpg

above pic with sata interface,
ide interface for drive connection.


YOU could knock off pc power,

remove pc cable from esb socket.in the wall,.


CAREFULLY open pc case,
make sure cable is tight going into hardrive interface,

the power cable and data cables are all the way in,

THE data . ide,or sata cables are not loose,
on both ends ,
drive end,
and motherboard end.

angeldaisy

riclad wrote: »

GO TO menu in screen pic.
use arrows,enter key,
Set boot from other device= DISABLED

USE page up, page down key to change the value to disabled.
enter key selects the menu item,
eg enter, page up.

Ok I think ive done that . Cant see any mention of sata drives either?

angeldaisy

okay what i'll do is switch it all off and check all the cables etc... and try it all again.

might take me some time:o

riclad

KNOCK OFF PC,

REMOVE power cable from THE ESB socket FIRST.
BEFORE you open the pc case.

MAKE SURE power cable to hardrive is in,tight on both ends.

whizbang

This is the way to put the power cable when opening the pc.

riclad

knock off ,pc, remove power cable from socket,

REMOVE power cable from extension socket in the picture.

ie stop ALL POWER GOING A

into pc case.

Open case,
see http://www.build-your-own-computer.net/image-files/ide-drive-connection.jpg

make sure red white black yellow cable is plugged into the hd drive.
hd ide drive.
and data cable is tight ,in drive,
and in the motherboard pc motherboard.
eg daTA ,Cable is in all the way in both ends

riclad

Make sure power cable inside pc that supplys power to the harddrive, is tight ,in all the way,
DATA CABLE for the hardrive is tight ,on both ends.eg
in motherboard interface ,and connector at the rear of the hardrive.

SimonLynch

Can't help it but this is shaping up to be better than the 'I've found a safe' thread. I'm hoping the little North Korean fella is the OP and expect an infraction hic

whizbang

Wow, i was thinking i'm a bit on those lines too...well said simon

angeldaisy

Sorry to disappoint but im definitely not korean:))

Just a panicking student cos my spss package is on that pc and I've an assignment due in on Tuesday!

riclad

The drive could be faulty, data cable could be loose,or faulty,

or the motherboard cannot detect the drive,

OR drive is not getting power , loose , or disconnected power cable.

DO not touch the drive pcb, underneath the drive circuit board,
put some tape over it,eg over the pcb, 3x3 inch approx.
OR WEAR a glove when handling the drive.
Touch water taps to get rid of static electricity before opening the case.

maybe borrow another hd ,ide type ,and see is it detected by the pc.


http://www.addonics.com/products/diagrams/usib_ide_hd.jpg

see picture ,

power cable goes into ide hd,
With red cable on the inside,yellow on the outside,
Make sure power cable is in all the way.

whizbang

missed april fools day.., any updates?

sorry daisy, not yu!

angeldaisy

update: just waiting to get someone to have a look at this, but I was wondering if it is the hard drive that's gone, roughly how much would I be looking at to replace it and where's the best place to source one if I need to get one?

yoyo

angeldaisy wrote: »

update: just waiting to get someone to have a look at this, but I was wondering if it is the hard drive that's gone, roughly how much would I be looking at to replace it and where's the best place to source one if I need to get one?

Doing it yourself, around €50 for a new drive here *I am assuming your hard disk is a SATA one, remove the old one and confirm this first*. You will need to then get your hands on the Windows re-install media (what version of Windows were you running/is the computer licensed for (this should be written on a sticker attached to the side of the computer with a product key)).
If you hand it in to a repair shop this cost could vary widely, but I think 100+ would be expected, that includes a new hard disk and the installation of Windows/Drivers etc. Do check the old hard disk is plugged in correctly incase the issue is not a faulty disk, just one that has become disconnected/loose for whatever reason

Nick

riclad

http://www.laptopparts101.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/sata-ide-laptop-hard-drive.jpg

See hd, on the left,TOP picture, thats sata,

http://www.areema.co.uk/images/IDE_drive.jpg

pic above is older type drive, IDE ,
Pc,s usually have sata,or ide 3.5inch hardrives,for storage, usually held in the frame, case by
4 screws. 2 on each side on the drive.
ITS possible to buy a caddy ,ide,or sata, for the old drive,
3,5 inch enclosure,
IF you want to try to get data from it.

http://www.peats.com/cgi-bin/catalog_v2.cgi?id=30319&type=product

IF you think old drive may still be working.

riclad

You can buy hardrives in peats,maplins,
I buy brands like seagate, or western digital.
Hold on to the receipt for 3 years ,its your gaurantee.
I prefer to buy a drive in a shop, not from a website, or online store.

See http://www.maplin.co.uk/oem-3.5-inch-ide-hard-drives-97409

IDE= ata , drive ,if you are looking for drives, on a website, or store order form.
Some shops only sell sata type hardrives.

IDE ata drives have a large cable, red stripe on the right side,
see pic below

http://www.talktoanit.com/A+/aplus-website/images/ide-cables.jpg

With a yellow,black,red power cable.