Why are RTE paying Colm hayes so much money ?

Mary Milk

His jnlr ratings on 2fm have never been anything to write home about. If he was let go from RTE tomorrow, i cant see him getting more than weekend cover work on Q102 if that.

smurfs5

Does it really matter? 2FM is a lost cause. If the controller isn't sacked immediately and the reins given to someone who will give it an identity and a clear target audience which appeals to young people, 2FM should be disbanded. It is a complete and utter waste of licence fee payer's money. There is no talent on the station. Less than 5 of the presenters would probably get a job elsewhere and the JNLRs are shocking for the entire station, not just Hayes's show. It is a sorry excuse for a national radio station. Rant over.

wnolan1992

Because if RTE didn't pay him the big bucks, he'd be snapped up by the competition over in the UK... :rolleyes:

NIMAN

... cos they have form.

fred funk }{

When these presenters get offered jobs in RTE it's like winning the lotto. They must easily double their salary from their jobs in other stations.

Prop Joe

I likes 2fm,Bar Tubbs, I listen daily to Hector,Larry,Rick & Leahy i occasionally will listen to Hayes but i think 2fm is on the way back,Plus they are looking to nick the Off The Ball listernship in the evenings

Stavro Mueller

I wonder is it a leftover from when 2FM brought him and Jim Jim in from FM104? That was reasonably high profile at the time. fred funk }{ did put his finger on the real issue though. It does look like getting into RTE is the Holy Grail of broadcasting and people often end up there after doing their time on TV3, local radio, perhaps TG4...

kerriger

Prop Joe wrote: »

I likes 2fm,Bar Tubbs

Me too, listen most days up until early afternoon, Hector can be a good laugh most mornings and I like Hayes wit, some of his off the cuff remarks crack me up..

Trick of the Tail

The one and only answer to the OP's question is: Because he has a good agent.


A.

Caledonman

alinton wrote: »

The one and only answer to the OP's question is: Because he has a good agent.


A.

So true - I don't listen to him at all, he has little or no backbone when interviewing and the programme in general is weak. I would love to see Hector in this slot. I like him, but not at 7am...

soc160

fred funk }{ wrote: »

When these presenters get offered jobs in RTE it's like winning the lotto. They must easily double their salary from their jobs in other stations.

Makes Jim-Jim's decision to go back to 104 seem admirable, he probably could have stuck around there longer doing nothing but went back to do something he enjoys and is good at.

constitutionus

Jays lads its simple.

its not their money theyre giving him is it ?

its the populace's forced to under penality of prison

EazyD

I never watch/listen to RTE, I never plan to and the fact that people are forced to pay into the annual revenue of any state broadcaster through licence fees is farcical. Especially when it's as crap as RTE. Or Hayes/Tubs....

Skid X

soc160 wrote: »

Makes Jim-Jim's decision to go back to 104 seem admirable, he probably could have stuck around there longer doing nothing but went back to do something he enjoys and is good at.

He wasn't on anything like the same salary as his former Partner at RTE.

As was said above, Colm Hayes's agent seems to be doing an excellent job for him.

http://www.herald.ie/entertainment/around-town/colm-got-twice-my-pay-reveals-angry-jimjim-27994193.html

Jim-Jim (39) said that he thought they had been offered similar salaries, however, he now claims that RTE paid him "a lot less than half" the wages his co-presenter was earning on the 2fm breakfast show.

"RTE gave me the impression that we were on very similar wages, but I was paid less significantly less," he said.

"Betrayal is a good word. Imagine you found out a colleague, exactly the same as yourself, was getting paid a lot more, it hurts."

L1011

I'd be willing to let them pay him more, assuming he never tried to talk about a technology topic ever again. Because he manages to confuse the simplest things possible

The Pontiac

I like the Colm Hayes show.

L1011

People pretending to be animals on air. Can he get any more desperate for content?

fussyonion

I liked him when he was paired with JimJim but since going solo, he's really dull. Just shows who carried that partnership.
I stopped listening to him months back.

All he says "it's what we want you to talk about, it's what we want you to talk about and it's what we all want to talk about" or something to that effect.
Is that his catchphrase? Cos it's not very fcuking catchy.

In comparison, JimJim and Mark on FM104 are a tonic.

eass82

From the herald article linked above:

There was widespread surprise in the media industry when Hayes was the only newcomer to the top 10 best-paid list of RTE stars in 2009, with a salary of €213,954 that year.

I thought this was just a bad dream i had but seems it was real - anyone remember colm and jim jims home run? Biggest crock of sh1te on rte since, well, ever.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colm_and_Jim-Jim%27s_Home_Run
Guess thats what shot him into the big leagues in the pay stakes...


To be fair from what I've heard of him on 2fm he is ok, that time of the day he is grand for something you can have on in the background in the office or wherever. Hector would just be too much!

John Joe Jones

I wonder how much of a pay cut (if any) he is getting going to weekends ?

Srobify

Hmmmm good point... Is he not doing "other projects" for rte apparently.

So prob no pay cut

flangemeistro

John Joe Jones wrote: »

I wonder how much of a pay cut (if any) he is getting going to weekends ?

Do you think Tubridy is going to get a pay cut for doing 5 hours less a week?
Did Finucane take a pay cut when she went to weekends?
If my memory serves me right she got a raise.

alaimacerc

Apparently now a "top ten" earner as a whole, which must make him the highest-paid on R2 altogether. The mind truly boggles. I couldn't even work out who it was when they put up his photo on the news, had to google the list. Ah yes, thinks I, that unlistenably bad purveyor of the worst sort of generic, corny shyte, DJ-cliché blowhardery. Much like that other fellah they had on the drive-time slot before him, except not actually the same person.

Given that they're seemingly determined to make the station as crap as possible, couldn't they at least do it at a more reasonable price? Last show I was able to listen to was the O'Shea/Battle one -- hence the unfortunate experience of accidental exposure to the likes of Leahy and Hayes, due to being a little too slow with the channel or "off" button.

L1011

I suspect he's on significantly less now - that list released is for 2014.

PeterTheEighth

have to say, off all the numbers that stood out on that list, I was most surprised at the figure for Colm Hayes.

LostinBlanch

Yup, the top 10 list is here.

Top earning presenters in 2014

Ryan Tubridy (€495,000)
Joe Duffy (€416,893)
Marian Finucane (€295,000)
Sean O’Rourke (€290,096)
Miriam O’Callaghan (€280,445)
Bryan Dobson (€195,816)
George Lee (€179,031)
Richard Crowley (€174,120)
Colm Hayes (€169,992)
Derek Mooney (€168,871)

Those amounts are eye watering. Tubs on €495,000, Marian Finucane and Miriam O'Callaghan on €295,000 and €280,000 respectively. And that's before we get onto Bryan Dobson on €195, 000 for reading from an autocue! I know he's not on radio, but I'm glad to see our licence fees being well spent. Not!

wnolan1992

TBH, the one I'd take most issue with there is Marian Finucane. €300k for two weekend shows? Taking the piss there.

At least you could argue that Tubridy is doing a radio show 5 days a week (at the time 2-3 hours on 2FM) plus one of the highest rated TV shows in the country, plus I would assume other work such as voiceovers and the like, so when juxtaposed with the likes of Finucane it's not that ridiculous...

BarryD

wnolan1992 wrote: »

At least you could argue that Tubridy is doing a radio show 5 days a week (at the time 2-3 hours on 2FM) plus one of the highest rated TV shows in the country, plus I would assume other work such as voiceovers and the like, so when juxtaposed with the likes of Finucane it's not that ridiculous...

You might argue that, except for this listener and many more I suspect - I just hit the off button where I hear Tubridy.....................

ford fiesta

I think the shocking thing Finucane being on €437k in 2012 for the same 4 hours of radio as she does now and got over paid at €295k in 2014. Her producers do most of the work - which are paid by RTE !! Must be the most expensive radio at the weekends to produce in Ireland.

What a waste of space she is.

Mr Sea Wolf

Hayes has done very well financially from 2fm but his career hasn't

ford fiesta

L1011 wrote: »

I suspect he's on significantly less now - that list released is for 2014.

Probably not less now in 2016 (even though he is on weekends) as he or his agent must have great negotiation skills to have been on for presenting the drivetime show €170K !!!!

alaimacerc

L1011 wrote: »

I suspect he's on significantly less now - that list released is for 2014.

Oh, wait, it was Leahy that replaced Hayes, not Hayes Leahy -- I did mention that the two blurred together in my mind as one big hackneyed mediocrity! So yeah, that was for working fives shows a week rather than two, so adjust for how much and how fast that's reflected in RTE paypackets. i.e. judging by Finucane, "not very".

Mr Sea Wolf

ford fiesta wrote: »

Probably not less now in 2016 (even though he is on weekends) as he or his agent must have great negotiation skills to have been on for presenting the drivetime show €170K !!!!

I'm kinda surprised that many RTE Radio broadcasters who had substantially more listeners than Hayes aren't in this list at all, No John Murray, Ronan Collins, Aine Lawlor or Mary Wilson.

comegowithme

Colm along with the other more 'mature' weekenders will be saying a final goodbye to 2fm when their contracts expire later this year. I expect Larry to be the only one who survives the cull.

screamer

What a disgusting waste of more than 2 million euro of licencing fees.

liam7831

Its no wonder he didn't head of with [snip] when he left, wonder was Colm on a better contract due to his history with RTE, must av been.......?

He is probably fairly financially secure anyway living off royalties from this badboy.......

http://www.rte.ie/tv/homerun/

Mr Sea Wolf

comegowithme wrote: »

Colm along with the other more 'mature' weekenders will be saying a final goodbye to 2fm when their contracts expire later this year. I expect Larry to be the only one who survives the cull.

What about Fanning ?

bbability

Pay packets are in general radio terms in this country very small in comparison to other countries. Colm Hayes take home pay in comparison to a weekend host on BBC is peanuts. I remember salaries were leaked to a newspaper a few years back and Sarah Cox for example was on £200k for two weekend slots. in general terms radio salaries here are poor. I would be more in favour of a better structure within the industry for wages but unfortunately that will never happen. it probably happens in newsrooms as the presenters/newsreaders are memebers of the NUJ. Presenters nowadays on the other hand are mainly contractors or submit there invoices through their companies/ or operate as sole traders. Picking out Colm Hayes is not going to solve the problem. Proper wages structures within the industry will but that will never happen.

ButtersSuki

bbability wrote: »

Pay packets are in general radio terms in this country very small in comparison to other countries. Colm Hayes take home pay in comparison to a weekend host on BBC is peanuts. I remember salaries were leaked to a newspaper a few years back and Sarah Cox for example was on £200k for two weekend slots. in general terms radio salaries here are poor. I would be more in favour of a better structure within the industry for wages but unfortunately that will never happen. it probably happens in newsrooms as the presenters/newsreaders are memebers of the NUJ. Presenters nowadays on the other hand are mainly contractors or submit there invoices through their companies/ or operate as sole traders. Picking out Colm Hayes is not going to solve the problem. Proper wages structures within the industry will but that will never happen.

Any comparisons with BBC should be based on audience figures and population. Cox's audience would be in the millions. Hayes' would be in the..... well.....

I caught about 5 mins of his show on Saturday morning - or maybe it was a repeat/compendium type thing. He played a sketch from Breakfast Republic which he said thrice (twice before and once after playing it) that he'd played it a few weeks ago and it was amazeballs etc. It was about "things that happen at Musical Societies in Ireland" (or something like that). My God it was painful. I didn't laugh once, not even a snigger. Hayes was building it up with the type of hype normally reserved for a Sky Sports Pundit talking about the feast of football that awaits as we tune in to Colchester V Hartlepool Seconds on a Tuesday morning from a training pitch somewhere.

Also the sketch itself was so British in tone it appeared like it had been "borrowed" from a previously done item somewhere. And since when do we have this amazing musical society culture in Ireland anyway? Surely that's a pretty niche topic for a sketch?

flangemeistro

Mr Sea Wolf wrote: »

What about Fanning ?

It's absolutely soul destroying to Hear Larrys golden oldies as he plays Beyonce and Maroon 5.
I doubt he will even survive the cull. Rte Gold the whole way.
On a slightly different topic has anyone else noticed the general 2fm playlist has basically turned into one big electric disco, it's like Dan Healy thinks the youth of the country are so one dimensional that we all like dance/techno ****e.

wnolan1992

flangemeistro wrote: »

It's absolutely soul destroying to Hear Larrys golden oldies as he plays Beyonce and Maroon 5.
I doubt he will even survive the cull. Rte Gold the whole way.
On a slightly different topic has anyone else noticed the general 2fm playlist has basically turned into one big electric disco, it's like Dan Healy thinks the youth of the country are so one dimensional that we all like dance/techno ****e.

To be fair, RTE Gold is probably the best place for Larry, not the national youth station...

Colm recently revealed on a podcast that in November 2006, a senior RTE figure came up to him at a gig in the point theatre and said to him, "whatever Fm104 are paying you, I'll triple it" and that's how he ended up on 2fm in March 2007 on a salary of 213k

NIMAN

And they wonder why they are constantly running a huge debt.

ford fiesta

Jim Jim received a lot less, isn`t that why they fell out?

Leilak

do they still not talk?

Interestingly, Colm claimed that RTE weren't particularly pushed either way on Jim Jim joining and a deal with Jim Jim was only agreed last minute.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118044047#Comment_118044047

No they haven't spoken since summer 2010. Apart from the benefit to Colms bank account, that move to 2fm was a complete flop and very badly thought out. because they had to change all of their characters names etc on 2fm, their Dublin fans thought they sounded "too different" on 2fm and listeners outside Dublin didn't take to them at all.

iffandonlyif

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118042720#Comment_118042720

I feel we should be sceptical of 15 year-old recollections. But, regardless, surely he could have expected his salary at least to double in moving from a regional private station to the national broadcaster.

ford fiesta

they must bump into each other around the dublin docks area, where Nova and FM104 are based close enough to each other

dudley72

Edit

Deregos.

How much does Mairead Ronan get from 2 (edit) sorry Today FM?

She's a hard listen. Plyed her trade on the Ray Darcy school of broadcasting . . . Regretfully