GAA star's drink-driving charge is withdrawn

leonidas83

THE DPP has dropped motoring-related charges against former Kerry footballer Darragh O Se.

The former All-Star midfielder, of Mounthawk Manor, Tralee, had faced charges of drink-driving, dangerous driving, having no insurance and no driving licence.
Mr O Se (37) was stopped by Garda Deirdre Barry on February 3 last on the N7, at Black- church, Kill, Co Kildare.
But when the case was called, at Naas District Court, Chief Superintendent Pat Mangan told Judge Desmond Zaidan that the cases against the famous footballer were being withdrawn, on the instructions of the DPP.
"Why?" the judge asked.
Chief Supt Mangan explained documents had been shown to gardai to indicate that Mr O Se's insurance and driving licence were in order.
The charges of dangerous driving and drink-driving were withdrawn for "procedural reasons".
Mr O Se's solicitor Conal Boyce told the court that it may not be the last time the matter came before the court.
He said that the move had followed submissions from him.
Mr O Se was not in court to hear the charges being withdrawn.
"Should he at least appear," the Judge asked, but Mr Boyce explained that Mr O Se was not there on his advice and that "there was no suggestion of any disrespect to the court".
Serious
"These are two serious allegations," the judge noted.
"I just don't understand it," he added."
He then asked if he would dismiss the matters "without prejudice".
But Chief Supt Mangan said he was withdrawing the charges.
"That's the instructions I have from the DPP," he said.
The judge struck out the charges, but said: "I don't know what these procedural reasons are."

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This is a disgrace, its the same old story, if your well know or a bit of celebrity the laws that apply to the rest of us don't apply to u. This is another stain on the gards in this country & the judicial system. Had this been an ordinary citizen a custodial sentence would be on the cards.

Death and Taxes

leonidas83 wrote: »

THE DPP has dropped motoring-related charges against former Kerry footballer Darragh O Se.

The former All-Star midfielder, of Mounthawk Manor, Tralee, had faced charges of drink-driving, dangerous driving, having no insurance and no driving licence.
Mr O Se (37) was stopped by Garda Deirdre Barry on February 3 last on the N7, at Black- church, Kill, Co Kildare.
But when the case was called, at Naas District Court, Chief Superintendent Pat Mangan told Judge Desmond Zaidan that the cases against the famous footballer were being withdrawn, on the instructions of the DPP.
"Why?" the judge asked.
Chief Supt Mangan explained documents had been shown to gardai to indicate that Mr O Se's insurance and driving licence were in order.
The charges of dangerous driving and drink-driving were withdrawn for "procedural reasons".
Mr O Se's solicitor Conal Boyce told the court that it may not be the last time the matter came before the court.
He said that the move had followed submissions from him.
Mr O Se was not in court to hear the charges being withdrawn.
"Should he at least appear," the Judge asked, but Mr Boyce explained that Mr O Se was not there on his advice and that "there was no suggestion of any disrespect to the court".
Serious
"These are two serious allegations," the judge noted.
"I just don't understand it," he added."
He then asked if he would dismiss the matters "without prejudice".
But Chief Supt Mangan said he was withdrawing the charges.
"That's the instructions I have from the DPP," he said.
The judge struck out the charges, but said: "I don't know what these procedural reasons are."

This is a disgrace, its the same old story, if your well know or a bit of celebrity the laws that apply to the rest of us don't apply to u. This is another stain on the gards in this country & the judicial system. Had this been an ordinary citizen a custodial sentence would be on the cards.

How in gods name (if she exists) can the actions of the DPP be reasonably described as a "Stain on the Guards". It is akin to saying that the actions of Larry Murphy are a stain on the GAA ffs!

Ash.J.Williams

Wonder what happened there

bonzos

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Wonder what happened there

What happened there is "Do you know who I am"....the law in this country does not apply to GAA players.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/garda-gaa-star-cleared-after-botched-arrest-26817829.html

suicide_circus

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Wonder what happened there

He is a GAA man and therefore of good character from a good family who "done" great work for "de" community.

gobnaitolunacy

Heaven forbid one of the Gods of GAA and no doubt a pillar of the community should have drink driving charges brought against him.

merdock

DPP is seperate to the guards... If the guards wanted to pull it I some how very much doubt that they would have brought it all the way to court.... Comeon now OP.

iDave

ah the usual anti-GAA bullsh1t, no surprises here.

bonzos

And this is the same group of people who want support from the public because they are being treated unfairly by Alan Shatter? They are only loyal to themselves and GAA hacks who are "stars" in their own ego:rolleyes:

Heroditas

It's an utter disgrace and he's an extremely lucky boy because Zaidan has a no qualms about flinging people in jail for driving offences.

Sunnyisland

There may have been a few legal arguments in why the charges were struck out, cant think of any myself, so the courts should have been shown why and how they were, This type of carry own only throws more petrol on the fire of the who you know brigade in this country.

suicide_circus

iDave wrote: »

ah the usual anti-GAA bullsh1t, no surprises here.

Not anti GAA, anti gombeenism

listermint

It would appear all the documents were produced.


Sounds like an article stirring sh&t up.

bonzos

iDave wrote: »

ah the usual anti-GAA bullsh1t, no surprises here.

If he killed your mother\wife\child while drink driving would you consider it anti GAA to question why charges were dropped?

Sunnyisland

murdock wrote: »

DPP is separate to the guards... If the guards wanted to pull it I some how very much doubt that they would have brought it all the way to court.... Come On now OP.

The garda can also contact the dpp to say the matter is resolved and its not worth the courts time in going ahead with the prosecution.

suicide_circus

Heroditas wrote: »

Zaidan has a no qualms about flinging people in jail for driving offences.

He also has no qualms headbutting marco materazzi in the world cup final.

dan1895

suicide_circus wrote: »

He also has no qualms headbutting marco materazzi in the world cup final.

Terrible!
Well played.

listermint

listermint wrote: »

It would appear all the documents were produced.


Sounds like an article stirring sh&t up.

Did you read the drink-driving and dangerous driving bits?

listermint

Deleted User wrote: »

Did you read the drink-driving and dangerous driving bits?

Do you have proof of both ?


Yeah.

Thought not.

Sunnyisland

Wonder if it was a Dublin gaa player up before a court in Kildare would he have gotten of, no way I say, It be of to mountjoy with him,Them lillywhites would do anything to win.









LOL LOL LOL relax.

listermint

listermint wrote: »

Do you have proof of both ?


Yeah.

Thought not.

That he was charged? I only have what's mentioned in the article. I'm just wondering what documents you're talking about that would lead to those charges being dropped.

Valetta

realies wrote: »

The garda can also contact the dpp to say the matter is resolved and its not worth the courts time in going ahead with the prosecution.

So what's your point?

These sort of incidents happen every week of the year. Why is there only outrage when it's a well known person involved???

Looks to me like due process was followed.

merdock

realies wrote: »

The garda can also contact the dpp to say the matter is resolved and its not worth the courts time in going ahead with the prosecution.

Guards have F all pull over the DPP.. There's more to this the meets the eye but the comment of 'stain on the guards' is unfair.

I have no doubt there was foul play in this, especially if the guard charged him with dangerous driving there obviously was a case of dangerous driving, they don't throw those charges at people willy nilly... But I would suspect one of the Kerry mafia got to someone in the DPP as the Chief Superintendent said himself in court when asked ' I don't know, these are the directions I got from the DPP'.

Like I said above guards have f all pull over DPP, it's a case of in this country what the DPP says goes an how dare you argue with me is the DPPs attitude.

If anyone has a case to answer to it should be the DPP they contact.

beertons

Sure ya can't ban him from driving, how would he get to training?

Maybe he had a permit?

Sunnyisland

murdock wrote: »

Guards have F all pull over the DPP.. There's more to this the meets the eye but the comment of 'stain on the guards' is unfair.

I have no doubt there was foul play in this, especially if the guard charged him with dangerous driving there obviously was a case of dangerous driving, they don't throw those charges at people willy nilly... But I would suspect one of the Kerry mafia got to someone in the DPP as the Chief Superintendent said himself in court when asked ' I don't know, these are the directions I got from the DPP'.

Like I said above guards have f all pull over DPP, it's a case of in this country what the DPP says goes an how dare you argue with me is the DPPs attitude.

If anyone has a case to answer to it should be the DPP they contact.

I never said the Garda had power over the Dpp so relax there, But if you think the Dpp or Garda don't talk about some cases or look from direction in which way the case is going and in where they want to go you would be very much mistaken, seen it happening many a time in the courts.

dm09

Absolutely disgraceful! It would have never got as far as court unless there was substantial evidence to charge him with!
So with regards to the drink driving charge there is obviously evidence to show he was intoxicated based on breath or blood analysis. There is a lot more to this story than the public will ever find out! Shall we expect to hear more about this story or will the media be silenced?
A great wee country it is, and we hear about corruption in Africa? Our lot would give them a good run for their money!

Ash.J.Williams

Ah sure his life Would be ruined, he needs the car to drive up and down from training

Sunnyisland

Valletta wrote: »

So what's your point?

These sort of incidents happen every week of the year. Why is there only outrage when it's a well known person involved???

Looks to me like due process was followed.

That's the joy of being a well known person,It has up,s as well as downs and unfortunately or fortunately depending on your viewpoint you are expected to be more of the righteous sort and behave in a manner in which to others you can show example.

AEDIC

merdock wrote: »

Guards have F all pull over the DPP.. There's more to this the meets the eye but the comment of 'stain on the guards' is unfair.

I have no doubt there was foul play in this, especially if the guard charged him with dangerous driving there obviously was a case of dangerous driving, they don't throw those charges at people willy nilly... But I would suspect one of the Kerry mafia got to someone in the DPP as the Chief Superintendent said himself in court when asked ' I don't know, these are the directions I got from the DPP'.

Like I said above guards have f all pull over DPP, it's a case of in this country what the DPP says goes an how dare you argue with me is the DPPs attitude.

If anyone has a case to answer to it should be the DPP they contact.

DPP would have to pull the case though surely if they thought that, due to (lets say for arguments sake) incorrect process on arrest or documents not being correctly completed at the time of arrest, they would lose if they prosecuted.

Would have thought it possible enough for any Garda to suddenly find errors in due process to force the DPP's hand...bit embarrassing for them alright and maybe a slap on the wrists...but not beyond the realms of probability.... possibly

byronbay2

Deleted User wrote: »

Maybe he had a permit?

Those things are handy to have but are only valid within the Kerry county bounds - otherwise you leave yourself wide open to abuse of the system!

FWIW, I don't see the story here - loads of people have charges dropped every day for various reasons. O'Se obviously employed a good solicitor, who spotted a procedural mistake by The Gardai or DPP that led to charges being dropped. In general, I would say the DPP is LESS likely to drop a charge against Dara O'Se than an ordinary civilian, on the basis that there will be a stink kicked up when it becomes public!

awec

Maybe Mickey Harte wrote him a letter?

Frynge

WileyCoyote wrote: »

How in gods name (if she exists) can the actions of the DPP be reasonably described as a "Stain on the Guards". It is akin to saying that the actions of Larry Murphy are a stain on the GAA ffs!

Ah here, he wasn't that bad of a hurler.

Larry Murphy

Dempsey

The judge should have demanded the procedural issues to be explained

spank_inferno

Dempsey wrote: »

The judge should have demanded the procedural issues to be explained

was just about to type that!

Old "rent a reference" Harte was probably spaming the DPP with daily character references

SB2013

Dempsey wrote: »

The judge should have demanded the procedural issues to be explained

The DPP wasn't there to explain it

Grand Moff Tarkin

Why is anyone shocked with this as it happens all the time.

SEPT 23 1989

You are either inside or outside the tent in this rotten Republic

Ash.J.Williams

there is a problem here...the judge had no idea why the DPP dropped the charges. We can also gather the judge wasn't happy with the charges being dropped.

darced

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RayM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Not anti GAA, anti gombeenism

From what I've noticed over the years, the two seem inextricably linked.

castletownman

darced wrote: »

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Yeah because it's limited JUST to GAA players. It's not like a few politicians have never had the book thrown at them for similar offences, and walked without charge.

Now while I'm not condoning drink driving, it seems to be in the Irish psyche to get a "garda friend" to sort it out whenever a minor offence lands at their door.

JRant

Is it not highly unusual for a chief superintendant to appear in such a case?

michael999999

Darragh o se is being primed for years now to be the next Fianna Fail runner come the next general elections. There was no way they were going to let him be convicted of anything.

The corruption in this country is fu##ing disgraceful!

Steve O

michael999999 wrote: »

Darragh o se is being primed for years now to be the next Fianna Fail runner come the next general elections. There was no way they were going to let him be convicted of anything.

The corruption in this country is fu##ing disgraceful!

Yup, especially because of the amount of idiots prepared to vote FF in the next election. "Shure twill beh grand".

Kinzig

Grand Moff Tarkin wrote: »

Why is anyone shocked with this as it happens all the time.

I agree, its always been that way here. I know of lots of cases where businessmen and folks with some pull were caught DUI and had the charges dropped..nothing strange about it..the system here is worse than any bannana republic..

Ash.J.Williams

Any more updates on this? I really want to know why these charges were dropped.

wicklowstevo

realies wrote: »

The garda can also contact the dpp to say the matter is resolved and its not worth the courts time in going ahead with the prosecution.

that's not true , the dpp can not be contacted directly by garda , only state solicitors can contact dpps office directly

lukin

A case of justice delayed; https://extra.ie/2023/05/11/news/irish-news/darragh-o-se-banned-from-driving

Feisar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/83875932#Comment_83875932

The days of "squaring" at Garda level are gone.

BrianD3

Jesus Christ, what a monumental arsehole. Gets away with drink driving, dangerous driving and driving without insurance in 2013 (as per the date of OP in this thread) but did he learn his lesson and quit while he was ahead? Obviously not given that he was then caught six times over the legal limit in 2020. I wonder how many other times he did this between 2013 and 2020 and wasn't caught.

Imagine if this GAA "hero" wipe out someone while six times over the legal limit having already gotten away with it previously, how would the cute hoor GAA gombeens cover that up.