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Will the fastest man in the world ever run 100m in 1 second?

  • 28-03-2013 1:34am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭


    Assuming that records are just going to keep getting broken, Will the fastest man in the world be 9 foot tall at some stage, and will it ever be ran in 1 second?

    When i was 7, i knew a guy who said he could run 10 miles per hour, he also told me he was able to run from my gaff, to the village (roughly, just less than a mile) in 20 seconds. Unfortunately i don't know him anymore, or where he lives, or anything about him. But will that be the norm for kids of the future?

    Will we need fast cars?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    No. Just no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    SV wrote: »
    No. Just no.

    We won't need fast cars?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭chips1234


    lay off the meth op


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 381 ✭✭Gorilla Rising


    No, but I wonder will there ever be a boy born who can swim faster than a shark...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    Allyall wrote: »
    We won't need fast cars?

    We don't need them now.
    but no, the 100metres will never be done in 1 second by a human being.

    Actually..I don't think it'll ever be done by anything, man or machine, from a stand start.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    SV wrote: »
    We don't need them now.
    but no, the 100metres will never be done in 1 second by a human being.

    prove it.

    Why not?

    It would have to be one step?..

    Not if you're super-fast.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    Allyall wrote: »
    prove it.

    No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭Tearwave


    SV wrote: »

    We don't need them now.
    but no, the 100metres will never be done in 1 second by a human being.

    Actually..I don't think it'll ever be done by anything, man or machine, from a stand start.
    What about a teleport machine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    Not a man, but a robot... a black robot. Yes!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    Tearwave wrote: »
    What about a teleport machine

    Then they wouldn't be running it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,661 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    physics says no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    I edited too late..

    If they were (what we call now) - Super -fast..

    They would be awesome running machines (People)

    And they could run 100m in 1 second?

    Why not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭Tearwave


    SV wrote: »

    Then they wouldn't be running it?
    What if they run into and out of the teleport machine. You won't win this argument I literally have all night.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    Allyall wrote: »
    I edited too late..

    If they were (what we call now) - Super -fast..

    They would be awesome running machines (People)

    And they could run 100m in 1 second?

    Why not?

    To be running at 100metres a second you'd have to be doing over 230mph or 360kmh.
    That's not counting the acceleration either.

    I don't think the world will survive long enough to see evolution of that kind.
    Tearwave wrote: »
    What if they run into and out of the teleport machine. You won't win this argument I literally have all night.

    The end result is still them teleporting.
    They'd have to run from the start to the end point for it to be valid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭COYVB


    If you could bend space time on a whim, then it could be done, theoretically


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭johnmcdnl


    SV wrote: »

    Actually..I don't think it'll ever be done by anything, man or machine, from a stand start.

    I'd say there's a machine out there today that could give it a shot. Something like a Formula 1 car or some of those dragster race cars except super souped up. It's definitely possible if something was designed to do it though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    If they got their speed from drugs/hit by lightning/radiation..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭Tearwave


    SV wrote: »

    The end result is still them teleporting.
    They'd have to run from the start to the end point for it to be valid.
    A reasonable argument, but they would be in a constant state of "running" during teleportation. Hence they are running from the start to the end point. The teleport device just "speeds up" the running, if you catch my drift.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭COYVB


    retalivity wrote: »
    physics says no.

    Physics actually says yes on this one


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    johnmcdnl wrote: »
    I'd say there's a machine out there today that could give it a shot. Something like a Formula 1 car or some of those dragster race cars except super souped up. It's definitely possible if something was designed to do it though.
    Actually yeah, to be fair I forgot about the high speed dragsters that exist.
    Allyall wrote: »
    If they got their speed from drugs/hit by lightning/radiation..

    The first one, I dunno what kind of drugs would have that affect. The second two might kill ya rather than make you run really fast?
    Tearwave wrote: »
    A reasonable argument, but they would be in a constant state of "running" during teleportation. Hence they are running from the start to the end point. The teleport device just "speeds up" the running, if you catch my drift.
    That's true, but they still didn't run the whole thing. They teleported. That's just the be all and end all of it really, even if ya do have all night.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,284 ✭✭✭StewartGriffin


    Interesting thread.

    One word OP: Effort!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    That's not far of the top speed of the Bugatti Veyron.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    100m in 1 second ?

    that's 360Kmh

    That's literally faster than a speeding locomotive. Faster than any non-electric train.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Already happened. Here is a documentary on the man.



    So so sad :'(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Will the fastest man in the world ever run 100m in 1 second?

    Sexist pig!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    nocoverart wrote: »
    Not a man, but a robot... a black robot. Yes!


    Ignorance!

    The correct term is African American Robot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    I can ejaculate 100 m in less than 1 second


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭ebixa82


    Allyall wrote: »
    Assuming that records are just going to keep getting broken, Will the fastest man in the world be 9 foot tall at some stage, and will it ever be ran in 1 second?

    When i was 7, i knew a guy who said he could run 10 miles per hour, he also told me he was able to run from my gaff, to the village (roughly, just less than a mile) in 20 seconds. Unfortunately i don't know him anymore, or where he lives, or anything about him. But will that be the norm for kids of the future?

    Will we need fast cars?

    What kind of a fcukin tool spends their time writing this tripe?

    Go out and get some hole for yourself would you.

    banned


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Humans aren't getting faster. If anything, we're getting slower on average. Our ancestors would have run long distances chasing down prey. There is no evolutionary advantage to being a faster runner today, and no selective pressures for it. The only reason why we have faster runners at a competitive level is because training techniques have improved, equipment and clothing has improved, understanding of nutrition has improved and performance enhancing drugs are rampant.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭9959


    Yes, I believe 100m in 1 second will be achieved by the fastest man in the world, not today or even tomorrow, but perhaps next week when it's a bit warmer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭KyussBishop


    If someone could run that fast, all that would be left of them if they tripped up, would be a long red splat mark on the ground.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Humans aren't getting faster. If anything, we're getting slower on average.

    No one's interested in the average. We're only interested in the Usain Bolts of the future. The world record will continue to improve, albeit at an ever-decreasing rate.

    I await a time when a man, or woman, will run 100m faster than 0 seconds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    I can do the 100 in 1 second.



    Falling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    No. Sub 9 seconds is maybe a more interesting question. Diet, nutrition, training and performance enhancing drugs will always evolve and improve but it took approxamitely a century to go from a sub 10.6 to a sub 9.6 of which just under 40 years was concerned with the movement from 9.95 to 9.74.

    There is a decent chance that Bolt's 9.58 will remain unbeaten for a number of decades.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭sebastianlieken


    Allyall wrote: »
    When i was 7, i knew a guy who said he could run 10 miles per hour, he also told me he was able to run from my gaff, to the village (roughly, just less than a mile) in 20 seconds. Unfortunately i don't know him anymore, or where he lives, or anything about him. But will that be the norm for kids of the future?

    So he could run at 10mph in general, but from your gaff to the village he could clock in at almost 180mph.

    Impressive.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,410 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    No. Sub 9 seconds is maybe a more interesting question. Diet, nutrition, training and performance enhancing drugs will always evolve and improve but it took approxamitely a century to go from a sub 10.6 to a sub 9.6 of which under 40 years was concerned with the movement from 9.95 to 9.74.

    There is a decent chance that Bolt's 9.58 will remain unbeaten for a number of decades.

    I believe its been proven by people smarter than me that the fastest any human will ever be able to run (regardless of size, gentetics etc) is about 9.2 seconds for the 100m. Physics wont allow us run faster than that, even if we want to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    I can do the 100 in 1 second.



    Falling.

    No you can't. The terminal velocity of a falling human is around 120 miles per hours which translates into little more than 50 metres per second


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,639 ✭✭✭✭OldGoat


    retalivity wrote: »
    physics says no.
    COYVB wrote: »
    Physics actually says yes on this one
    Physics is now in a huff and won't talk to anyone except Biology.

    I'm older than Minecraft goats.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    twinytwo wrote: »

    I believe its been proven by people smarter than me that the fastest any human will ever be able to run (regardless of size, gentetics etc) is about 9.2 seconds for the 100m. Physics wont allow us run faster than that, even if we want to.
    Oh, that's interesting! Didn't know that. Any links?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,410 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    No you can't. The terminal velocity of a falling human is around 120 miles per hours which translates into little more than 50 metres per second

    Not unless your Felix Baumgartner.... 843.6mph:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,516 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    @ all the people laughing saying no, answer me where is the limit then? Obviously theres a very real wall in your opinion to how fast a human being can run without drug/genetic/robotic modification, where do you believe it is?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Biomechanically there's gonna be a limit. Now it's possible with genetic jiggery pokery that this limit may be broken, but even then there's gonna be a limit for the human frame that still looks human.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I seem to recall research that reckoned one of our ancestors Homo Erectus might have been able to run faster than us based on their biomechanics. Dunno if that was over 100 metres though. They were shorter, lightly enough though very wiry in build, with narrower hips, so maybe if you had a modern human "freak of nature" they might beat the current record?

    The other aspect is that there are likely many thousands of "Usain Bolts" who are naturally built to be amazing sprinters and other athletes, but who just never had any interest in training and competing. I do recall reading of one top athlete whose name escapes, who had a very high V02 max(ability to convert O2 into energy very basically) and his brother when tested actually had a slightly higher one, even though he was mr ordinary bloke who liked pizza and watchin telly.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,516 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Biomechanically there's gonna be a limit. Now it's possible with genetic jiggery pokery that this limit may be broken, but even then there's gonna be a limit for the human frame that still looks human.

    I completely agree and i was having this conversation A LOT during the olympics and we never were really able to nail a consensus down about where that limit might be. Im talking absolutely no modifications whatsoever, although i suppose you have to be allowed consider selective breeding as its is technically natural and very possible to have in the olympics in the future


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭Tiddlypeeps


    VinLieger wrote: »
    @ all the people laughing saying no, answer me where is the limit then? Obviously theres a very real wall in your opinion to how fast a human being can run without drug/genetic/robotic modification, where do you believe it is?

    The absolute hard limit would be the person in questions terminal velocity. No matter what their acceleration they absolutely cannot travel faster than that. For the current human shape the average is just shy of 60 meters per second. So assuming our technology allows some man genetic or mechanical modifications that allow humans to accelerate to 60 m/s almost instantly the absolute fastest they could run the 100m is 1.66 seconds. Being able to accelerate that quickly is a pretty big assumption and is likely impossible but even still it makes it impossible to do the 100m in 1 second for somebody with a regular humanoid body.

    For the person that said no machine could ever go that fast, Concord broke the sound barrier which is just under 350 m/s. I think the last landspeed record set broke the sound barrier too.


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    The absolute hard limit would be the person in questions terminal velocity. No matter what their acceleration they absolutely cannot travel faster than that.
    That's not what terminal velocity means. It has no bearing on how fast a man can run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭Mountjoy Mugger


    I don't know who's worse - the OP or all those answering him/her. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,132 ✭✭✭Just Like Heaven


    I believe in you OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭Auldloon


    If the man was actually a bullet and he lived in a gun and the gun was in the Olympics 100 metres and everyone was laughing at the gun saying you're a gun you don't even have legs or feet or tackies and then bang and he won.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    SV wrote: »
    We don't need them now.
    but no, the 100metres will never be done in 1 second by a human being.

    Actually..I don't think it'll ever be done by anything, man or machine, from a stand start.

    Never, except in some bizarre genetically enhanced far off future. The human body just isn't strong enough to survive acceleration like that, your muscles would pull away from your bones under the forces required.

    As for done by anything, i don't see why not. Surely bullets do more than that from a standing start?
    The absolute hard limit would be the person in questions terminal velocity. No matter what their acceleration they absolutely cannot travel faster than that. For the current human shape the average is just shy of 60 meters per second. So assuming our technology allows some man genetic or mechanical modifications that allow humans to accelerate to 60 m/s almost instantly the absolute fastest they could run the 100m is 1.66 seconds. Being able to accelerate that quickly is a pretty big assumption and is likely impossible but even still it makes it impossible to do the 100m in 1 second for somebody with a regular humanoid body.

    For the person that said no machine could ever go that fast, Concord broke the sound barrier which is just under 350 m/s. I think the last landspeed record set broke the sound barrier too.

    Terminal velocity only applies to a body falling under the force of gravity. objects can and do move at many multiples of their terminal velocity all the time.


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