Retrial of Amanda Knox ordered

seamus

Rather than drag up the original thread...

The Italian courts have overturned Amanda Knox's acquittal and ordered a retrial. Dragging this into a whole new level of farce that the Italian court system has become famous for.

https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/316475869923258368

Best of luck getting her to leave the US. If I was her I'd make sure I can't be extradited and stay put.

Hande hoche!

But she's pretty?

Wibbs

While I certainly had major doubts about her evidence and innocence, the Italian courts proved to be beyond daft in their handling of the whole thing.

Frank Black

Hande hoche! wrote: »

But she's pretty?

No, she's foxy - apparently.

Lollipops23

Good luck to them getting her extradited from the USA. Not gonna happen.

I'm not convinced she did it btw, but there's so many unanswered questions about the case. The Italian police really bolloxed it up royally.

Sergeant

That was my favourite murder trial ever.

Teyla Emmagan

They haven't a hope in hell of getting her back.

Hande hoche!

Sergeant wrote: »

That was my favourite murder trial ever.

It's gotta be OJ for me.

Duggys Housemate

She's about as guilty as me. The investigation was a farce.

flanna01

The original trial was dodgy to say the least... without a doubt, she lied from the beginning, and acted 'weird' throughout the investigation.

Her hands have blood on them - I don't care what anybody thinks. she wasn't as innocent as she portrayed herself to be.

Realistically speaking - There isn't a snow ball in Hell's chance of her leaving the USA to accommodate another Italian trial.

anncoates

Excellent.

Months of more danger **** pictorial material.

Duggys Housemate

There is no evidence against Knox except "acting weird", the insane fantasies of the prosecutor, and planted evidence.

tigger123

The Italian Justice system is embarrassing itself at this stage. She'll never be extradited, even if the courts want it it would take a whole other level of political and diplomatic effort in order for it to happen.

delthedriver

Are the Italians for real?
Another retrial? How many more?
Berlusconi?
The leaning tower of Pisa?
Fiat( fix it again tomorrow)
What a bunch of jokers!
Amanda Knox was acquitted, end of .:D

LuckyLloyd

Eh...do people really believe the US will refuse to facilitate an extradition request? I'm not sure - but why are people so sure they won't?

lintdrummer

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/breaking-amanda-knox-and-raffaele-sollecito-will-face-retrial-over-death-of-meredith-kercher-8549373.html

According to this, she doesn't need to be extradited, they can go ahead without her. However that works!

Edit: the relevant text from link.

Following today's decision Knox does not have to return to Italy as there is no requirement for defendants to be in court.

Tombo2001

her ugly cousin's trial got no media attention whatsover. Life just isnt fair sometimes.

the groutch

they're like FF with the referendums, keep trying til you get the result you want.

delthedriver

delthedriver wrote: »

Are the Italians for real?
Another retrial? How many more?
Berlusconi?
The leaning tower of Pisa?
Fiat( fix it again tomorrow)
What a bunch of jokers!
Amanda Knox was acquitted, end of .:D

So despite all the other things you mentioned you for some reason think he acquittal was correct? Odd way of looking at things.

Wattle

The prosecutions case was complete fantasy from beginning to end. I'd like to know what has changed that they now feel they can retry the case.

sbsquarepants

Ah good old foxy knoxy - damn she's hot!
I also think she's most likely innocent, the investigation was beyond a disgrace.

Lollipops23

sbsquarepants wrote: »

I also think she's most likely innocent, the investigation was beyond a disgrace.

At the start of the last trial I was convinced she was guilty, but when I did a bit of reading that started to fall away.
Honestly, I think she lacks a lot of social awareness etc and hence acted very oddly in the days after the murder. But a lot of people have that problem and shock/grief/exhaustion can affect folk very differently.

Tazium

Yeah, I still would though

sbsquarepants

Lollipops23 wrote: »

At the start of the last trial I was convinced she was guilty, but when I did a bit of reading that started to fall away.
Honestly, I think she lacks a lot of social awareness etc and hence acted very oddly in the days after the murder. But a lot of people have that problem and shock/grief/exhaustion can affect folk very differently.

People forget that she was a young girl in a foreign country and in an incredibly stressfull situation, of course she's going to act weird.
I have a 17 year old daughter - she falls apart at the seams if there's a spider in the bath or the wifi stops working. There is no way she could cope with anything approaching a real problem!

Dtp79

sbsquarepants wrote: »

People forget that she was a young girl in a foreign country and in an incredibly stressfull situation, of course she's going to act weird.
I have a 17 year old daughter - she falls apart at the seams if there's a spider in the bath or the wifi stops working. There is no way she could cope with anything approaching a real problem!

Taken 3

Caveman1

Does double jeopardy not apply anymore ? or am I watching too much Law & Order

Marsellus Wallace

She is guilty as hell but America will not send her back to Italy, they do not extradite there nationals for trial for crimes committed abroad, but they expect everyone else to send people to them to stand trial.

the_monkey

But seriously, if this retrial finds her guilty , can the US refuse an extradition order ?


I'm not a betting man , but if I had to put money on it , I think she's guilty...


Why the hell did she accuse a barman ? - desperation ...

delthedriver

Deleted User wrote: »

So despite all the other things you mentioned you for some reason think he acquittal was correct? Odd way of looking at things.

Sure the Italians are incapable of closing their own shoe laces, that is why they have a preference for slip on shoes.

As regards conducting a murder trial, it was nothing short of a circus

Odd?

Marsellus Wallace

the_monkey wrote: »

Why the hell did she accuse a barman ? - desperation ...

Dare I say it, he was a black man... Always blame the black man!

VinLieger

Really cant see the Americans sending her back, maybe they would if it was for the first trial but no way after the garbage thats gone on with this

the groutch

VinLieger wrote: »

Really cant see the Americans sending her back, maybe they would if it was for the first trial but no way after the garbage thats gone on with this

the European Court of Human Rights wouldnt allow a retrial even if that did happen.

delthedriver

Italy is such a dysfunctional country. They want to retry a young girl for a murder for which she was acquitted on appeal.

They really live in cuckoo land. Probably the most corrupt country in Europe

They can barely rule their country, look at Berlusconis antics for years.

And of course Disney Land aka The Vatican.

The US are correct in not extraditing Amanda Knox.

I don't believe for one moment she would get a fair trial:)

donegal_road

she should head to Sri Lanka, Brazil or Morocco. They have no extradition treaty with Italy

admiralofthefleet

will she do playboy or hustler before she goes back to porridge

Footoo

Sergeant wrote: »

That was my favourite murder trial ever.

Sequels rarely live to to the standard of the original. Don't get your hopes up.

hyperborean

This is Italy we are talking about.... The Mafia, Berlusconi, The Vatican, Fiat.....

Why anyone is suprised is the only thing that suprises me.

ejmaztec

delthedriver wrote: »

Italy is such a dysfunctional country. They want to retry a young girl for a murder for which she was acquitted on appeal.

They really live in cuckoo land. Probably the most corrupt country in Europe

They can barely rule their country, look at Berlusconis antics for years.

And of course Disney Land aka The Vatican.

The US are correct in not extraditing Amanda Knox.

I don't believe for one moment she would get a fair trial:)

I think that after a long time in Italy's shadow, the Greeks managed to win the Eurovision Corruption Contest, and they didn't even have to fiddle the votes.

Da Shins Kelly

I have my doubts about her innocence, have always felt as though she knew more than she was letting on, but it's the Italian justice system who f*cked it all up. It's their fault entirely for making a mess of the whole thing from day one. Really feel sorry for Meredith Kercher's family in all of this. They've been put through hell with all this to-ing and fro-ing and uncertainty on top of all the publicity surrounding the case. For some reason, I feel like they'll never have any closure on this, thanks mainly to the farcical Italian judicial system.

Merkin

Technically it's the appeal that's being re-heard so she has to win again.

Even if she loses, I can't see the US agreeing to extradite a citizen back to face 26 years in the big house abroad.

It should happen but American hypocrisy will win again.

Merkin

delthedriver wrote: »

Italy is such a dysfunctional country.

Yes but I do think they put the FUN in dysfunctional. Amazing food, amazing weather, an ancient culture, amazing fashion, all very good looking and as corrupt as can be. I love Italy.

Caveman1

Am I the only one who thinks she's ugly ? don't get the infatuation with her at all.

VinLieger

Caveman1 wrote: »

Am I the only one who thinks she's ugly ? don't get the infatuation with her at all.

Well not ugly, but i agree in that i dont understand the infatuation

Don't Chute!

Caveman1 wrote: »

Am I the only one who thinks she's ugly ? don't get the infatuation with her at all.

Yes you are.

LuckyLloyd

Merkin wrote: »

Yes but I do think they put the FUN in dysfunctional. Amazing food, amazing weather, an ancient culture, amazing fashion, all very good looking and as corrupt as can be. I love Italy.

Rubbish on the streets in Naples; incredibly chauvinistic culture; unhealthily image obsessed; societal aversion to technical progress; significant inequality; underlying racial attitudes and social exclusion; lack of political freedom; high levels of violence and organised crime. Truly dreadful country as they go tbh.

StewartGriffin

delthedriver wrote: »

Sure the Italians are incapable of closing their own shoe laces, that is why they have a preference for slip on shoes.

As regards conducting a murder trial, it was nothing short of a circus

Odd?

delthedriver wrote: »

Italy is such a dysfunctional country.
They really live in cuckoo land. Probably the most corrupt country in Europe

They can barely rule their country, look at Berlusconis antics for years.

Well, we live in a country that can boast CJH and Bertie as their most popular elected leaders, a country that generously forces even it's poorest citizens to bail out billionaire bondholders, convicts wealthy sex attackers and lets them off if they pay a small fee to the victim, and looks set to re-elect FF again at the next election.
So I'm not going to throw stones.

AnonoBoy

To: Amanda@FoxyKnoxy.com

Re: PRIZE!!!

Dear Amanda!

CONGRATULATIONS!!! You have won a HOLIDAY to Italy . A jet awaits you at your local airport. It will fly you all expenses paid to the destination of your choice (as long as it's Italy!)

Regards,

Generous European Court System.

delthedriver

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Rubbish on the streets in Naples; incredibly chauvinistic culture; unhealthily image obsessed; societal aversion to technical progress; significant inequality; underlying racial attitudes and social exclusion; lack of political freedom; high levels of violence and organised crime. Truly dreadful country as they go tbh.

Fast cars and fast women, both unreliable:D

LuckyLloyd

Caveman1 wrote: »

Am I the only one who thinks she's ugly ? don't get the infatuation with her at all.

She's sexy, and the paper talk of her history and general behaviour would be where any 'infatuation' would lie. Classicly beautiful doesn't come into it.

starlings

Caveman1 wrote: »

Does double jeopardy not apply anymore ? or am I watching too much Law & Order

:pac:

way too much L&A!

Even if it was on the books in Italy, this wouldn't be a case of DJ because the Italian system has automatic appeal to a higher court and then the Supreme Court - this case has just fallen at the final hurdle and has to go back to the drawing board. It's a fairly unwieldy way of doing things and has clashed sensationally with the blunderbuss of American PR and a good-looking crazy girl.

frank reynolds

Caveman1 wrote: »

Does double jeopardy not apply anymore ? or am I watching too much Law & Order

she would have had to have been sentenced (wrongly), and carry out that sentence for double jeopardy to apply. and i dont think it's that straight and narrow either