"We buy cars for cash"

JuliusCaesar

Surely illegal advertising?

Seems to be stuck to every traffic light, and any pole at a junction.

Someone reluctant to pay for advertising.

Can they not be removed?

Dub13

No names on them just a phone number,so hard to prosecute.

RATM

Dub13 wrote: »

No names on them just a phone number,so hard to prosecute.

Couldn't DCC just ring them and pretend to have a car for sale and then fine them the €3k for littering when they show up ? Rewinding CCTV might also help identify who is responsible. They are literally all over the city at this stage and an eyesore at loads of lights and junctions.

Mr Simpson

Have you made a complaint to the DCC litter warden?

mrab

seen this one too. they are everywhere.

John Mason

What did the Litter Warden tell you, when you reported it?

uch

From Council Website:


In accordance with Section 19 of the Litter Pollution Act, 1997 – 2009, the placing of posters/signs/advertisements on poles or other structures in public places is illegal unless written permission has been given by the owner of the pole or structure in advance.

Jimminy Mc Fukhead

JuliusCaesar

They said "Report it to the Litter Hotline - 1800 251 500"

Rhand

What else would you use to buy cars with. Seashells? Horse droppings?

the groutch

report it to the Transport Department of DCC

Jumboman

There is a lot of these "cars for cash" posters all over Dublin. Anyone know whos behind them ? its seems to me there is something very dodgy or illegal going on. Maybe "cars for cash" is code for something else.

tallaghtmick

Jumboman wrote: »

There is a lot of these "cars for cash" posters all over Dublin. Anyone know whos behind them ? its seems to me there is something very dodgy or illegal going on. Maybe "cars for cash" is code for something else.

Car is worth 1000 they offer 300 or less, they buy ****heaps and put them on donedeal for 500, they are buying the cars usually nct failures do a cowboy job on them and cheat someone out of hard earned money.

Jumboman

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Car is worth 1000 they offer 300 or less, they buy ****heaps and put them on donedeal for 500, they are buying the cars usually nct failures do a cowboy job on them and cheat someone out of hard earned money.

Are they travelers by any chance ?

tallaghtmick

Jumboman wrote: »

Are they travelers by any chance ?

Sometimes.....

Birneybau

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Car is worth 1000 they offer 300 or less, they buy ****heaps and put them on donedeal for 500, they are buying the cars usually nct failures do a cowboy job on them and cheat someone out of hard earned money.

Jumboman wrote: »

Are they travelers by any chance ?

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Sometimes.....

Well, motorists anyway...

MadsL

I have removed posters like this in the past.

I was confronted by one irate huge offender, cheap furniture discount place that used to leave a trail of florescent posters all the way along the road leading to his industrial unit.

I spent one Sat morning cutting the things down - he screeches up, blocks my car and hops out roaring he's calling the guards. I also call the guards and tell them I'm being held by this guy and he won't let me leave.

Guards show up, I show them the law and say I'm picking up litter. He claims he's being victimised by me. Guard isn't happy that I only took his signs and not others. Eventually the Guard puts the signs in the back of his car and tells the two of us to get lost.

So. Advice - yes remove them, try to get other signs at the same time, and be prepared for a confrontation.

The law however is on your side.

MadsL

RATM wrote: »

Couldn't DCC just ring them and pretend to have a car for sale and then fine them the €3k for littering when they show up ? Rewinding CCTV might also help identify who is responsible. They are literally all over the city at this stage and an eyesore at loads of lights and junctions.

You haven't had much dealings with DCC have you

power pants

MadsL wrote: »

I have removed posters like this in the past.

I was confronted by one irate huge offender, cheap furniture discount place that used to leave a trail of florescent posters all the way along the road leading to his industrial unit.

I spent one Sat morning cutting the things down - he screeches up, blocks my car and hops out roaring he's calling the guards. I also call the guards and tell them I'm being held by this guy and he won't let me leave.

Guards show up, I show them the law and say I'm picking up litter. He claims he's being victimised by me. Guard isn't happy that I only took his signs and not others. Eventually the Guard puts the signs in the back of his car and tells the two of us to get lost.

So. Advice - yes remove them, try to get other signs at the same time, and be prepared for a confrontation.

The law however is on your side.

are you for real?

MadsL

power pants wrote: »

are you for real?

How so?

John Mason

MadsL wrote: »

I have removed posters like this in the past.

I was confronted by one irate huge offender, cheap furniture discount place that used to leave a trail of florescent posters all the way along the road leading to his industrial unit.

I spent one Sat morning cutting the things down - he screeches up, blocks my car and hops out roaring he's calling the guards. I also call the guards and tell them I'm being held by this guy and he won't let me leave.

Guards show up, I show them the law and say I'm picking up litter. He claims he's being victimised by me. Guard isn't happy that I only took his signs and not others. Eventually the Guard puts the signs in the back of his car and tells the two of us to get lost.

So. Advice - yes remove them, try to get other signs at the same time, and be prepared for a confrontation.

The law however is on your side.

wow, just wow :eek:

MadsL

John Mason wrote: »

wow, just wow :eek:

Picking up litter surprises you?

tomdempsey200

how is cutting down signs=picking up litter

lol

MadsL

tomdempsey200 wrote: »

how is cutting down signs=picking up litter

lol

Because that is how the Litter Act defines them.

19.—(1) Where any structure or other land, door, gate, window, tree, pole or post is in or is visible from a public place, a person who is not the owner, occupier or person in charge thereof shall not—

(a) exhibit or cause to be exhibited thereon any article or advertisement

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1997/en/act/pub/0012/sec0019.html#sec19


If they are defined as an offence under the Litter Act then then are litter...

Problem?

power pants

MadsL wrote: »

How so?

Don't know where to start tbh, work away if it makes you happy

MadsL

power pants wrote: »

Don't know where to start tbh, work away if it makes you happy

So you are all "are you for real" then "work away" when I post some facts on it.

Would you have reacted the same way if I said I go around picking up plastic bottles as they are litter? What was the "are you for real" reaction all about? Could you at least try to actually articulate what "don't know where to start" means...if you are going to attack me, please have some basis to do so.

Mr Whirly

Was it a particularly scenic route into the industrial estate? You can't really compare some lad with a legitimate business putting up a few signs to drum up business to what the car lads are up to.

Vic_08

Mr Whirly wrote: »

Was it a particularly scenic route into the industrial estate? You can't really compare some lad with a legitimate business putting up a few signs to drum up business to what the car lads are up to.

They are both Illegal and make whatever place they are put, SSSI or not look worse than it would without.

If everyone in the country running a "legitimate business" put up a half-dozen random signs then what would the place look like? Of course that is a ridiculous proposition but why is this guy different to everyone else? Why should he get to do something that we would all be up in arms over if everyone did it?

MadsL

Mr Whirly wrote: »

Was it a particularly scenic route into the industrial estate? You can't really compare some lad with a legitimate business putting up a few signs to drum up business to what the car lads are up to.

We are talking literally a sign on every lamp-post and telegraph pole for a distance of well over a mile and a half. Florescent yellow, put out every weekend when he thought the Litter Warden wouldn't catch him.

I didn't just remove his signs, I took down anything I came across. But his were particularly bad. He's out of business anyway.

power pants

MadsL wrote: »

So you are all "are you for real" then "work away" when I post some facts on it.

Would you have reacted the same way if I said I go around picking up plastic bottles as they are litter? What was the "are you for real" reaction all about? Could you at least try to actually articulate what "don't know where to start" means...if you are going to attack me, please have some basis to do so.

No, I just found your behaviour odd, wasting the guards time and everyone elses. I also think you have too much time on your hands and lastly, it is odd how you only "targeted" one set of signs and not the others

so as I say, carry on if it makes you feel better

MadsL

power pants wrote: »

No, I just found your behaviour odd, wasting the guards time and everyone elses. I also think you have too much time on your hands and lastly, it is odd how you only "targeted" one set of signs and not the others

so as I say, carry on if it makes you feel better

I didn't call the guards until the other chap did. I certainly didn't set out to waste police time.

As for "too much time on my hands" - you think it a waste of time to try and improve the surroundings of the city I lived in for the benefit of those around me. Really? And you are calling me odd? :rolleyes: I guess I should be more Mé Féin in future to fit in..

As for targeting, he was by far the worst that particular morning, I usually removed many other businesses illegal signs on my commute home.

reprazant

MadsL wrote: »

I didn't just remove his signs, I took down anything I came across. But his were particularly bad. He's out of business anyway.

If you took down all signs, how come the guard was annoyed that you had only taken down his signs and not others?

MadsL

reprazant wrote: »

If you took down all signs, how come the guard was annoyed that you had only taken down his signs and not others?

I hadn't got to any other yet that morning. This chap had quite the monopoly that day.

As I said above I usually removed others as well.

What's the issue with picking up litter?

chopper6

MadsL wrote: »

I hadn't got to any other yet that morning. This chap had quite the monopoly that day.

As I said above I usually removed others as well.

What's the issue with picking up litter?

It wasnt "picking up litter"...you were cutting down posters..and specific flyers whilst ignoring others.

I should advise a note of caution in your crusade.

MadsL

chopper6 wrote: »

It wasnt "picking up litter"...you were cutting down posters..and specific flyers whilst ignoring others.

Illegally erected posters, and I wasn't being selective - I was cleaning up one particular street. Once I finished that I would have got to others. It just happened that at the time the owner blocked me in, alll I had in the car was his posters. I would have regularly dispose of a rake of different businesses posters.

I should advise a note of caution in your crusade.

Why, would it be acceptable to be assaulted for cleaning up litter?

chopper6

MadsL wrote: »

Why, would it be acceptable to be assaulted for cleaning up litter?

I'm not saying it would be acceptable per se but you're not an authourised litter collector are you? You certainly don't have an official mandate to remove posters,illegal or not.

I'm just saying that some people may regard you as a bit of a busybody that's all.

Mr Simpson

chopper6 wrote: »

I'm not saying it would be acceptable per se but you're not an authourised litter collector are you? You certainly don't have an official mandate to remove posters,illegal or not.

I'm just saying that some people may regard you as a bit of a busybody that's all.

There's no such thing as an authorised little collector. Anyone can remove litter. The only time you need a licence is for collection and disposal of rubbish .ie. A waste collection company.

Its starting to get a bit personal, can we stop that please.

the world wonders

chopper6 wrote: »

I'm just saying that some people may regard you as a bit of a busybody that's all.

And plenty of other people would be grateful to him for showing a bit of public spirit and standing up to intimidation from litter louts.

SCOOP 64

MadsL , keep the good work up.

chopper6

Mr Simpson wrote: »

There's no such thing as an authorised little collector. Anyone can remove litter. The only time you need a licence is for collection and disposal of rubbish .ie. A waste collection company.

There's a difference between somebody picking up rubbish on the street and somebody pulling down posters and flyers...no?

January

chopper6 wrote: »

There's a difference between somebody picking up rubbish on the street and somebody pulling down posters and flyers...no?

If they're illegal there's no difference.

Mr Simpson

chopper6 wrote: »

There's a difference between somebody picking up rubbish on the street and somebody pulling down posters and flyers...no?

Legally speaking, no

chopper6

January wrote: »

If they're illegal there's no difference.

That might not be seen like that by the person sticking up the flyers...i'm just saying...flyers cost time and money to distribute,dropping a bit of litter doesnt cost some people a thought.


Illegal or not you need to be careful when you're pulling stuff down that other(maybe less genteel) people have stuck up.

00112984

the world wonders wrote: »

And plenty of other people would be grateful to him for showing a bit of public spirit and standing up to intimidation from litter louts.

Me for one. There are a couple of roads near me that get similarly festooned with flourescent posters every weekend. Time I went for a walk and cleaned up a few.

CreepingDeath

power pants wrote: »

No, I just found your behaviour odd, wasting the guards time and everyone elses. I also think you have too much time on your hands and lastly, it is odd how you only "targeted" one set of signs and not the others

so as I say, carry on if it makes you feel better

That's very condescending.
If someone goes out of their way to clean up their local environment, I say fair play to them.
He done something proactive and well within the law.

chopper6 wrote: »

I'm not saying it would be acceptable per se but you're not an authourised litter collector are you? You certainly don't have an official mandate to remove posters,illegal or not.

Wow, you should complain about all the tidy towns volunteers as well.
All those busy bodies who are picking up other peoples rubbish, cleaning communal areas which the council don't do with enough frequency etc.

Also removing those "we buy cars for cash" could save someone from being scammed / injured by a car unfit to be on the road.

chopper6

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Also removing those "we buy cars for cash" could save someone from being scammed / injured by a car unfit to be on the road.

So you'd be saving gullible people from getting burned in a cash transaction?

Maybe pull down election posters too to save peopel voting for politicians who will ruin thier lives.

CreepingDeath

chopper6 wrote: »

Maybe pull down election posters too to save peopel voting for politicians who will ruin thier lives.

Political posters have permission to be put up, and are part of the democratic process to advertise candidates.

Some sheepskin wearing chancer trying to sell poor quality furniture is not.

Mr Simpson

chopper6 wrote: »

So you'd be saving gullible people from getting burned in a cash transaction?

Maybe pull down election posters too to save peopel voting for politicians who will ruin thier lives.

They're allowed to be put up and it is an offence to tamper with them, completely different.

January

chopper6 wrote: »

That might not be seen like that by the person sticking up the flyers...i'm just saying...flyers cost time and money to distribute,dropping a bit of litter doesnt cost some people a thought.


Illegal or not you need to be careful when you're pulling stuff down that other(maybe less genteel) people have stuck up.

To be fair, the people that put them up probably don't give a fiddlers about the law.

chopper6

January wrote: »

To be fair, the people that put them up probably don't give a fiddlers about the law.

Thats my point...be carefull about pulling stuff like that down

MadsL

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

MadsL , keep the good work up.

Thank you, but I have had to emigrate so have to pass the baton..

00112984 wrote: »

Me for one. There are a couple of roads near me that get similarly festooned with flourescent posters every weekend. Time I went for a walk and cleaned up a few.

Good stuff. I recommend a van/car and some company with you - bit less intimidating if you get hassled. I used to toss them in the recycling - but they could be used as things for children to aint on, make things out of - maybe someone in the community could use them.