mazda 6 views???

carolinej

what do ppl think of this car??
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Mazda/Mazda6/1.8-SDN-/34513631089210330/advert?channel=CARS

The Pontiac

Looks good.

It's on thier website for a grand dearer.

Mazda 6 petrol are a bloody good car.

lway

Nice looking car. Been looking at the Mazda 6 myself but in diesel, only real complaint about them i've read is that they can be prone to rust so check the underside and wheel arches.

The Pontiac

lway wrote: »

Nice looking car. Been looking at the Mazda 6 myself but in diesel, only real complaint about them i've read is that they can be prone to rust so check the underside and wheel arches.

What year are you looking at? I thought the Mazda 6 diesel was a right heap of a troublesome lump?

lway

Hmm, been looking at 2008 and newer for the new tax system. Found it hard to see any second hand models at any of the dealers i've been to visit. Would love to know more if there are issues with them. Leaning more toward a Honda Accord at the moment after reading a bit about rust issues. I thought the Mazda 6's were pretty bulletproof mechanically.

The Pontiac

lway wrote: »

Hmm, been looking at 2008 and newer for the new tax system. Found it hard to see any second hand models at any of the dealers i've been to visit. Would love to know more if there are issues with them. Leaning more toward a Honda Accord at the moment after reading a bit about rust issues. I thought the Mazda 6's were pretty bulletproof mechanically.

Depends on what engine. Lot of threads on here about them..

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056892280

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055621785

carolinej

thanks for replys. would it be advisable to get an independent mechanic to look at it first. I thought maybe the milage is abit low for an 07? Is a 1.8 petrol economical - within reason! Im mot familiar with the garage either.

bazz26

The one in the advert is a 2006.

Sam Kade

carolinej wrote: »

thanks for replys. would it be advisable to get an independent mechanic to look at it first. I thought maybe the milage is abit low for an 07? Is a 1.8 petrol economical - within reason! Im mot familiar with the garage either.

I am getting 36 to 40mpg from my 07 1.8 Mazda 6 it depends on how you drive.

carolinej

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Mazda/Mazda6/1.8-COMF/34413638168040530/advert?channel=CARS

opinions on this mazda?? thanks

Tea 1000

carolinej wrote: »

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Mazda/Mazda6/1.8-COMF/34413638168040530/advert?channel=CARS

opinions on this mazda?? thanks

The one in the first post looks a lot cleaner, that looks grubby. Worth checking both out though.

CiniO

carolinej wrote: »

what do ppl think of this car??
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Mazda/Mazda6/1.8-SDN-/34513631089210330/advert?channel=CARS

Leaving all the positive sides of mazda 6 (It is indeed great car) consider it's depreciation, which might be horrendous.

Obviously it all depends how long are you going to keep it. If it's going to be several years after which you are going to scrap this car - then it's worth buying.

But f.e. I bought 2004 Mazda 6 bit less than 2 years ago. It was 2.0 higher spec model, in quite good condition. I paid 3900. (car was 7 years old then, the same as this one you pointed here is 7 years old now). I could have bought cheaper ones for around 3500, but with smaller engine, basic spec and probably not in such great form (I've seen several of those mazdas before I bought them, so I know it's hard to get a well cared example)
After less then 2 years, I'm trying to sell it, and even though car is not even full 9 years old, I had price down to 2500, and no one even rang once over last month. There seem to be no interest whatsoever, so it looks like that my car depreciated a lot, and I won't be able to sell it for as low as 2500, even though it's in a very good shape.

I'm only guessing, but if you buy it now for 4950, in 2 years, you won't be able to sell it either for 2500, so you might loose nearly 50% of it's value nearly in 2 years.

Tea 1000

Loosing €1500 in 2 years is hardly massive depreciation! Buying a 6 for 4,500 and keep it for 4 years and even giving it away for free would still be considered cheap motoring.

CiniO

Tea 1000 wrote: »

Loosing €1500 in 2 years is hardly massive depreciation! Buying a 6 for 4,500 and keep it for 4 years and even giving it away for free would still be considered cheap motoring.

I think it's too expensive.
First of all it not full 2 year, as I boutgh it in July.
Secondly it will be probably over 1500, as I doubt I will be able to sell it for 2500 by now.
Also I invested nearly a grand in this car (maintenance, servicing, clutch, brakes, tyres, etc).

I wouldn't call it cheap motoring, assuming I'll sell it for 2k in July it will be 2k depreciation in 2 years (1k per year) which is actually 50% of the car value.

I think it would be better now to buy a rather newer car for 10k, keep it for 5 years, and sell it for 5k then. The same amount of depreciation (1k per year) but with newer car, possibly cost of maintenance would be much lower.


I also have a 01 fiat bravo, which I purchased 5 years ago for 1300. I've done 50k miles in it, and by now I could sell it for about 600 - 700 easily as car is working 100%. So here depreciation was below a grand in 5 years, and it took 5 years to loose 50% of it's value, comparing to 7 year old mazda which depricated 50% in 2 years.

I'm not advising OP not to buy this mazda - it is indeed really good car.

But my experience shows, that buying 7 year old petrol car these days (for about 4k - 5k), will mean huge deprication comparing to other options.
Probably it would be better to buy older car for cheaper, or newer car for more, to loose less on depreciation.

The Pontiac

CiniO wrote: »

I think it's too expensive.
First of all it not full 2 year, as I boutgh it in July.
Secondly it will be probably over 1500, as I doubt I will be able to sell it for 2500 by now.
Also I invested nearly a grand in this car (maintenance, servicing, clutch, brakes, tyres, etc).

I wouldn't call it cheap motoring, assuming I'll sell it for 2k in July it will be 2k depreciation in 2 years (1k per year) which is actually 50% of the car value.

I think it would be better now to buy a rather newer car for 10k, keep it for 5 years, and sell it for 5k then. The same amount of depreciation (1k per year) but with newer car, possibly cost of maintenance would be much lower.


I also have a 01 fiat bravo, which I purchased 5 years ago for 1300. I've done 50k miles in it, and by now I could sell it for about 600 - 700 easily as car is working 100%. So here depreciation was below a grand in 5 years, and it took 5 years to loose 50% of it's value, comparing to 7 year old mazda which depricated 50% in 2 years.

I'm not advising OP not to buy this mazda - it is indeed really good car.

But my experience shows, that buying 7 year old petrol car these days (for about 4k - 5k), will mean huge deprication comparing to other options.
Probably it would be better to buy older car for cheaper, or newer car for more, to loose less on depreciation.

What "newer car" can you buy today for €10k, and sell it in 2018 for €5k?

That's assuming the OP had €10k at their disposal and doesn't have to get a bank loan with interest payable.

I think a good condition 2006 Mazda 6 for €4k-€4.5k is an absolute bargain. This talk of depreciation on a car in this price bracket is absolute nonsense. A brand new car would lose that alone the minute you drive it out of the showroom.

CiniO

The Pontiac wrote: »

What "newer car" can you buy today for €10k, and sell it in 2018 for €5k?

I don't know, but surely we could find something.

Example: http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4756380
This is 9 year old car for 5k.
You can buy the same model from 2009 (4 year old) for less than 10k.
So it looks like depreciation over 5 years is less than 50%.

That's assuming the OP had €10k at their disposal and doesn't have to get a bank loan with interest payable.

True. But interest might still be less than horrendous depreciation.

I think a good condition 2006 Mazda 6 for €4k-€4.5k is an absolute bargain.

As a person having just 2 years older mazda 6 in good condition for sale, and having no interested in it whatsoever for 2500, I tend to think that 4 - 4.5k for 2006 is not so much bargain.

This talk of depreciation on a car in this price bracket is absolute nonsense. A brand new car would lose that alone the minute you drive it out of the showroom.

Of course. Brand new cars depreciate the most.

Maybe it's just me who did quite bad deal on buying petrol mazda, but it looks like was not worth it.
2 years ago there was still some market for bigger engine petrol cars.
Since then tax went up significently on them, and post 08 cars with low tax rates become more affordable, that's why people seem not to desire older bigger petrol cars anymore.
And in two years time from now, this tendency is most likely going to increase even further, that's why I think that buying a 7 year old 1.8 petrol mazda for nearly 5k, will cause massive depreciation.

The Pontiac

CiniO wrote: »

I don't know, but surely we could find something.

Example: http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4756380
This is 9 year old car for 5k.
You can buy the same model from 2009 (4 year old) for less than 10k.
So it looks like depreciation over 5 years is less than 50%.



True. But interest might still be less than horrendous depreciation.


As a person having just 2 years older mazda 6 in good condition for sale, and having no interested in it whatsoever for 2500, I tend to think that 4 - 4.5k for 2006 is not so much bargain.


Of course. Brand new cars depreciate the most.

Maybe it's just me who did quite bad deal on buying petrol mazda, but it looks like was not worth it.
2 years ago there was still some market for bigger engine petrol cars.
Since then tax went up significently on them, and post 08 cars with low tax rates become more affordable, that's why people seem not to desire older bigger petrol cars anymore.
And in two years time from now, this tendency is most likely going to increase even further, that's why I think that buying a 7 year old 1.8 petrol mazda for nearly 5k, will cause massive depreciation.

Okay.

What car would you recommend to the OP? I'm assuming they're going for a family saloon as it meets their requirements.

I also assume they want to spend €4k-€5k, as the two cars listed were in this price bracket.

Your argument of spending €10k on a different car, thus reducing depreciation, might not be possible for the OP.

I see what your saying re. bigger engine pre-2008 petrol cars. Nobody wants them. I see that as an advantage though. Still think the Mazda 6 is one of the best buys out there.

The last few cars I bought were in this exact price range (€4k-€5k). Depreciation never even entered my head, as it was largely irrelevant after a few years when I decided to change. If the OP is deciding to change in the next 12-24 months, then you might have a case. But I still can't think of a better car than a Mazda 6, for that money.

Tea 1000

My point is that a Mazda 6 petrol in good nick for €5k now will last you many years, so depreciation isn't so much of a factor anymore. Yes, you can do better on the depreciation front, but you're taking a gamble. That Prius would be a higher risk car to try to run for 5 years. It could potentially go from 10k to a ball of metal and lithium ion in your yard with some hybrid-battery issue that'll cost you a lot to fix and is worth zero while it's in the broken state.
A €5k Mazda is much less likely to break down, and if you keep it 5 years you could sell it for €1500, meaning €3500 depreciation over 5 years, or if it completely goes balls up then you've only really lost your potential €1500 sale.

gerardk55

Hi carolinej,

I have a 2005 Mazda 6 1.8 from new which has 365,000kms on it. It's a super car both reliability wise and comfort wise. I regularly spend up to 6/7hrs a day in the car, with no major complaints. As mentioned, economy isn't the best, around 35mpg but they're relatively simple mechanically and once regularly serviced will keep going and going. The one in the first link would be my choice as it a better spec and overall cleaner looking car. It should have air conditioning and cruise control which the second definitely doesn't. Best of luck with your decision.

gerardk55

JohnBoy26

They're only ok imo. They are reliable enough but are cheaply built imo.

bobin fudge

saw one similar to the one op posted, colour and model but the one I saw was a SE and I think a 07

the dealer was wanting 8k for it though!!!!

CiniO

The Pontiac wrote: »

Okay.

What car would you recommend to the OP? I'm assuming they're going for a family saloon as it meets their requirements.

I also assume they want to spend €4k-€5k, as the two cars listed were in this price bracket.

I don't know.
Maybe she would decide to spend less and buy mine

Your argument of spending €10k on a different car, thus reducing depreciation, might not be possible for the OP.

I see what your saying re. bigger engine pre-2008 petrol cars. Nobody wants them. I see that as an advantage though. Still think the Mazda 6 is one of the best buys out there.

Car-wise it is. But price-wise not necessarily.
TBH this 06 Mazda for nearly 5k seems a bit dear, considering there is plenty others, maybe a year or two older, but for half of that price.

The last few cars I bought were in this exact price range (€4k-€5k). Depreciation never even entered my head, as it was largely irrelevant after a few years when I decided to change. If the OP is deciding to change in the next 12-24 months, then you might have a case. But I still can't think of a better car than a Mazda 6, for that money.

True
If someone is planning to keep car for longer, depreciation doesn't really matter. And in that case it's best to buy the best car possible for available money.