Flooding in Blackpool. Again.

evilivor

The village is underwater again it seems. Maybe the developers will finally have their wish and it will finally be killed off by this.

ABajaninCork

Looks like it - unfortunately.

I wonder if the Centra's been hit again? That'll be the fourth time he's been flooded. How much longer can the local businesses carry on?

D2D

ABajaninCork

Was that taken tonight? Poor people...

efc67

Trying to link a video of it on facebook, but not having much luck

efc67

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5-gGAt7228

hoodwinked

college road is said to be impassable...

Ludo

College road is up a hill surely? Do you mean the western road?

its me_330

Anyone know how great william o brien strret is. Whether its flooded or not. Ive a sis livin der she isjust finished doing up her house from d last flood.

hufpc8w3adnk65

its me_330 wrote: »

Anyone know how great william o brien strret is. Whether its flooded or not. Ive a sis livin der she isjust finished doing up her house from d last flood.

Are those pics taken tonight?

Sephiroth_dude

Is the city flooded?

ABajaninCork

Blackpool is. Probably Douglas and Glanmire as well.

54kroc

The river in Glanmire is frighteningly high at the moment but it hasn't flooded where I am yet.

AugustusMinimus

hoodwinked wrote: »

college road is said to be impassable...

This is most certainly not the case.


High tide has just passed. I hope the city centre didn't get done again. Would be the 3rd time in 9 years if so.


The flooding back in 2004 was easily the worst I've ever experienced. Much worse than 2009.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z23rQN8zhAs

twinytwo

its the same old ****e in blackpool, the council put in a culvert that cant handle the amount of water that needs to go through it during heavy rains. They refuse to do anything about it. Sure it took them over a year to fix the quay walls.

I feel sorry for the people in blackpool.

Grand Moff Tarkin

This is what happens when you build a shopping center on a flood plain. Thanks again Clayton Love.

pwurple

Grand Moff Tarkin wrote: »

This is what happens when you build a shopping center on a flood plain. Thanks again Clayton Love.

Or the planners?

This is a disgrace. Those businesses more than likely can't get flood insurance anymore, so they will be bearing the brunt of this again. The council spend a fortune on vanity projects and unneeded traffic lights and abandon the businesses and homes in blackpool. People's jobs and livelihoods affected in this economic climate.

AugustusMinimus

pwurple wrote: »

Or the planners?

This is a disgrace. Those businesses more than likely can't get flood insurance anymore, so they will be bearing the brunt of this again. The council spend a fortune on vanity projects and unneeded traffic lights and abandon the businesses and homes in blackpool. People's jobs and livelihoods affected in this economic climate.

Indeed. What a waste of money was involved with the removal of the Silver Quay roundabout and indeed the removal and then the subsequent return of the roundabout outside of St Finbarrs GAA club.

MrFrisp

And not to mention the stupid waste of money on bicycle lanes,and new bicycle stands scattered around the City..

They must believe that stands for bikes are more important than saving peoples homes,and businesses from flooding.
.

hoodwinked

Ludo wrote: »

College road is up a hill surely? Do you mean the western road?

lol thats what i said too, but no they said college road had so much surface water it was impassable,

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

This is most certainly not the case.

thanks, i was sceptical too but 96fm were announcing it was.

twinytwo wrote: »

its the same old ****e in blackpool, the council put in a culvert that cant handle the amount of water that needs to go through it during heavy rains. They refuse to do anything about it. Sure it took them over a year to fix the quay walls.

I feel sorry for the people in blackpool.

thats so true, they managed to sort the culvert in Douglas out and we had no flooding this time, so the question now is why the hell won't they do something about the blackpool one???

Spindle

hoodwinked wrote: »

lol thats what i said too, but no they said college road had so much surface water it was impassable,


thanks, i was sceptical too but 96fm were announcing it was.

The drains on College road have been blocked for weeks outside the gates if UCC, anytime there is rain, the water backs up by the speed ramps/crossings, usually resulting in pedestrians getting splashed as cars come off the ramp.

I wonder who is to blame for that................

Cork City Council and even worse council that the Cork County Council. They use the same excuse all the time, it was an exceptional amount of rain, a once off event, we didn't know there would be this much rain.

ABajaninCork

The council are FAR too busy lining the pockets of the councillors, and pandering to the whims of Diamuid Gavin to worry about silly things like flood defences and making sure the roads are fit for purpose.

What is it about the Northside of the city that there is such an air of neglect? I've said it before, but if they re-developed Blackpool Village properly, it could be every bit as nice as Douglas. But the place has turned into a real eyesore now. There's seems to be an air of hopelessness about the place. It is of further interest to note that the culverts in Douglas have apparently been fixed. Why is that, I wonder? :rolleyes:

Solair

Do they actually look out their windows at City Hall at all?
This is one of the wettest parts of Western Europe.

Heavy rain is to be expected, and is very regular!

We need the appropriately sized drains to deal with these kinds of deluges. They're not unusual occurrences.

The city has been flooding for as long as it has existed. There are paintings of it flooded in previous centuries.

People really need to pay attention at the next local elections and demand action on this.

hoodwinked wrote: »

lol thats what i said too, but no they said college road had so much surface water it was impassable,


thanks, i was sceptical too but 96fm were announcing it was.


thats not true, they managed to sort the culvert in Douglas out and we had no flooding this time, so the question now is why the hell won't they do something about the blackpool one???

From what I can see it's just pure class-discrimination. Douglas is a wealthy, influential suburb.
On the Northside if there were some kind of Montenotte landslide or something, you can be damn sure it would be sorted out in a few weeks.

Blackpool's just ignored most of the time from what I can see.

The Shandon area & Blackpool village are just starting falling apart.

Given that Shandon's supposedly the main tourism area of the city, you'd really think they'd get their act together and sort it out.

I wouldn't really put it into a Northside vs Southside thing. It's more just about wealth and influence and ability to kick up a huge stink.

There are similarly ignored areas on the South side e.g. Barrack Street (until recent refurbishment), Douglas Street area, and that entire part of the central island opposite Union Quay which seems to be semi-derelict, despite being within a stone's through of the South Mall.

The residents of Blackpool need to get onto every journalist, paper, media outlet and make a LOT of noise about this. It won't get fixed otherwise.

If people aren't flood-insured, this is going to result in a lot of abandoned, derelict buildings in Blackpool this time, especially if they're leased commercial buildings / rental accommodation as people will just move out.

hoodwinked

Solair wrote: »

From what I can see it's just pure class-discrimination. Douglas is a wealthy, influential suburb.
On the Northside if there were some kind of Montenotte landslide or something, you can be damn sure it would be sorted out in a few weeks.

Blackpool's just ignored most of the time from what I can see.

The Shandon area & Blackpool village are just starting falling apart.

Given that Shandon's supposedly the main tourism area of the city, you'd really think they'd get their act together and sort it out.

I wouldn't really put it into a Northside vs Southside thing. It's more just about wealth and influence and ability to kick up a huge stink.

There are similarly ignored areas on the South side e.g. Barrack Street (until recent refurbishment), Douglas Street area, and that entire part of the central island opposite Union Quay which seems to be semi-derelict, despite being within a stone's through of the South Mall.

The residents of Blackpool need to get onto every journalist, paper, media outlet and make a LOT of noise about this. It won't get fixed otherwise.

If people aren't flood-insured, this is going to result in a lot of abandoned, derelict buildings in Blackpool this time, especially if they're leased commercial buildings / rental accommodation as people will just move out.

i agree, and last nights front page of the evening echo says it all....

it isn't a northside v southside thing, to be fair if you take childrens play area's the northside has an abundance of them, tell me the nearest play area if you live in bishopstown,

it seems to me money is being allocated both sides of the lee in the wrong areas, in Douglas/bishopstown it goes on developing the shops/buildings/culverts.

in blackpool it goes on play areas and clubs when the opposite for both is needed

run_Forrest_run

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

Indeed. What a waste of money was involved with the removal of the Silver Quay roundabout and indeed the removal and then the subsequent return of the roundabout outside of St Finbarrs GAA club.

ah now, there's already a mega thread for that issue.

twinytwo

hoodwinked wrote: »

lol thats what i said too, but no they said college road had so much surface water it was impassable,


thanks, i was sceptical too but 96fm were announcing it was.




thats not true, they managed to sort the culvert in Douglas out and we had no flooding this time, so the question now is why the hell won't they do something about the blackpool one???

How is not true, this has been going around in circles for years.The culvert in blackpool is 4 meters wide ( it needs to be twice that.. at least)and it never gets cleaned out. Add the fact they dumped a load of stone into the river near to blackpool to "strengthen" the wall... all they did was make the river more shallow. Its retarded.. the clowns in charge of this clearly have no idea what they are doing.

In douglas when you have the likes of dunnes etc getting flooded they do something about it.... blackpool is homes and few small businesses

hoodwinked

twinytwo wrote: »

How is not true, this has been going around in circles for years.The culvert in blackpool is 4 meters wide ( it needs to be twice that.. at least)and it never gets cleaned out. Add the fact they dumped a load of stone into the river near to blackpool to "strengthen" the wall... all they did was make the river more shallow. Its retarded.. the clowns in charge of this clearly have no idea what they are doing.

In douglas when you have the likes of dunnes etc getting flooded they do something about it.... blackpool is homes and few small businesses

my apologies, that was meant to read "Thats so true".

ofcork

My mother worked in blackpool 30 years ago and remembers flooding there so its not a new problem,something needs to be done asap.

ABajaninCork

My in-laws are from the area too. There's been flooding as far back as they can remember, but nothing's ever been done, like you say. I'm at a loss to understand WHY.

Did anyone see the RTE news today, BTW? They had a piece on the Blackpool floods on there with the owner of the Centra's saying his bit. How the **** the council could claim the culvert was clear at 4pm (with a straight face), when a digger was filmed taking out a tractor tyre? Clearly, the culvert WASN'T checked. The City Manager must think we're as thick as he is...

pwurple

The last time douglas flooded there were trees blocking the culvert. For a while after that, whenever there was heavy rain they had a digger on standby ready to clear it out. Who paid for that... I don't know. Maybe it was the shopping center?

They were talking about this massive tractor tyre blocking the culvert in blackpool last night, but in fairness... If one tyre can block it to that extent, what size could it possibly be? It must be TINY! The rain wasn't that prolonged, and it wasn't the heaviest I've ever seen either.

KCAccidental

MrFrisp wrote: »

And not to mention the stupid waste of money on bicycle lanes,and new bicycle stands scattered around the City..

They must believe that stands for bikes are more important than saving peoples homes,and businesses from flooding.
.

the money for the bike stands came from the NTA

pwurple

KCAccidental wrote: »

the money for the bike stands came from the NTA

Then take the giant wad of wasted cash off the NTA and give it to the councils.

Lucena

pwurple wrote: »

Then take the giant wad of wasted cash off the NTA and give it to the councils.

Whoa! Let's stop doing anything not related to flood alleviation!
:eek:

A_Sober_Paddy

It's what happens when you build on flood plains...pretty much a lot of cork are flood plains, so its inevitable that there going to flood...just another mistake of the boom

Grand Moff Tarkin

At least the Centra is up and running and did not have to shut for any length of time which is some good news.

funnights74

Grand Moff Tarkin wrote: »

This is what happens when you build a shopping center on a flood plain. Thanks again Clayton Love.

This is the same reason why Clonakilty has had so many floods in recent years. Developers built houses near a local flood plain blocking the exit of any heavy downfalls.
Ever since then they've been mopping up water on a regular basis.

professore

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

It's what happens when you build on flood plains...pretty much a lot of cork are flood plains, so its inevitable that there going to flood...just another mistake of the boom

That part of Blackpool has been developed for at least 150 years???? The old Jameson cottages are there - so unless you're referring to a boom in the 1800s the point isn't valid.

Grand Moff Tarkin

professore wrote: »

That part of Blackpool has been developed for at least 150 years???? The old Jameson cottages are there - so unless you're referring to a boom in the 1800s the point isn't valid.

I don't think the shopping center was built back in the 1800s and i can recall from my bush drinking days in the pole field that a bit of rain use to turn the place into a bog.

professore

Grand Moff Tarkin wrote: »

I don't think the shopping center was built back in the 1800s and i can recall from my bush drinking days in the pole field that a bit of rain use to turn the place into a bog.

No, but the flooding shown is on the Watercourse road? Nowhere near the shopping centre? [Edit] Just realised the clue is in the name ... Watercourse Road ....

professore

Blackpool was the scene of Industry in Cork in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. In this district, various attempts were made at various times to start or revive the manufacture of textiles such as broadcloth, blankets, flannels, hosiery, thread, braid and rope. The leather industry was also vibrant in Blackpool with no fewer than 46 tanyards at work there in 1837 giving employment to over 700 hands and tanning on average 110,000 hides annually.

From 1835 onwards tanners found it necessary to import hides from as far afield as Montevideo and Gibraltar in order to supplement local supplies.

Richard Griffith’s Evaluation of 1852 listed twenty-one tanneries in the Blackpool area. By the turn of the twentieth century only a handful of tanneries remained in production. The main tannery was Dunn’s on the Watercourse Road. One of the most extensive tanyards in Cork belonged to Daniel, fourth son of Jeremiah Murphy. This was located in Blackpool. The firm of Daniel Murphy & Sons was not affected by the decline, which ruined many tanning enterprises following the 1830’s. A partnership formed with the firm of Dunn Brothers maintained the business and the new firm became the largest tanning concern in the country at the time”. The Famine dealt the industry a very serious blow from which it never recovered. From that date onwards, the industry steadily declined.

Distilling became significant in the Cork region only during the last decades of the eighteenth century. Hewitt’s Watercourse Distillery was established in 1792 by Thomas Hewitt, John Teulon (both butter merchants) and Richard Blunt (a London distiller). By 1794 the production and sale of whiskey had begun.

In 1834 the Hewitt family took sole ownership of the distillery. The Hewitt family sold the distillery to the Cork Distillers Company in 1868. By 1876, distilling had ceased at the Watercourse Distillery, although the maltings, cornstores and warehouses were still used by the company.

Grand Moff Tarkin

professore wrote: »

No, but the flooding shown is on the Watercourse road? Nowhere near the shopping centre? [Edit] Just realised the clue is in the name ... Watercourse Road ....

The Pole(or tuckers)field use to absorb the rain and stop the water from making it's way down into the main Blackpool village the stream by the church never had to deal with the water levels it now has to deal with in the days before the shopping center was built. Also the Watercourse Road would be from the service station towards Murphys Brewery.

starch4ser

hoodwinked wrote: »

college road is said to be impassable...

Yeah, I heard Knocknaheeny is under 6 feet of water...

pwurple

Lucena wrote: »

Whoa! Let's stop doing anything not related to flood alleviation!
:eek:

Actually, shouldn't the NTA be dealing with this kind of flood prevention anyway? I mean, the culvert is built under the road.

Stop spending it on shiny bike racks and fix the flooding.