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Sexist hiring of staff.

  • 21-03-2013 9:33pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,407 ✭✭✭


    So I saw on my Fb that a bar from my area is advertising for female only bar staff and told guys to not apply.
    We are looking for a female bartender to join our team have you got the skills if so send us on your CV sorry guys all the guy positions are filled


    Surely if I am more qualified at pouring a pint of warm bavaria I should be hired over a girl.

    So, Sexist or not?

    in before the sexiest of staff.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    Yes, it is sexist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Nika Bolokov


    Boobs.


    Simple as. And thank God for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭eoins23456


    whelans?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭hoodwinked


    wouldn't it also be sexist if they only hired men?



    catch 22!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,407 ✭✭✭lkionm


    eoins23456 wrote: »
    whelans?

    Not allowed say but consider why I am responding.


    Take that Boards.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    lkionm wrote: »
    So I saw on my Fb that a bar from my area is advertising for female only bar staff and told guys to not apply.




    Surely if I am more qualified at pouring a pint of warm bavaria I should be hired over a girl.

    So, Sexist or not?

    in before the sexiest of staff.
    Go there and say they can hire your staff anytime.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    This happens on a regular basis, looking for females over males. I'm sure it happens in reverse as well though,though not as much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    hoodwinked wrote: »
    wouldn't it also be sexist if they only hired men?



    catch 22!

    Yes... /nodding slowly at hoodwinked waiting for the lights to come on...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 221 ✭✭Mr. Wong


    Ah yes, the old sexism is a fecker. 'Cos when I'm sitting at a bar I don't want to see some floozy with her tits in my face, no, I want to drink my point knowing that the person in front of me has had their human rights exercised. Good old Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭hoodwinked


    humbert wrote: »
    Yes... /nodding slowly at hoodwinked waiting for the lights to come on...

    dammit! thats what i get for playing Simpsons, while texting and reading/responding to after hours all at once! :o


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭sfwcork


    I like looking at boobs when boozing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 835 ✭✭✭kingcobra


    This happens on a regular basis, looking for females over males. I'm sure it happens in reverse as well though,though not as much.

    However when it happens the other way the feminists come out and choke the life out of the business :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 221 ✭✭Mr. Wong


    hoodwinked wrote: »
    wouldn't it also be sexist if they only hired men?



    catch 22!
    What? This makes no sense. Are you perhaps a little dim?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,407 ✭✭✭lkionm


    This happens on a regular basis, looking for females over males. I'm sure it happens in reverse as well though,though not as much.

    I know it happens illicitly and hot girls will get a job over an ugly girl in retail because of boobs but I can't remember it being so blatantly advertised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,802 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    Thinly veiled "Would you prefer to look at moobs or boobs" thread .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    Of course it's sexist.

    I used to work in a place where all the bar and floor staff were hot girls and the bar management were guys. No female managers at all. That is the way we were told to hire.

    The owner was a woman and it was her direction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭68Murph68


    1) Get a record of the bar's posting.
    2) Apply for a job.
    3) When they don't hire you take a case and get that sweet compensation $$$


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭TheUsual


    The bar staff should be 50/50 to be fair.

    50% Polish ladies.
    50% Russian ladies.

    Tis only simple mathematics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    Ted_YNWA wrote: »
    Thinly veiled "Would you prefer to look at moobs or boobs" thread .
    *yawn*
    http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2d5cpEjLe1qldp2xo1_400.gif


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭Daveysil15


    TheUsual wrote: »
    The bar staff should be 50/50 to be fair.

    50% Polish ladies.
    50% Russian ladies.

    Tis only simple mathematics.

    What about the poor lithuanians? :(


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    yes it's sexist but it's their business and i'm sure they have their reasons
    no harm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭I Luv Crysis


    .... With sexy results!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,263 ✭✭✭Gongoozler


    Drop me a pm and tell me where op :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭jaffacakesyum


    It is sexist, of course. But as someone else mentioned, hot girls will get hired over ugly girls in some jobs (and hot men will get hired over ugly men in some jobs). I'm not sure what to call that, it's not sexist (looks-ist maybe? :pac:) But it's the same principle; they're hiring someone based on their appearance rather than their abilities. I'm never going to get a job in a fancy clothes shop cos I'm not good looking enough and I wouldn't particularly complain about that. I wouldn't particularly complain if a men's gay bar said they hire "Men only", even though that's sexist.

    It's a tough one. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    yes it's sexist but it's their business and i'm sure they have their reasons
    no harm

    Agreed. I hate it when girls are not considered for labouring jobs on building sites. Surely they can do it just as well as a guy and be as productive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    yes it's sexist but it's their business and i'm sure they have their reasons
    no harm

    Their reasons are simple.

    Loads of good lookin women behind the bar = more men in the place.

    Men will drink a lot more than women = moar money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,802 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    Rabies wrote: »


    Apologies for the low brow comment, has there ever been a case of sexism being brought about anti-men issues.

    The bar is better off letting everyone apply & interview et al ... and only hire women then. This would create less outcry. Men would go to the bar a lot more, thus increasing revenue, saves on advertising .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    would they hire me? i have excellent bitch tits


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    would they hire me? i have excellent bitch tits

    Depends.
    How do you look in a tight low cut top with your stomach on show?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭TheUsual


    Daveysil15 wrote: »
    What about the poor lithuanians? :(

    You're right, hire another 50% Lithuanians.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    Rabies wrote: »
    Depends.
    How do you look in a tight low cut top with your stomach on show?

    vicky pollard from little britain with a lot more chest hair


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,407 ✭✭✭lkionm


    Super-Rush wrote: »
    Their reasons are simple.

    Loads of good lookin women behind the bar = more men in the place.

    Men will drink a lot more than women = moar money.

    That is the reason we know. Companies just cant be going around saying that though.


    If I cant say to a girl her push up bra makes her tits look fantastic but can tell a guy his beard is looking fantastic, there is something wrong with the world.


    I would be happy if they said we are hiring and then only hired girls. No one would be any wiser and the men of Boards will be able to sleep soundly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    lkionm wrote: »
    So I saw on my Fb that a bar from my area is advertising for female only bar staff and told guys to not apply.
    Misleading opening sentence - gives the impression that they look for female staff exclusively, whereas they're looking for one female staff member and there are existing male staff members.
    It is gender discrimination but with the customer in mind (perhaps moreso the male customer).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭HondaSami


    lkionm wrote: »
    So I saw on my Fb that a bar from my area is advertising for female only bar staff and told guys to not apply.




    Surely if I am more qualified at pouring a pint of warm bavaria I should be hired over a girl.

    So, Sexist or not?
    We are looking for a female bartender to join our team have you got the skills if so send us on your CV sorry guys all the guy positions are filled


    They have hired the guys and are now hiring women, how's that sexist?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    Madam_X wrote: »
    Misleading opening sentence - gives the impression that they look for female staff exclusively, whereas they're looking for one female staff member and there is existing male staff.
    It is gender discrimination but with the customer in mind.

    I didn't get that impression but did read the part about male positions being filled with some scepticism.

    I think getting upset about this sort of thing is taking equality too far. People aren't equal, some times a young person is more suitable than an old person, sometimes an Irish person is more suitable than an African and sometimes a girl is more suitable than a boy.

    Try to treat people as equals where possible but not to the point of ignoring the truth.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 797 ✭✭✭Dwork


    TheUsual wrote: »
    You're right, hire another 50% Lithuanians.
    I did. They have crap bewbs. Not sure if the female Litau are any better, but the male ones are flat as pancakes.:( On the upside, they can lift heavy stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    HondaSami wrote: »
    They have hired the guys and are not hiring women
    Maybe read the post again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    Madam_X wrote: »
    Maybe read the post again.
    I assume not = now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    Super-Rush wrote: »
    Their reasons are simple.

    Loads of good lookin women behind the bar = more men in the place.

    Men will drink a lot more than women = moar money.

    And drunk men throwing monies at hawt female bartenders while guy bartenders slam booze over the counter = moar tips for everybody :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,263 ✭✭✭Gongoozler


    I assumed the bar was in Dublin :o it's what living in Dublin does to you


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,407 ✭✭✭lkionm


    HondaSami wrote: »
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    They have hired the guys and are not hiring women, how's that sexist?


    Is the gender quota for a bar not sexist if I am more qualified than Mary down the road who has no qualifications but gets the job because she is a girl.

    The way they phrased it as guy/girl positions sounds like they have designated jobs for girls and guys based purely on sex.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭HondaSami


    Madam_X wrote: »
    Maybe read the post again.

    typo
    humbert wrote: »
    I assume not = now.

    Thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,407 ✭✭✭lkionm


    Gongoozler wrote: »
    I assumed the bar was in Dublin :o it's what living in Dublin does to you

    Limerick city. They have rap nights. I do not go there, just like them on fb for the morbid curiousity of what video link they will put up for one of their nights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭Bipolar Joe


    Sorry, lads, no Africans, we already have some of those.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    Don't know about the rest of you, but I'm happy certain places have mainly female staff. Strip clubs are a great example.

    I don't want AdmiraloftheFleet on stage when I walk in. Sure he is a nice guy and can shake his money maker, but its not what I want when I go there for perv with the guys.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭TheUsual


    Right OP, change the thread title to "Sexy hiring of staff".

    Then we get all the ladies do a bar dance-off competition like that ****ty Coyote film, or maybe a Flashdance type elimination.
    I'd pay to see that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    they obviously have quotas for men and women, just like they want to do in government, whats the big deal?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭Steve O


    they obviously have quotas for men and women, just like they want to do in government, whats the big deal?


    Yes, I am completely useless at bar work but I'll get hired because of my gender and not my ability to do my job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    they obviously have quotas for men and women, just like they want to do in government, whats the big deal?

    Don't forget about the race quotas too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    Doubt the girl who gets hired is gonna be useless at bar-work.


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