Info on 1 ltr cars

toof

Anybody have any experiences of owning a 1ltr car. Something like a seat ibiza, VW polo, Toyota yaris. I am looking into 1ltr cars with a maxium price of €2000.

JohnBoy26

A Yaris is the only 1 liter car id recommend. The rest are no where near as good as them.

toastedpickles

Stay away from any opel corsa, that's my advice

toof

Thats all I have ever heard about corsa's people saying stay away from them.

Wheelnut

See if you can find a Daihatsu Sirion. Probably the least known and most under-rated car in the market. Many Toyota components including the engine and gearbox but a far more practical body with easy access, tall shape and storage cubby-holes everywhere. Badged as a "Toyota" in some countries.

JohnBoy26

Wheelnut wrote: »

See if you can find a Daihatsu Sirion. Probably the least known and most under-rated car in the market. Many Toyota components including the engine and gearbox but a far more practical body with easy access, tall shape and storage cubby-holes everywhere. Badged as a "Toyota" in some countries.

Those Sirions are great cars, however for the op's 2k budget, they'll struggle find one, even a bad one.

dgt

toof wrote: »

Thats all I have ever heard about corsa's people saying stay away from them.

Because they're a nasty hateful car

Mick ah

How long are you looking to keep the car OP?

I have an 00 Yaris and it's a great car. I doubt I'd ever sell it. Highly recommend them if you do follow through and get a 1lt. Only complaint: it's slower than a wet week.

However, they don't come cheap. 1lt means €200 to tax for the year, so they're in high demand. The Irish obsession with tax. You'd be talking 1.8k+ for a decent one (no point in buying shíte as you'll only spend more in the long run).

So OP if you're going to keep it for a while, definitely get one. It'll work out well for you in the long run,

If you're only going to drive it for a year or two, get a corolla (for example) for a grand. It'll save you money in the long run.

fletch

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Those Sirions are great cars, however for the op's 2k budget, they'll struggle find one, even a bad one.

+1. My OH's sister has one with >200,000 kms on the clock and it runs fine. Its well equipped and is very spacious inside.

toof

Mick ah wrote: »

How long are you looking to keep the car OP?

I have an 00 Yaris and it's a great car. I doubt I'd ever sell it. Highly recommend them if you do follow through and get a 1lt. Only complaint: it's slower than a wet week.

However, they don't come cheap. 1lt means €200 to tax for the year, so they're in high demand. The Irish obsession with tax. You'd be talking 1.8k+ for a decent one (no point in buying shíte as you'll only spend more in the long run).

So OP if you're going to keep it for a while, definitely get one. It'll work out well for you in the long run,

If you're only going to drive it for a year or two, get a corolla (for example) for a grand. It'll save you money in the long run.

I am looking to keep the car for as long as possible. I do like the idea of the the yaris and had been looking at them for a while previous. I don't really mind about how slow they are. About how many mpg do they get?

JohnBoy26

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

A Yaris is the only 1 liter car id recommend. The rest are no where near as good as them.

I'll second that !

You probably won't find one with power steering at that price though. You might be lucky !

But the Yaris is the one to get.

toof

OSI wrote: »

Hated my 1l Micra with a passion. Slower than a bus, less economical on a motorway run than my 2.0 T Golf GTI, and way too light to feel safe or comfortable.

I don't mind it been slow or small. Fuel consumption is my main priority and just the overall runnong costs. I wouldn't be driving on a motorway much maybe a few times a year. I have also been looking into diesel cars but don't really know much about the verses petrol cars.

toof

toof wrote: »

I am looking to keep the car for as long as possible. I do like the idea of the the yaris and had been looking at them for a while previous. I don't really mind about how slow they are. About how many mpg do they get?

I can easily get 55 mpg in my Auntie's 00 Yaris, but on the motorway with the lack of a 6th gear you will struggle to get over 40 and it will slow down on motorway hills in 5th. It's noisy as hell on the motorway too. all because they weren't arsed installing a 6th gear.

But if you mainly stick to national routes 50-60 mph it's decently economical, just don't stick on cheap rubbish tyres and try get ones with a B energy rating if you can.

It's a very reliable car though.

Idbatterim

Op there is the.option of keeping yours and spending it on fuel instead of a car, you still haven't told us what you are currently driving... If they are that bad on motorway noise and efficiency wise, just do 100...

toof

Idbatterim wrote: »

Op there is the.option of keeping yours and spending it on fuel instead of a car, you still haven't told us what you are currently driving... If they are that bad on motorway noise and efficiency wise, just do 100...

I currently don't have a car. I sold 6 months ago because I had no need for a car for the last 6 months. But comming into the summer I will need a car again but this time I will be holding onto it long term.

ironclaw

Would recommend the Yaris hands down. Ihave the older 1L and the newer 1.4 Diesel. The 1999 to 2005 model does about 36 to 44MPG. On the lower end on motorways, they really don't like anything over 100km/h. The 2008 1.4 Diesel does anywhere between 42 and 50 MPG, even on a bad day. Will also happily sit at 120km/h.

My vote is the Yaris but unfortunately you'll pay for it.

bazz26

Have a look at the Hyundai Getz too, it's 1.1 litre but they are very reliable. Not quite as good as a Yaris but they are still a very good car and you will get a 2004/2005 example on your budget.


http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4127908

megafan

Toof.... If looking for cheap & fairly reliable transport being main criteria dont dismiss the old Micra looks may not be to all's taste but cheap as chips to buy & loads of second hand ones around for spares etc... just make sure little or no rust on body!!

Ronnie Beck

I've a '00 one litre polo. Got it about two weeks ago. It's pretty nippy around town. Handling and brakes are decent and the engine seems very solid. Doesn't show it's age. Interior build quality is a bit rubbish though. Boot doesn't open, elec. mirror switch is broken, gear linkage feel a bit worn, rear mirror demister needs soldering... Otherwise doesn't seem to bad. I prefer it to the micra's I test drove. I would have liked a yaris but I would have paid double for one in the same condition,year and mileage as the polo.

barura

I drive a 97 Polo, and have owned 3 others. All with the 999cc engine. Grand yokes to drive and pretty cheap to pick up. Seen a few with 200k miles on them as well. Would highly recommend one.

Mick ah

toof wrote: »

I am looking to keep the car for as long as possible. I do like the idea of the the yaris and had been looking at them for a while previous. I don't really mind about how slow they are. About how many mpg do they get?

If that's the case then go for the Yaris. I consistently get less than or equal to 6.5 litres per 100 km on short runs into town (I live 20 minutes from town). Which to me is brilliant. The last car I drove was a very, very thirsty 1.3.

On the M50 (if I'm not in a hurry) I'll just do 80km/h (in the left lane, before I'm shot) I can really get the lt/100 down then.

I know a very good mechanic and he's nothing but praise for them. I couldn't recommend them more. Splash out on a decent one. Drive it like a granny, service it on time and it'll last you ages. Well worth going over budget (a little)

renofan

All I can add is that I have a K11 Micra 1.0 for the last 13 years and you couldn't kill them! Get the best car you can afford and look after it.

ironclaw

Mick ah wrote: »

On the M50 (if I'm not in a hurry) I'll just do 80km/h (in the left lane, before I'm shot) I can really get the lt/100 down then.

Would very much agree with this. The 1L Yaris ain't much good over 100km/h.

I still do 120km/h on the nose when I have the need, road and traffic to do so. I value getting somewhere in a decent time as opposed to fuel economy. Just the choice I make But it is a marked increase in consumption.

JohnBoy26

renofan wrote: »

All I can add is that I have a K11 Micra 1.0 for the last 13 years and you couldn't kill them! Get the best car you can afford and look after it.

Rust kills them though

johndaman66

Deleted User wrote: »

I can easily get 55 mpg in my Auntie's 00 Yaris, but on the motorway with the lack of a 6th gear you will struggle to get over 40 and it will slow down on motorway hills in 5th. It's noisy as hell on the motorway too. all because they weren't arsed installing a 6th gear.

In fairness I think you'd struggle to find any other road car with a naturally aspirated engine, even up to 1.4 litre with a six speed box prior to or even after 2005.

The likes of the 1.0 litre yaris or its counerparts aren't designed for long motorway treks. Your mpg figure will certainly take a sharp nosedive if you do a lot of motorway driving at around 70 mph

barura

Why does everyone think MPG takes a nose dive doing motorway speeds? My car does a handy 40mpg+ at 120km/h and its 999cc.

Also, Puntos came with 6 speed boxes in there 1.2litre engine in the sporting models, which are pretty common.

wesf

get a yaris, simple!

Mick ah

barura wrote: »

Why does everyone think MPG takes a nose dive doing motorway speeds? My car does a handy 40mpg+ at 120km/h and its 999cc.

"Fifty is thrifty"

It's a true statement. Quite simply due to factors outside of the engine's control (drag from the air), going much faster than 50 (mph) will use more fuel. Sad fact unfortunately.

It's why they brought in the 55 mph speed limit in the states. They wanted to save fuel because of the oil crisis. It wasn't effective (it wasn't enforced), and sure who cares, "gas" was still ridiculously cheap.

Back on topic.

There plenty of options for a 1lt. I've already thrown my lot in with the Yaris because I've experienced them to be very good cars. But OP, when it comes down to it, do your sums, then throw in things like look of the car.

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JohnBoy26

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The micras are reliable but rust buckets at this stage and corsas are just scrap reliability wise.

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Mr Benevolent

toastedpickles wrote: »

Stay away from any opel corsa, that's my advice

I've had two with no problems whatsoever. They're not as good as the Yaris but I wouldn't discount them. The 1.2 Corsa (post 2000) is a step up in terms of smoothness and power delivery. Handy options too, mine has AC, electric everything and is auto. The older 1L '99 I had was unrefined but very reliable.

JohnBoy26

Confab wrote: »

I've had two with no problems whatsoever. They're not as good as the Yaris but I wouldn't discount them. The 1.2 Corsa (post 2000) is a step up in terms of smoothness and power delivery. Handy options too, mine has AC, electric everything and is auto. The older 1L '99 I had was unrefined but very reliable.

Pre and post 2000 corsa's are scrap, I wouldn't recommend them to anyone ever!

Mr Benevolent

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Pre and post 2000 corsa's are scrap, I wouldn't recommend them to anyone ever!

Meh. They're better than the same year Polo anyway.

JohnBoy26

Confab wrote: »

Meh. They're better than the same year Polo anyway.

They certinatly are not!!, and I wouldn't call the polo a great car either.

Mycroft H

Confab wrote: »

Meh. They're better than the same year Polo anyway.

I could put a lawnmower engine connected to bicycle wheels on my garden shed and it would be a better car than a corsa. Faster too.

Ronnie Beck

Confab wrote: »

Meh. They're better than the same year Polo anyway.

Have you ever driven a corsa? It's like a polo towing a corsa.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

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The day I got over taken by a Starlet while going flat out on the M6 was the day I decided to sell mine. I loved that car but it was only for city driving, long distances were pure and utter torture.

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Ronnie Beck

deccurley wrote: »

The day I got over taken by a Starlet while going flat out on the M6 was the day I decided to sell mine. I loved that car but it was only for city driving, long distances were pure and utter torture.

Sure it's 1.3 versus 1.0. Hardly fair. A 1 litre or less drag race would settle this...

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Merch

Deleted User wrote: »

I can easily get 55 mpg in my Auntie's 00 Yaris, but on the motorway with the lack of a 6th gear you will struggle to get over 40 and it will slow down on motorway hills in 5th. It's noisy as hell on the motorway too. all because they weren't arsed installing a 6th gear.

Most cars dont have 6 gears

megafan wrote: »

Toof.... If looking for cheap & fairly reliable transport being main criteria dont dismiss the old Micra looks may not be to all's taste but cheap as chips to buy & loads of second hand ones around for spares etc... just make sure little or no rust on body!!

+1 for the Micra 997cc

barura wrote: »

Why does everyone think MPG takes a nose dive doing motorway speeds? My car does a handy 40mpg+ at 120km/h and its 999cc.

Also, Puntos came with 6 speed boxes in there 1.2litre engine in the sporting models, which are pretty common.

poke means petrol, you dont get something for nothing, personally I wouldnt rule out a FIAT. At 120kph/60mph, 40mpg is a good if expected mileage,

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

The micras are reliable but rust buckets at this stage and corsas are just scrap reliability wise.

I wouldnt agree with the rustbucket, Ive seen plenty of clean examples and hardly any bad ones, unless they are already off the road.

Ive only driven a corsa about 07/08 model as a replacement car, it was nice on the road, looking at pictures, the boot space looks ok, but longterm I couldnt say, nor what the older ones are like.

The only thing about the Yaris, as far as I recal, the boot is woefully small, with the crappy sliding seat? less than the K11 and not as deep as the K12 Micra, no doubt a reliable car, but look at the tax cost, for a margin extra, you might have a more useful bigger car like the suggested corolla with a bigger boot and be able to keep it for longer and at a cheaper initial price.

Id swap now for something with more doors and a bigger boot, storage pockets around the place would be a bonus!

JohnBoy26

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Maybe you found it faster and better to drive but the Polo is a better car than the Corsa.

JohnBoy26

Merch wrote: »

Most cars dont have 6 gears



+1 for the Micra 997cc



poke means petrol, you dont get something for nothing, personally I wouldnt rule out a FIAT. At 120kph/60mph, 40mpg is a good if expected mileage,



I wouldnt agree with the rustbucket, Ive seen plenty of clean examples and hardly any bad ones, unless they are already off the road.

Ive only driven a corsa about 07/08 model as a replacement car, it was nice on the road, looking at pictures, the boot space looks ok, but longterm I couldnt say, nor what the older ones are like.

The only thing about the Yaris, as far as I recal, the boot is woefully small, with the crappy sliding seat? less than the K11 and not as deep as the K12 Micra, no doubt a reliable car, but look at the tax cost, for a margin extra, you might have a more useful bigger car like the suggested corolla with a bigger boot and be able to keep it for longer and at a cheaper initial price.

Id swap now for something with more doors and a bigger boot, storage pockets around the place would be a bonus!

Yes they are rustbuckets, they all look great on the face of it but underneath they rust badly and on the sills.

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Mister Jingles

Like above I haven't seen many examples of rusty K11 Micra's either (I do remember that the K10 had bad rust years later). The only rust I recall on my one is on the crossmember, other wise there's none, and that's after I had it up on a ramp. If there's any car out there with bad rust problems its the Fiesta.

The micra's are nippy enough with one or two people inside but you notice the difference with any more. I drove the 1.4 Ford 80bhp, or as some around here say the slowest engine going (:rolleyes:) for a while and do miss that little bit more power. It's was that much in difference but still noticeable.

Haven't tested the mpg on mine yet but from throwing 15/20 quid into the tank it seems to be doing okay.

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