Leinster A v Munster A, Tuesday 12th March, UL

irishbucsfan

MUNSTER 'A': J Murphy; L O'Dea, D Barnes, I Dineen, R O'Mahony; JJ Hanrahan, C Sheridan; J Cronin, S Henry, J Ryan; D Foley, P O'Connell; N Ronan, S Dougall, CJ Stander

REPLACEMENTS: M Horan, D Casey, N Scannell, K Griffin, B Hayes, Dave O'Callaghan, B Slater, S Deasy, C Bohane, C Hircock, S Scanlon, J Holland

LEINSTER ‘A’:

15: Noel Reid
14: Andrew Boyle
13: Jordan Coghlan
12: Colm O’Shea
11: Sam Coghlan-Murray
10: Cathal Marsh
9: John Cooney

1: Jack O’Connell
2: Aaron Dundon CAPTAIN
3: Martin Moore
4: Mark Flanagan
5: Quinn Roux
6: Ben Marshall
7: Conor Gilsenan
8: Leo Auva’a

REPLACEMENTS:

16: James Tracey
17: Jack McGrath
18: Tadhg Furlong
19: Tadhg Beirne
20: Dan Leavy
21: Adam Griggs
22: Fionn Carr
23: Andrew Conway
24: David Doyle

I figure there'll be some discussion of this game from both sides so it deserves its own thread.

Leinster interest is the return of Roux, the selection of Marsh with Reid at 15, the likes of SCM and Boyle selected ahead of the likes of Conway and Carr and the continuation of Tracy at hooker. Also interesting to see O'Connell in there ahead of McGrath?

Good to see priority given to Leinster's A guys ahead of their B&I Quarter Final.

Munster interest is Hanrahan at 10, POC in the side, Stander at 8?

EDIT: 12th of March, sorry!

trouttrout

WHERE ADAM BYRNE

CIARAN_BOYLE

irishbucsfan wrote: »

I figure there'll be some discussion of this game from both sides so it deserves its own thread.

Leinster interest is the return of Roux, the selection of Marsh with Reid at 15, the likes of SCM and Boyle selected ahead of the likes of Conway and Carr and the continuation of Tracy at hooker. Also interesting to see O'Connell in there ahead of McGrath?

Good to see priority given to Leinster's A guys ahead of their B&I Quarter Final.

Munster interest is Hanrahan at 10, POC in the side, Stander at 8?

Reid is final year in the academy I think, Marsh being ahead of him at 10 could be a sign that Reid is going to be let go.

trouttrout wrote: »

WHERE ADAM BYRNE

Injured. If he was fit he would be recovering from a game with France prepping for a game this week against with Ireland U20 so he wouldn't be playing anyway

irishbucsfan

trouttrout wrote: »

WHERE ADAM BYRNE

I'd doubt his ankle has healed yet.

Deano7788

Has Coghlan ever played 13 before?

irishbucsfan

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Reid is final year in the academy I think, Marsh being ahead of him at 10 could be a sign that Reid is going to be let go.

Hmm maybe. Or maybe they felt he needed match time because Reid had been more involved for Leinster.

I think most likely is that Marsh is being given a chance to claim the place for the quarter final. If he does that then I don't think Reid will be kept.

A2LUE42

This being played in the bowl or on the 3G ?

Deano7788

A2LUE42 wrote: »

This being played in the bowl or on the 3G ?

Bowl

Zzippy

Jeez, that's a strong looking Munster side for an A game!
Great to see POC back, let's hope for an extended injury-free run for him.

.ak

Deano7788 wrote: »

Has Coghlan ever played 13 before?

Nope. Strange actually, as O'Shea has before and Coughlan is pushing for his conversion to 12. I think he might get caught out at sea at 13.

molloyjh

.ak wrote: »

Nope. Strange actually, as O'Shea has before and Coughlan is pushing for his conversion to 12. I think he might get caught out at sea at 13.

Yeah that seemed strange to me as well. But that they are still playing him in the centre at all means he's obviously making progress there.

jamiedav2011

Interesting that Coghlan gets in at 13. Never seen him playing there before.

On paper, Munster side is stronger, perhaps similar to the game earlier in the year. Very young Leinster side.

Good to see Roux back too.

.ak

Good to see Griggs getting another game, what a hero. Presume Boss is off the Irish squad then.

totallegend

Just out of interest, what's the weather like in Limerick and is there any chance this might not go ahead? I'm sure the last thing either set of fans want is their respective #5's getting injured on a frozen pitch...

Munster definitely have the edge in terms of experience and that Leinster backline has a thrown-together look about it, so I'd be tipping the home side here.

trouttrout

totallegend wrote: »

Just out of interest, what's the weather like in Limerick and is there any chance this might not go ahead? I'm sure the last thing either set of fans want is their respective #5's getting injured on a frozen pitch...

Munster definitely have the edge in terms of experience and that Leinster backline has a thrown-together look about it, so I'd be tipping the home side here.

Snowing at the moment but not lodging and the sun is out. Would expect it to go ahead

Tox56

Might as well get the excuses in early.. Leinster pack is good but that backline is a bit all over the place, and Munster's backrow/backline wouldn't look out of place in a Rabo game. Coghlan at 13 and Reid at 15 is a disaster waiting to happen, and I don't think Marsh is the strongest defender either. Munster's backline much better/more experienced, should expect a big advantage there.

Good to see some players (on both teams) coming back from injury, hopefully Leavy gets on at some point. Anyone going to the game report back!

molloyjh

Ah yeah you'd have to fancy Munster based on those line-ups. Having Horan involved though seems a bit mad. Do Munster not have another loosie they could be developing?

Rightwing

trouttrout wrote: »

Snowing at the moment but not lodging and the sun is out. Would expect it to go ahead

Snowing , and sun out

It's a nice dry day, bitterly cold breeze.

opinionatedfan

on paper munster should win handily

thomond2006

Hopefully they'll be a good crowd at this.

lurtz

molloyjh wrote: »

Ah yeah you'd have to fancy Munster based on those line-ups. Having Horan involved though seems a bit mad. Do Munster not have another loosie they could be developing?

Brian Scott. Niall Horan is still recovering from a back injury

opinionatedfan

lurtz wrote: »

Brian Scott. Niall Horan is still recovering from a back injury

Scott was absolutely terrible in his first half for the under 20s versus wales.

The excuse given was that he is a TH playing out of position and that he had gotten injured.

Niall Horan is highly thought of though, missed the 6N with injury.

CIARAN_BOYLE

molloyjh wrote: »

Ah yeah you'd have to fancy Munster based on those line-ups. Having Horan involved though seems a bit mad. Do Munster not have another loosie they could be developing?

They do, however they are involved in the Ireland U20 set up afaik

shuffol

Munster should walk this on paper. From a leinster point of view I'd be hoping for a good performance from SCM, he might be needed next season, having the upper hand in the scrums and Gilsenan to acquit himself well against a strong Munster back row.

thomond2006

If you take an average of all the players in the Munster starting XV, the team is about equal to a competent Rabo lineup.

ssaye

thomond2006 wrote: »

If you take an average of all the players in the Munster starting XV, the team is about equal to a competent Rabo lineup.

Could be a 15-20 point win for Munster based on those sides and bench.

No injuries please and Roux and POC to come through ok.

Hype710

Munster starting side is over 2 years older per player on average than their Leinster counterparts.

Quint2010

Great to see Leavy on the bench after injury. Still only 18. Great talent.

opinionatedfan

Leinster Team

1. JOC (looks like he has assumed McGrath's role as the first string A team prop)
2. Dundon(brings a lot of experience and leadership)
3. Moore(good to see him get another run, needs more experience)
4. Flanagan(continued progress returning from injury)
5. Roux(excited to see him back)
6. Marshall(has really impressed as of late, good option to have at 6)
7. Gilsenan(stuck below a lot of depth but has impressed when given a chance)
8. Leo(no other real option, would be surprised if he was still with Leinster next season, effective at this level)
9. Cooney(with Reddan out, time for him to really show he is ready)
10. Marsh(spotlight shifting to him, interested to see how he goes)
11. SCM(great form for UCD, can he translate?)
12. O'Shea(just returning from injury)
13. Coghlan(interesting selection, biggest question mark)
14. Boyle(good form for UCD, can he translate?)
15. Reid(jury is in on him as a 10, is he a 15?)
16. Tracy(interested to see how his conversion from LH prop is going)
17. McGrath(obvious cover and experience of the bench)
18. Furlong(excited to see him get any time)
19. Beirne(pretty sure he has spent most the year trying to bulk up)
20. Leavy(recently returned from injury, exciting talent)
21. Griggs(don't know much about him, older NZ guy)
22. Carr(experience on the bench)
23. Conway(experience on the bench)
24. Doyle(recently returned from injury)

thebaz

opinionatedfan wrote: »

15. Reid(jury is in on him as a 10, is he a 15?)

the problem for reid is he doesnt really have a position , certainly not a quality 10 imo

.ak

He also plays 12 at senior level.

thomond2006

Honestly the only thing I care about is POC comes through this. Everything else is secondary tbh.

Donnacha Ryan seems to have struggled with shoulder problems in the last while, if he's missing for Quins then we need POC back asap.

the perfect ten

If anyone out there is going to be at the match would there be any chance of some score updates? It would be much appreciated.

jamiedav2011

the perfect ten wrote: »

If anyone out there is going to be at the match would there be any chance of some score updates? It would be much appreciated.

Should be loads floating around Twitter I'd say.

molloyjh

Looks like O'Shea is out. Coughlan to 12, Reid to 13, Conway to 15 and D Fanning (?) on the bench. Seems strange that Reid is moving to 13 and not 12. A mistake by the Twitter machine maybe?

totallegend

molloyjh wrote: »

Looks like O'Shea is out. Coughlan to 12, Reid to 13, Conway to 15 and D Fanning (?) on the bench. Seems strange that Reid is moving to 13 and not 12. A mistake by the Twitter machine maybe?

Coughlan had played at 12 earlier in the season, rather than 13, so maybe they're moving him back to his more natural position?

Match updates on Leinster twitter; https://twitter.com/leinsterrugby, presumably on Munster feed as well.

irishbucsfan

Everything seems all over the place. Not a good omen.

ormond lad

for those not on twitter 5 mins gone Munster 3 Leinster 0 JJ penalty

.ak

totallegend wrote: »

Coughlan had played at 12 earlier in the season, rather than 13, so maybe they're moving him back to his more natural position?

Match updates on Leinster twitter; https://twitter.com/leinsterrugby, presumably on Munster feed as well.

I'd say they'll move around. TBH I'm surprised EOM didn't feature, he needs all the game time he can get, unless he's in the Irish setup again.

ormond lad

Conway try after 10 mins with a great solo break Muns A 3 Leins A 5

.ak

ormond lad wrote: »

Conway try after 10 mins with a great solo break Muns A 3 Leins A 5

Nice.

Reid taking the kicks. 3-7 to Leinster.

Really enjoy @leinsterrugby's twitter updates for games, get a great feel of the game usually.

ssaye

leinsterrugby: 14 - Reid's effort sails inches wide of the upright. Score is still 3-7.
57 seconds ago from web
leinsterrugby: 13 - Big carry from Roux through the Munster midfield. Earns a penalty for the visitors. Reid with the kick...

Tox56

Can we have Conway back?

ormond lad

Penalty Munster scored by JJ after Leinster off their feet. Munster 6 Leinster 7 22mins gone

CIARAN_BOYLE

.ak wrote: »

I'd say they'll move around. TBH I'm surprised EOM didn't feature, he needs all the game time he can get, unless he's in the Irish setup again.

eom is in the Irish set up. With bod and cave going through concussion procedure they need an extra 13 for opposed training

justsomebloke

Tox56 wrote: »

Can we have Conway back?

pah, he is only trying to impress his new employers the traitor :pac:

.ak

Who's P O'Driscoll and D Fanning?

ssaye

leinsterrugby: 23 - Penalty to Leinster inside their half and Marsh finds a good touch as the sun comes out in front of a healthy crowd in the UL Bowl

opinionatedfan

.ak wrote: »

Who's P O'Driscoll and D Fanning?

Darragh Fanning?

ormond lad

.ak wrote: »

Who's P O'Driscoll and D Fanning?

Darragh Fanning plays AIL with St Marys. No idea about P O Driscoll

the perfect ten

That would be Patrick O'Driscoll, the Lansdowne scrum-half - he has started in most of their matches this season as Cooney has been away so much. A good player with a quick pass and a very reliable box-kicking game. It's good to see someone like him on the subs bench.