Nosy neighbour

dangerus06

i live in an estate where one guy go around reporting people who has no tax
on there cars to the police 3 cars have been taken away ,
he also picks up rubbish in bags which is good on him
he reported there was a van with 2 men in it driving around estate turned out to be milkman .
has sent out leaflets to houses and app to clean up the fronts ,he gone into my friends rented house and started purning her flowers
he doest work himself so is proud of where he lives .
but why is he reporting neighbours cars what really has it got to do with him
he asked another eildery man to pick up cigs buts from his own front garden he scares a lot of people honest decent people who mind there own buisness ,why do people does stuff like this

cuppa

Does he make lots of noise when nosey

SQ2

dangerus06 wrote: »

i live in an estate where one guy go around reporting people who has no tax
on there cars to the police 3 cars have been taken away ,
he also picks up rubbish in bags which is good on him
he reported there was a van with 2 men in it driving around estate turned out to be milkman .
has sent out leaflets to houses and app to clean up the fronts ,he gone into my friends rented house and started purning her flowers
he doest work himself so is proud of where he lives .
but why is he reporting neighbours cars what really has it got to do with him
he asked another eildery man to pick up cigs buts from his own front garden he scares a lot of people honest decent people who mind there own buisness ,why do people does stuff like this

Cars aren't just taken away for being a few days out with their tax, I'm guessing that the cars were more or less dumped in your estate?
There are busybodys everywhere, I suppose they're put here to keep the rest of us on our toes!

Moonbeam

have you got a residents association?

Karlitto

Quite frankly, if I had a bush/tree in my front garden, he shouldn't and has no business coming onto your property to alter your floral arrangment, be it an intended or unintended arrangment. Nor does he have any right whatsoever to tell someone to pick up their cigarette buts from their own property.

The cartax thing, if it is on the road with no tax disc, he should report it, however, if it is in a garden, it is simply none of his business.

Too many busybodies around for my liking..

SQ2

It does appear that he asked, and not told someone to pick them up?
If they were beer cans instead of fag butts would it be different?
Is it possible that man is part of tidy towns or tidy estates committee, or part of the residents association himself?

Karlitto

SQ2 wrote: »

It does appear that he asked, and not told someone to pick them up?
If they were beer cans instead of fag butts would it be different?
Is it possible that man is part of tidy towns or tidy estates committee, or part of the residents association himself?

I think it is quite cheeky to even ask/tell someone what to do on their own property.
No, beercans, fag ends, dog ****, whatever, it is still their property, no one has the right to tell them to clean it up.

Joe Public

Karlitto wrote: »

I think it is quite cheeky to even ask/tell someone what to do on their own property.
No, beercans, fag ends, dog ****, whatever, it is still their property, no one has the right to tell them to clean it up.

There are limits to neighbours behaving badly, if people want to be dirty and have no regard for their neighbours then they should move to a site away from other houses. I have witnessed dirty neighbours where they pile up refuse in their front and back gardens and the situation has attracted in rats and the smell can be nauseating. The same people have ignored all requests to clean up, even ignored requests from the authorities. I've also witnessed a neighbour who never tidies up their garden and weeds, shrubs and trees grow over the walls into the neighbours gardens on each side. The dirty neighbour is quite capable of cleaning up but doesn't.
If you live in a community then you shouldn't rock the boat.

Peppa Pig

bmc32 wrote: »

Why dont you call the cops and say theres a pervert bothering the children in the estate.Give his description to the cops and let them sort him.That will stop his snooping.

So you'd like him to falsely accuse this man of being a paedophile :eek:

Joe Public

bmc32 wrote: »

Why dont you call the cops and say theres a pervert bothering the children in the estate.Give his description to the cops and let them sort him.That will stop his snooping.

Yes, the OP does seem childish ok.

The Hill Billy

bmc32 wrote: »

Why dont you call the cops and say theres a pervert bothering the children in the estate.Give his description to the cops and let them sort him.That will stop his snooping.

This kind of advice is trollish & unhelpful. Please do not post if you have nothing constructive to add.

tHB

baaba maal

Karlitto wrote: »

I think it is quite cheeky to even ask/tell someone what to do on their own property.
No, beercans, fag ends, dog ****, whatever, it is still their property, no one has the right to tell them to clean it up.

Actually if litter on your property is visible from a public place then a litter warden or garda is entitled to issue a litter fine of a €150. Not saying this man has the right to tell people to clean up their property, but the owner is (rightly in my opinion) responsible for keeping their property clean.

BuffyBot

Thread moved to a more appropriate forum.

monkeypants

dangerus06 wrote: »

i live in an estate where one guy go around reporting people who has no tax on there cars to the police 3 cars have been taken away

Good.

dangerus06 wrote: »

he also picks up rubbish in bags

Also good.

dangerus06 wrote: »

he reported there was a van with 2 men in it driving around estate turned out to be milkman

No burglar has ever driven around pretending to be a milkman.

dangerus06 wrote: »

has sent out leaflets to houses and app to clean up the fronts

So he's looking for work? Good.

dangerus06 wrote: »

he gone into my friends rented house and started purning her flowers

Maybe the landlord asked him to do that.

dangerus06 wrote: »

he doest work himself so is proud of where he lives

Good.

dangerus06 wrote: »

but why is he reporting neighbours cars what really has it got to do with him

Motor tax is used to pay for stuff like Gardai, hospitals, fire brigade, etc. If people aren't paying it, then someone else has pick up the slack and pay more, or the service gets cuts. People tend to complain about both. Also, if the cars were taken away, then they were abandoned.

dangerus06 wrote: »

he asked another eildery man to pick up cigs buts from his own front garden

Yeah, because litter in one person's garden has never been blown by the wind into someone else's, it stays put.

dangerus06 wrote: »

he scares a lot of people

Really?

dangerus06 wrote: »

honest decent people who mind there own buisness

But who don't pay their tax and litter.

dangerus06 wrote: »

why do people does stuff like this

He sounds like a good neighbour. Maybe the question ought to be why aren't there more like him?

My 2c.

stoneill

Just sounds like he's a bloke who is proud of his area and likes to keep it clean.
I know it would annoy me if neighbours flicked fag butts around their garden, didn't keep it tidy, let stuff grow wild and
drove about in untaxed cars.

djimi

If he comes into your garden and starts going at your flowers then report him to the Gardai for vandalism.

If he comes onto your property to check your car tax then report him for tresspassing (although I assume the cars were not parked in driveways as vehicles which are parked on private property are not required to have valid motor tax unless they are being used on a public road).

If he is really going over the top then get a few neighbours together and go sit down and talk to him; explain that what he is doing is not acceptable and that he is causing a nuisance in the neighbourhood. He may well ignore you or try to put up a fight, but surely the first thing to do is to actually communicate with the guy.

stateofflux

stoneill wrote: »

Just sounds like he's a bloke who is proud of his area and likes to keep it clean.
I know it would annoy me if neighbours flicked fag butts around their garden, didn't keep it tidy, let stuff grow wild and
drove about in untaxed cars.

it would only bother me if it was right next door as it would devalue the market value of my own house if next door was a bomb site.

The_Conductor

Joe Public wrote: »

Yes, the OP does seem childish ok.

This is not helpful.
If you have something positive to add- please do so- but I'd seriously advise reading our forum charter, if you intend to continue posting in here.

The_Conductor

bmc32 wrote: »

Get lost fool.I'm entitled to my opinion.Its called democracy.Ever hear of it.:P

You may live in a so called Democracy. Boards.ie is not a democracy- its a privately owned website that allows public access to its forums, providing the rules (charters) governing such forums are adhered to.

Any more tomfoolery from you and I will have to take further action. I've already deleted one of your posts here for trolling.

Regards,

SMcCarrick

The_Conductor

bmc32 wrote: »

Hey goat boy,

I am not a troll.How dare you use that term for me.You have some cheek.A person had a problem with a PEST in his estate.I offered a surefire solution to his problem.Sometimes you have to be hard to solve problems.Its a tough world out there.

You're calling someone Goat boy and think you're not trolling?
Cop-on if you want to continue posting in here- and READ AND OBEY THE FORUM CHARTER........

Seems to be a good kind of neighbour to have. Someone who cares about your area and wont put up with those breaking the law. Kudos to him.

djimi

Deleted User wrote: »

Seems to be a good kind of neighbour to have. Someone who cares about your area and wont put up with those breaking the law. Kudos to him.

Theres a fine line between good neighbour and busybody, and the latter is quite simply a pest to have around the neighbourhood.

D3PO

djimi wrote: »

Theres a fine line between good neighbour and busybody, and the latter is quite simply a pest to have around the neighbourhood.

true he sounds like a pest most of the things hes doing are outrageous but you know what im delighted hes reporting people for no car tax.

Ive no sympathy with people complaining they have been shopped by a nosy neightbour for having no tax. If somebody is going to steal from the state (thats essentially what they are doing) good on him for ratting them out.

Everything else mind you is overkill

djimi

In fairness you have absolutely no idea why someone hasnt paid for car tax; I know if it was me and it was a choice between putting food on my kids table or paying motor tax then there would only be one winner. Its absolutely none of his, yours or anyone elses business why someone hasnt paid their car tax, and the guy has an absolute nerve to go around calling the Gardai on his neighbours for it.

As for stealing from the government, well if someone is intent on paying their motor tax then they will pay exactly the same amount whether its on time or in arrears, so its makes absolutely no difference in the long run. If they are not intent on paying then its a different matter, but without knowing the persons circumstances I dont think anyone has a right to judge.

MajorMax

If this estate is next to a north dublin city hotel, then I know this guy (He's a nutter)

D3PO

djimi wrote: »

In fairness you have absolutely no idea why someone hasnt paid for car tax; I know if it was me and it was a choice between putting food on my kids table or paying motor tax then there would only be one winner. Its absolutely none of his, yours or anyone elses business why someone hasnt paid their car tax, and the guy has an absolute nerve to go around calling the Gardai on his neighbours for it.

As for stealing from the government, well if someone is intent on paying their motor tax then they will pay exactly the same amount whether its on time or in arrears, so its makes absolutely no difference in the long run. If they are not intent on paying then its a different matter, but without knowing the persons circumstances I dont think anyone has a right to judge.

Im not saying its his business why they havent paid. It is his business that they havent paid though.

Late payment (that is if they dont scam a letter saying car off the road which many people seem to do) does actually cost money to the exchequer in terms of lost interest.

If you dont want a nosey neighbour ratting you out for not having tax then just pay it.

Like I said the other things are outrageous, but I find it funny somebody can think they have a genuine complaint about the motor tax thing.


Its OT of acccomadation and property though.

djimi

D3PO wrote: »

If you dont want a nosey neighbour ratting you out for not having tax then just pay it.

Yeah Im not sure if youve noticed but a lot of folk out there are finding things very hard financially at the moment. Having to prioritize spending on a limited budget may mean that less vital expenses such as car tax go unpaid for a couple of months while more important bills get paid. Its not right but its a fact of life. Very easy to sit there and criticise if you have the money to pay your car tax on time, but I suspect you would be singing a very different tune if you had to choose between paying your car tax and feeding your family when the renewal letter comes through the door.

This guy may feel like he is performing his civic duty or some such bull****, but in reality he is sticking his nose into peoples affairs where it has no right to be.

Joe Public

Many estates can have abandoned cars parked on the road outside their houses and sometimes not directly outside. We reported a few in our estate and they were traced to people who didn't live locally. It's good to have people looking out for the welfare of the area they live in and to show good example to those who may need gentle reminders.
Next time you see him around say hello and have a chat.

djimi

Reporting abandoned cars is very different to snooping on your neighbours and reporting expired tax.

Sensual Cucumber

Send him round my way, plenty to do here, its manky;)

Joe Public

djimi wrote: »

Reporting abandoned cars is very different to snooping on your neighbours and reporting expired tax.

I guess that abandoned cars is the more likely scenario.

monkeypants

djimi wrote: »

I suspect you would be singing a very different tune if you had to choose between paying your car tax and feeding your family

Happy to pay for petrol, car insurance, NCT and tyres though, yes?

djimi

monkeypants wrote: »

Happy to pay for petrol, car insurance, NCT and tyres though, yes?

Your point being? All of those are essential items, except for maybe NCT, but given a choice between tax and a safety test I think the latter is more important. Although I suspect both would go unpaid if needs be.

monkeypants

djimi wrote: »

Your point being? All of those are essential items, except for maybe NCT, but given a choice between tax and a safety test I think the latter is more important. Although I suspect both would go unpaid if needs be.

My point is that if you can't feed your children, then you have no business running a car at all.

djimi

Oh for the love of god. A car is an essential expense for most people; it is their way of getting to work and actually earning a wage. Unless you would prefer to see people sit at home earning nothing rather then I dont see what you are trying to get at.

Im not saying that it is right that people make a choice between paying car tax or not, but it happens and is a fact of life for a lot of people at the moment.

Karlitto

monkeypants wrote: »

My point is that if you can't feed your children, then you have no business running a car at all.

......

Ok, so, someone gets a job working too far away to walk, or out of the way of public transport should not be using a car so they can earn an income to feed their family? Wake up dude...

My old job (was in 2006) I lived in Baldoyle, Worked in Swords, IF I had a car, it would have been no more than a 20 minute drive to work, but I didn't, I had to get public transport. Have you any idea how long it too to get from Baldoyle to Swords when the 102 bus didn't go to the airport? 2.5 hours, and that is no exajuration.

monkeypants

djimi wrote: »

Oh for the love of god. A car is an essential expense for most people; it is their way of getting to work and actually earning a wage. Unless you would prefer to see people sit at home earning nothing rather then I dont see what you are trying to get at.

Im not saying that it is right that people make a choice between paying car tax or not, but it happens and is a fact of life for a lot of people at the moment.

It's a lazy and easy fact. If you can't feed your children, stop using your car, maybe even get rid of it. Use a bicycle, a bus, a scooter, arrange a lift. Whatever. Put a wee bit of thought and effort into it. Your commute may be longer and things may be slightly less convenient, but won't someone please think of the children?

By the way, not all people who are dodging motor tax are doing so because they can't feed their children. One I know is an IT Manager in Dublin. Of course, he could be bull****ting. Irish people love to share how they're pulling one over on the government.

monkeypants

Karlitto wrote: »

My old job (was in 2006) I lived in Baldoyle, Worked in Swords, IF I had a car, it would have been no more than a 20 minute drive to work, but I didn't, I had to get public transport. Have you any idea how long it too to get from Baldoyle to Swords when the 102 bus didn't go to the airport? 2.5 hours, and that is no exajuration.

Can cycle from Baldoyle to Swords in forty minutes. Maybe less.

djimi

You make it sound so easy. Isnt it great that we all live in a country with such ample public transport and options to get around without the use of a car? Hurrah!

Anyway Im not bothered arguing this any further. My point is that quite a lot of people are having to get by on a limited budget, which would be made a lot more limited without the use of a car to get to and from work. I dont think its a lot to ask to understand why something like car tax might not be high on the list of outgoings when there are more important things to pay for that month, but I guess not everyone has to see it that way. Each to their own.

gjc

Every street has a nosey neighbour or curtain twitcher it's a hazard everywhere... Go about your life quietly keep clear of him don't let it get under your skin . Maybe one day either you or him will be moving. I know my neighbours can hear the grass grow....... They have a direct line to everyone and everything

SQ2

Where's the OP gone? Non car tax compliance? Dumped Cars? Committee member? You can't just light a fire around here and run away!!

dangerus06

hi the one car that was taken belonged to a guy who lost his job and didt use the car it was parked on driveway next to road outside his house ,he now taken pictures of people who let there dog sxxt and not pick it up good on him for that but he either very brave or stupid ,:D

djimi

If the car was parked in a driveway then it was not taken for not having tax.

Joe Public

SQ2 wrote: »

Where's the OP gone? Non car tax compliance? Dumped Cars? Committee member? You can't just light a fire around here and run away!!

Possibly realises how wrong he/she is?

dangerus06 wrote: »

i live in an estate where one guy go around reporting people who has no tax on there cars to the police 3 cars have been taken away ,

The only reasons cars are taken away is if they are abandoned, burnt out, repossession, involved in a crime or such like. If a car is off the road you don't have to tax it and to be 100% sure there is no problem then keep it on private property.

dangerus06

picture house /path/drive car on drive thats the best way to explain where the car was ,its the owner of car who told me this

djimi

Im not sure that Im following what you are describing, but if the drive is part of the property of the house then its private property and any vehicle parked on it is not required to be taxed and would not have been towed for having expired tax.

Only if the car was parked outside the property on a public road/place would it be required to have tax.

dangerus06

djimi wrote: »

Im not sure that Im following what you are describing, but if the drive is part of the property of the house then its private property and any vehicle parked on it is not required to be taxed and would not have been towed for having expired tax.

Only if the car was parked outside the property on a public road/place would it be required to have tax.

hi you have house then public footpath then parking spaces that are belonging to house that help:)

Joe Public

djimi wrote: »

Im not sure that Im following what you are describing, but if the drive is part of the property of the house then its private property and any vehicle parked on it is not required to be taxed and would not have been towed for having expired tax.

Only if the car was parked outside the property on a public road/place would it be required to have tax.

Yes that is correct except it would be very rare for a car to be towed away in an estate for no tax unless it has been abandoned. The Litter Warden would usually initiate a tow away as it would be treated as unwanted rubbish, the tow away bill would be sent to the registered owner. If number plates are missing then the chassis number can be used to track the registered owner.

Electric Sheep

djimi wrote: »

In fairness you have absolutely no idea why someone hasnt paid for car tax; I know if it was me and it was a choice between putting food on my kids table or paying motor tax then there would only be one winner. Its absolutely none of his, yours or anyone elses business why someone hasnt paid their car tax, and the guy has an absolute nerve to go around calling the Gardai on his neighbours for it.

As for stealing from the government, well if someone is intent on paying their motor tax then they will pay exactly the same amount whether its on time or in arrears, so its makes absolutely no difference in the long run. If they are not intent on paying then its a different matter, but without knowing the persons circumstances I dont think anyone has a right to judge.

If your choice is between feeding your kids or paying motor tax you should sell your car.

djimi

Electric Sheep wrote: »

If your choice is between feeding your kids or paying motor tax you should sell your car.

And get to work how?

D3PO

djimi wrote: »

And get to work how?

bike, bus, train, walk, lift from a work collegue, sell the car and buy a cheaper one using the difference to pay for your car tax.

Lots of options. The excuse I needed it for food doesnt fly.