Tyre Fitter Wages

Lookingforward

Hi. can anyone tell me the average wages for a tyre fitter outside of dublin. Just cars vans and 4x4s, Wheel alignment, Bulbs, batteries and wipers? Thank you

Del2005

Knowing this country it'll be minimun, it's not that hard a job to learn and more highly skilled jobs barely make above minimum.

Lookingforward

I was looking for a more detailed answer possibly from someone already in the position. Also not a trainee wage but someone experienced. thank you

Cungi

I worked as a fitter way back in 99.
I was only on £120 a week at the time. Cheap tyres were a nice perk

I just found this thing called Google thats really handy for looking up stuff

Here's a recent position found when googled. It's in Innishannon though.

http://www.worky.com/job/fully-qualified-tyre-fitter/74913


Fully Qualified Tyre Fitter
Company Name Sean O Connell Tyres Ltd
Job Publisher: FAS
Job type Fully Qualified Tyre Fitter
Category Construction
Salary 346.00pw
Ref JOB-660335
About this job

DESCRIPTION
Qualified Tyre Fitter required. Duties to include ; Fit and repair tyres on cars, vans, trucks, agricultural equipment etc. Provide a breakdown service.

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SKILLS REQUIREMENTS
Full clean B drivers licence.

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Days per week: 5
Hours per day: 8
Hours per week: 40
Start Date: Immediate

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EXPERIENCE REQUIRED:
Some Experience Required
Min. Experience: 1 Year

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TRANSPORT:
Transport is required for this position

Mycroft H

That's crap wage. I'd sooner work in a supermarket like Lidl for minimum wage rather then dirty work of fitting tyres.

Toyotafanboi

BX 19 wrote: »

That's crap wage. I'd sooner work in a supermarket like Lidl for minimum wage rather then dirty work of fitting tyres.

indeed and most supermarkets offer much more than minimum wage

Del2005

BX 19 wrote: »

That's crap wage. I'd sooner work in a supermarket like Lidl for minimum wage rather then dirty work of fitting tyres.

That's what I said. Truck drivers are barely earning over minimum, why would you assume a tyre fitter earns more?

Mycroft H

Del2005 wrote: »

That's what I said. Truck drivers are barely earning over minimum, why would you assume a tyre fitter earns more?

Never doubted you :pac:

It's still **** wages for a dirty job.

mickdw

BX 19 wrote: »

Never doubted you :pac:

It's still **** wages for a dirty job.

Its hardly a dirty job really. Many people would jump at it over say office, factory or shop work

Toyotafanboi

mickdw wrote: »

Its hardly a dirty job really. Many people would jump at it over say office, factory or shop work

i understand how people would prefer it over an office job etc, but you can hardly argue that a tyre fitter is a clean job.

Ardennes1944

Not everyone wants a clean job not me anyway. But I do like a decent wage, which that is not.

Toyotafanboi

Ardennes1944 wrote: »

Not everyone wants a clean job not me anyway. But I do like a decent wage, which that is not.

i done a stint as a tyre fitter, bulb and wiper guy a few years ago, back when we had the bad snow that time. Not all that pleasant now it has to be said

Cungi

mickdw wrote: »

Its hardly a dirty job really. Many people would jump at it over say office, factory or shop work

Ah to be fair its a filthy job. Ive done both and i would take my office job anyday. Lyin on the wet ground stuck under someones car tryin to loosen tracking rods that have never been done in the cars 10 yr lifespan while choking on the amount of WD40 you have to use.

Not my idea of fun.

Syllabus

from someone in the know -

346 pw would be a GOOD wage for a tyre fitter tbh

however, you would prob find that there would be a bonus structure thats extra.

a good tyre fitter can make from 150 to 300 bonus per week

Toyotafanboi

Syllabus wrote: »

from someone in the know -

346 pw would be a GOOD wage for a tyre fitter tbh

however, you would prob find that there would be a bonus structure thats extra.

a good tyre fitter can make from 150 to 300 bonus per week

how?

Syllabus

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

how?

everything a fitter fits has a bonus attached depending on how much it costs

standard ops afaik

CiniO

Syllabus wrote: »

from someone in the know -

346 pw would be a GOOD wage for a tyre fitter tbh

346 pw is 8.65 ph assuming 40h working week.
How could it be any worse?

however, you would prob find that there would be a bonus structure thats extra.

a good tyre fitter can make from 150 to 300 bonus per week

300 bonus per week in addition to minimum wage, would make it 646pw so 33.5k per annum.
This actually looks like very good wage for tyre fitter.

Syllabus

CiniO wrote: »

346 pw is 8.65 ph assuming 40h working week.
How could it be any worse?



300 bonus per week in addition to minimum wage, would make it 646pw so 33.5k per annum.
This actually looks like very good wage for tyre fitter.

those are before tax u understand.

most fitters come out with between low 400s to low 500s - into their hand


let me add a caveat - very few tyre fitters work a 40hr week most do between 42 to 50 depending on staff levels - also my place hasnt paid OT for a LONG time


not exactly a great wage for the work tbh

Toyotafanboi

Syllabus wrote: »

everything a fitter fits has a bonus attached depending on how much it costs

standard ops afaik

i really doubt most garages offer that. could be wrong though.

i doubt there's great commission to be made from runway, triangle, doublestar, wanli etc :pac:

canhefixit

Maybe the commission is based on Advance Pitstops theory of sell you as much stuff you dont need so you hit your sales target and earn your commission

CiniO

Syllabus wrote: »

those are before tax u understand.

Still - 33k before tax for being tyre fitter.
Very little responsibility and IMHO good wage.

most fitters come out with between low 400s to low 500s - into their hand


let me add a caveat - very few tyre fitters work a 40hr week most do between 42 to 50 depending on staff levels - also my place hasnt paid OT for a LONG time


not exactly a great wage for the work tbh

But sure - we are probably comparing Dublin wages to Mayo wages, and that's completely two different worlds.

Toyotafanboi

canhefixit wrote: »

Maybe the commission is based on Advance Pitstops theory of sell you as much stuff you dont need so you hit your sales target and earn your commission

surely the service manager does the selling and the fitter does the fitting though?

Syllabus

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

i really doubt most garages offer that. could be wrong though.

i doubt there's great commission to be made from runway, triangle, doublestar, wanli etc :pac:

i bow to your obvious greater exp.

how long have you worked in the tyre trade?


:rolleyes::rolleyes:


bonus/commission depends on profit made from item sold - profit = margin - therefore; the cheaper the item is purchased into stock the more profit to be made from sale

simple business

Syllabus

canhefixit wrote: »

Maybe the commission is based on Advance Pitstops theory of sell you as much stuff you dont need so you hit your sales target and earn your commission

they are a shower alright

never heard a good word on them

Syllabus

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

surely the service manager does the selling and the fitter does the fitting though?

you seem to be mixing up tyre fitting outlets with proper garages

no service managers in a tyre shop

everyones job to sell

Toyotafanboi

Syllabus wrote: »

i bow to your obvious greater exp.

how long have you worked in the tyre trade?


:rolleyes::rolleyes:


bonus/commission depends on profit made from item sold - profit = margin - therefore; the cheaper the item is purchased into stock the more profit to be made from sale

simple business

i'm not claiming to know more than you. is it wrong to question something you don't understand.

i spent a few years working in parts for a motor factors and a couple of years as service adviser in a main dealers, so i may not know it all but i do have an idea.

realistically the vast majority want cheap rubber in ireland. and i do understand the basics of business :rolleyes: that chinese plastic tyres will be the cheapest to buy, but at the same time people aren't stupid and wont pay a massive amount for them either, so i find it hard to see where an amount of "commission" worth talking about can be made.

no need to jump down my throat really.

Syllabus

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

i'm not claiming to know more than you. is it wrong to question something you don't understand.

i spent a few years working in parts for a motor factors and a couple of years as service adviser in a main dealers, so i may not know it all but i do have an idea.

realistically the vast majority want cheap rubber in ireland. and i do understand the basics of business :rolleyes: that chinese plastic tyres will be the cheapest to buy, but at the same time people aren't stupid and wont pay a massive amount for them either, so i find it hard to see where an amount of "commission" worth talking about can be made.

no need to jump down my throat really.

regardless, its is how it is.

Supergurrier

Crap money, too much value is put on certain jobs and its causing people with good practical experience in a skils that are needed to find work elsewhere in better paying jobs like in factories.

Senna

They come in for tyres and then try and up-sell alignment, new wipers or what-ever you have to sell. I'm guessing the commission is made on the small items that have a big mark-up, not the large items with little margin.

Del2005

Syllabus wrote: »

i bow to your obvious greater exp.

how long have you worked in the tyre trade?


:rolleyes::rolleyes:


bonus/commission depends on profit made from item sold - profit = margin - therefore; the cheaper the item is purchased into stock the more profit to be made from sale

simple business

The profit margin on a decent branded tyre can't be as big as ditch finders, so tyre fitters are rewarded for selling ditch finders :eek: I know people are generally scabby when buying the most important safety feature on their car, but actually making it part of the fitters take home pay to sell sub standard tyres just shows how bad a game it is.

Syllabus

Del2005 wrote: »

The profit margin on a decent branded tyre can't be as big as ditch finders, so tyre fitters are rewarded for selling ditch finders :eek: I know people are generally scabby when buying the most important safety feature on their car, but actually making it part of the fitters take home pay to sell sub standard tyres just shows how bad a game it is.

you must have been a long jumper in the olympics cos thats some leap you just took


i wont go into the finer details as i dont know them exactly but lets just say it depends on the item being sold (branded vs cheap has nothing to do with it)



really lads, im no expert but im sure this is the same in any POS business

Toyotafanboi

Syllabus wrote: »

you must have been a long jumper in the olympics cos thats some leap you just took


i wont go into the finer details as i dont know them exactly but lets just say it depends on the item being sold (branded vs cheap has nothing to do with it)



really lads, im no expert but im sure this is the same in any POS business

in a few areas i beg to differ.

what experience with the product in question do you have? not having a go, just curious

Del2005

Syllabus wrote: »

you must have been a long jumper in the olympics cos thats some leap you just took


i wont go into the finer details as i dont know them exactly but lets just say it depends on the item being sold (branded vs cheap has nothing to do with it)



really lads, im no expert but im sure this is the same in any POS business

I'm sure the margins on a container of ditch finders is much bigger than on a container of branded tyres. Bigger margin = bigger profit = more take home pay for the fitter

Toyotafanboi

Del2005 wrote: »

I'm sure the margins on a container of ditch finders is much bigger than on a container of branded tyres. Bigger margin = bigger profit = more take home pay for the fitter

surely not though.

the margin on most parts (tyres included) is percentage based, from my experience anyway.

so for example with a percentage mark up of 30% if a :
205/55/16 wanli costs a shop €30 it can be sold on for €39
205/55/16 bridgestone costs a shop €45 it can be sold on for €58.50

so more money is made on the expensive rubber. i know i didnt include the complexities of vat etc in that, but the basic theory still stands i think.

to say more money is made selling budget tyres than premium tyres, the retail price of "a tyre" would have to be standardised. obviously in ireland you'l probably turn over many many more budget tyres than premium so if you sell budget at the right price, you will of course make money like ****, but thats a whole other arguement i asume.

Syllabus

Del2005 wrote: »

I'm sure the margins on a container of ditch finders is much bigger than on a container of branded tyres. Bigger margin = bigger profit = more take home pay for the fitter

case closed so

dar83

With it now confirmed that these guys are pretty much dependant on their weekly bonuses to make their wage worthwhile, it finally makes sense that they try and sell you a new suspension setup when you go in to get a tyre fixed.

It's shocking really the stuff they find 'wrong' with cars and even worse that middle aged Mary/Michael who might know no better is caught unawares and led to believe that their car will be a danger if they leave the place without getting the work done

dave45dave

Lookingforward wrote: »

Hi. can anyone tell me the average wages for a tyre fitter outside of dublin. Just cars vans and 4x4s, Wheel alignment, Bulbs, batteries and wipers? Thank you

Your jumping off topic lads , op wanted to know the average wage for a tyre fitter. I'd say you would lucky to take home €400. Not having a go at anyone but a lot of non nationals work in this field and they bring the average take home wage down.

Seweryn

dave45dave wrote: »

... Not having a go at anyone but a lot of non nationals work in this field and they bring the average take home wage down.

Oh Dear...

sean1141

Syllabus wrote: »

you seem to be mixing up tyre fitting outlets with proper garages

no service managers in a tyre shop

everyones job to sell

Local trye shop to me is different. If you ask any of the guys on the floor about prices they send you in to the sales manager.


Op Id say min wage for tyre fitter and maybe a bonus scheme in some places but not all. I have seen a few mechanic jobs coming up lately for min wage

George Dalton

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

surely not though.

the margin on most parts (tyres included) is percentage based, from my experience anyway.

so for example with a percentage mark up of 30% if a :
205/55/16 wanli costs a shop €30 it can be sold on for €39
205/55/16 bridgestone costs a shop €45 it can be sold on for €58.50

so more money is made on the expensive rubber. i know i didnt include the complexities of vat etc in that, but the basic theory still stands i think.

to say more money is made selling budget tyres than premium tyres, the retail price of "a tyre" would have to be standardised. obviously in ireland you'l probably turn over many many more budget tyres than premium so if you sell budget at the right price, you will of course make money like ****, but thats a whole other arguement i asume.

We aren't primarily a tyre shop and so we don't sell many tyres at all compared to dedicated tyre retailers so we may be the exception but that isn't how we structure our tyre prices.

The way I look at it is, if some lad comes in for a set of 205/55 16 tyres, it doesn't matter to me whether he wants the Bridgestones or the Kingstars, it still takes one of my lads the same amount of time to get the tyres fitted. The operation is identical no matter what tyre is going on. In fact if anything it takes longer to fit the budget tyres as they can often be more hardship to fit onto the rims and need more balancing etc.

This being the case why should I make less money from doing the same job just because the customer isn't willing to spend the extra money on quality tyres?

So for that reason we charge a flat rate mark up on our tyres rather than a percentage. I think it makes more sense tbh.

Atlantic Dawn

Syllabus wrote: »

from someone in the know -

346 pw would be a GOOD wage for a tyre fitter tbh

however, you would prob find that there would be a bonus structure thats extra.

a good tyre fitter can make from 150 to 300 bonus per week

€346 is €8.65 per hour which is minimum wage, there's nothing "GOOD" about it.

Lookingforward

Thanks for all the comments. I feel it went a little off topic. One or 2 attempts to answer my question.
I'm happy enough to join the new evolved topic. Ive been working in tyre garages for years now and ive never worked in one that payed commision. Ive always worked in customer centric garages that obviously payed well considering what your saying the average wage is. In the beginning i was always told to look after the customers best interests and ive passed this on many times since.
I agree with george dalton... we have always charged the same markup whether its premium budget or midrange so it doesnt matter to us which the customer chooses. give them the pros and cons of them all and let them pick.
I realise that not all garages work like this and there are some unsavoury characters in our trade. but there are opportunists in every walk of life.

Nissan doctor

CiniO wrote: »

Still - 33k before tax for being tyre fitter.
Very little responsibility and IMHO good wage..

The person responsible for working on the only thing that keeps your car on the road has very little responsibility

Untrained and unqualified people fitting tyres can be outright dangerous.

My place pays the tyre fitters €380 per week basic starting off. Yes there is a bonus attached to tyres but its a fixed rate based on how many they fit, not brand, cost price etc as Geroge said, its the same job being done regardless of the brand of tyre being fitted.
The fitters also do not directly sell the tyres to customers, they should show and explain the problem(wear, damage etc) to the customer and then direct the customer to the reception for prices etc where the sale is made. Thats how the lads work it in my place anyway.

Henry Ford III

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qamVB4ixxGs

2.33

tossy

Nissan doctor wrote: »

The person responsible for working on the only thing that keeps your car on the road has very little responsibility

Untrained and unqualified people fitting tyres can be outright dangerous..

Picked up on that comment when it was posted but forgot to reply,i agree 100% ND,i want the person fitting my tyres to know exactly what he is doing,i'd also like the person fitting my tyres to not mangle my nice wheels and that is less likely to happen in a more professional outfit where they are paid a decent wage and are happy out.

subaru scooby

can any one fill me in how to train as a tyre fitter? please!!

Lookingforward

There is no formal training in this country. There are fast fit qualifications you need to get in England. These are not needed here although the ITIA are encouraging thier members to get certification through a company (i'll leave nameless) in Dublin. Its just posturing though so they can call anyone not in the ITIA illegitimate again. The certificate is given after a day course and would be passed by a thick chimpanzee from what i've heard.

As far as learning how to fit tyres you generally learn on the job. Its not hard if you have the right equiptment and proceedures.

Syllabus

dar83 wrote: »

With it now confirmed that these guys are pretty much dependant on their weekly bonuses to make their wage worthwhile, it finally makes sense that they try and sell you a new suspension setup when you go in to get a tyre fixed.

It's shocking really the stuff they find 'wrong' with cars and even worse that middle aged Mary/Michael who might know no better is caught unawares and led to believe that their car will be a danger if they leave the place without getting the work done

absolutely the most ridiculous couple of paragraphs ive read in a good while:rolleyes:

i can only speak in respect of where i work but my company takes overselling v. serious

only 2 weeks ago a young lad was sacked for it. we have mystery shoppers all the time come around our depots. if you are caught doing it you're shown the door, end of.

we get a bad rep for 'overselling' because of both back street and main dealer mechanics not knowing what they're talking about and the customer believing them over us cos their brothers girlfriends sisters sons mates old man says the mech is 'sound'

just one example would be brake discs - we have all the specs including min thickness. A customer comes in for pads and the discs would hold enough water for a baby to drown in due to the lip and we say to the customer they need discs and they say 'me mates a mechanic and he says they're grand. just fit the pads' - we cant for safety and insurance reasons and so we're robbing bast%*ds. The mate doesnt have the specs and so just goes by the eye. had he had them and measured it would be a diff story

dgt

subaru scooby wrote: »

can any one fill me in how to train as a tyre fitter? please!!

There's nothing to it really.

Avoid pinching the bead, watch directional tyres, mind the wheels, mind your hands etc

I'm not a tyre fitter but do my own tyre fitting and balancing. I need a tyre changing machine badly

Nissan doctor

Syllabus wrote: »

just one example would be brake discs - we have all the specs including min thickness. A customer comes in for pads and the discs would hold enough water for a baby to drown in due to the lip and we say to the customer they need discs and they say 'me mates a mechanic and he says they're grand. just fit the pads' - we cant for safety and insurance reasons and so we're robbing bast%*ds. The mate doesnt have the specs and so just goes by the eye. had he had them and measured it would be a diff story

The way we used to deal with that one was to tell the customer that if they brought the car to a main dealer for whatever car it was, and they said that the disks were within spec, we would changed the pads for free. The vast majority of the customers agree'd to have the disks changed then.

Lookingforward

hey dgt... pm me if your looking for a tyre machine.