Anybody fancy a lay a day?

Kankan14

For my next silly scheme I've decided to do a little laying log(no pun intended).
Ive lodged 100 for a starting bank. Gonna start off laying anything from horses to football teams I think are too short. Max liability for anyone lay is going to be €10 until/if we increase our bank to €250 or €300 then may increase it or withdraw original stake for the free roll .

I'm gonna have to do this on Betdaq though because I already have a stash on betfair for Cheltenham/League of Ireland betting purposes.
Lays may vary from one every few days to loads in a day. There's no set time limit.
Feel free to stick up anything you think is too short a price or just isn't capable of winning. I'll be back at some stage with my first lay.
BTW I'm aware what I'm doing is not strictly a lay a day but those kind of restrictions would be stupid imo

Kankan14

Picked 3 horses to lay today. Changing ground recently means horses a little shorter than they should be I'm hoping.

1) Leicster 3.35 Lay Ravethebrave @2.37 his win last time was on soft ground and there is enough in the race for me to oppose him. Rash move won on good ground the time before last (good and good to firm in places today). His mistake late the last day took it out of him or he'd have taken much closer order. Also classinglass and presentandcorrect both won a PTP last time out.
Laying Ravethebrave for €5 to lose €6.85

2) Ayr 3.45 laying Ballabriggan @2.1
Not bad form of late was 3rd of 4 last time in a novice chase and his recent win was in a h'cap hurdle.
Quintara and 3 other all making chasing debut today so could be anything really. Twentypoundluck made his chase debut last time out was hampered late on having led a long way and would have finessed closer imo. Again there's enough there for me to 2.1 is too short about the jolly.

Laying Ballabriggan for €5 to lose €5.50

3) 5.10 Sandown laying Valcode TOuzaine @ 2.4.
For me Nicholls horses are always underpriced in novice/maiden hurdles. To be fair his last three runs were on ground much softer than today's good, g/s in places.
There are some interesting contenders in the race though fair bramble has course form and would have been closer here only for a bad mistake at the last.
Viva Stevie dropped back to two miles today where he was 2nd on last two efforts at this distance in nov hurdles.
The real interesting one for me is an ex D.Weld horse called Expanding Paradise won a Fairyhouse bumper for Weld and was far from disgraced in two decent maiden hurdles in Ireland on ground soft or heavy both times.
Laying Valcode TOuzaine for €5 to lose €7.

Balance: 80.65

Kankan14

^^^^^^
all 3 were beaten.

Balance €114.40

Kankan14

Have a few lays for today. Had looked at more rugby,tennis,soccer and horses but left it at these. No time for a write up on my selections today.
Just that I fancy the horses have enough in the races against them to make them opposable, the tennis matches are much closer than the betting is priced up and the golf 2 balls are priced up a little askew also.


1)4.40 Wolverhampton Braxbourne(2.3) laying for €5 to lose 6.80.
2)5.35 Gowran Park Indevan(2.14)
laying for €5 to lose 5.60
3) ATP Paribas Open laying Youzhny(1.4) against Mayer for €5 to lose €2
4) WTA Paribas Open laying Peng(1.47) against Dulgheru for €5 to lose €2.35
5)WTA Paribas Open laying Makerova(1.52) against Mulguruza for €5 to lose €2.54.
6)Golf WGC third round 2 ball
Laying J.Furyk(1.85) against Mannesero for €5 to lose €4
7)Golf WGC third round 2 ball
Laying R.Sterne (2.2) against R.Henley for €5 to lose €6

Balance €83.89

Kankan14

So 5 successful lays out of 7 from today.
Furyk and Peng both won to be our only losers.

New Balance:€131.83

Kankan14

2 lays today both at Naas

1) 5.10Foxrock was very unimpressive last time for me and didnt pick up at all I don't see 3 miles as the best trip for this one.
There's enough in the race to make 3.0 too short.
Laying Foxrock for €5 to lose €10
2) 5.40 Coluer France only one run third and the 2nd fab has been taken out. Which makes the price of this one Too short to me at 2.5. There's enough debutants and horses who can progress to make that price too short for me.
Laying Coluer France for €5 to lose €7.50

Kankan14

Foxtrot won but at least the other one lost. A slightly losing day with 1 bet out of 2 correct.

Balance € 126.43

Kankan14

A few tennis lays tonight, as I probably won't be on tomorrow with cheltenham starting Tuesday.
All are at Indian Wells. The Paribas Open

1) ATP.
Laying Nishikori v Petschnizer
These two only met once and it went to a decider Nishi winning 7-5. But with neither too playing much of late I think he's too short.
Laying Nishikori for €5 to lose €1.25 @1.25

2) ATP
Laying Sam Querrey v R.Karlovic
Their head to head is even at 3-3 and both players have a pretty poor record on hard court in recent times. This one won't be a great spectacle to watch and I'd make it about 4/5 for Querrey so think the 1.47 on offer is too short.
Laying S.Querrey for €5 to lose €2.35 @1.47

3) WTA
Laying A.Radwanska v S.Cirstea
Aggie is very short and probably rightly so but Cirstea is not bad on hard court with a record of 9 wins and 6 losses this season. Not as good as Radwanska at 18/3 but the head to head is only 5-3 to Radwanska. So it's a speculative lay at a very short price.
Laying Radwanska for €5 to lose .55c @1.11

4) WTA
Laying Kvitova v Tsurenko
I think Tsurenko can cause a surprise here. They've never met but both have good records on hard court Kvitova 10/4 and Tsurenko 13/3 with Kvitova playing so much tennis recently she can't be 100%.
Laying Kvitova for €5 to lose €1.65 @ 1.33

5) WTA
Laying M.Bartoli v Kuznetsova
I'm never convinced Bartoli is gonna get through a match without trying to kill someone her temperament is questionable at best. When she's good she is very good but can crumble very easy. Kuznetsova has been slowly coming back to form nicely and will be much more at home here than Bartoli I think.
Laying Bartoli for €5 to lose €6.70 @ 2.34

Quite a few bets there that are short priced and speculative. There's just no value if the fav's for me in any of them and they'll all have tough matches to get through so happy to take them on.

Balance : €113.93

Kankan14

No good last night. Balance remains as above

Kankan14

Plenty of horses for tomorrow as well as a football and tennis bet(tennis in wee small hours).
NB a couple of the horse bets havent been matched yet. Liquidity apart from Cheltenham is a little sparse the night before racing.

1)League Two Northampton away to Morecambe
Northampton obly won 4 times away from home. Likewise Morecambe have only lost 4 times at home all season.
Laying N'hampton at 2.7 for €5 to lose €8.50.
2) Paire v Simon
I think Simon should be 1/3 not any bigger so I'll oppose Paire. Paire is very much a momentum player and even though he leads the head to head 2-0 he has been in poor form recently losing 3 of his last 4 first round matches. Simon has been decent of late beating Del Potro and losing in the semi in Marseilles to Tsonga.
Laying Paire @2.5 for €5 to lose €7.50.
3) sedgefield race 3.
Party Rock will have to defy a big penalty and I don't see him being good enough to even in low grade stuff like this.
Laying party rock @1.73 for €5 to lose 3.66.
4) sedgefield race 5.
Laying Dunluce Castle @2.3 for €5 to lose €6.50
5)Southwell race 1
This maiden is a lot more open for me than the fav's price suggests.
Laying Star of Rohme @2.44 for €5 to lose €7.20
6) Cheltenham race 2.
Not a very inspiring renewal of the arkle. Soft ground and only two places mean I don't fancy overturn at all at all.
Place laying overturn @2.12 for €5 to lose €5.60
7)Cheltenham race 4
As Champion Hurdles go it's not the best we'll see but a combination on soft ground and a slow pace will not suit rock on ruby at all IMO.
Place laying Rock on Ruby @2.06 for €5 to lose €5.30
8)Cheltenham race 6.
In the mares hurdle I think the first two are certainly coming from quevega and use artiste. So with one place to fight for it could go anyway.
Place laying Kentford Grey Lady@2.9 for €5 to lose €9.50.

Balance is €60.18.
Could do with Tuesday going well to get some momentum for the remainder of the festival.

Kankan14

Northampton lost in football
Paire lost in tennis.
The only horse to let us down was Rock on ruby who got second. Sedgefield was abandoned to two non runners there.

Overall 5 winners from 6 and two non runners.

Balance €131.63

Kankan14

4 lays for tomorrow. Racing at the festival is tough, lots of good priced winners to find though. Again no overnight liquidity in the markets on betdaq. A little guesswork involved at getting match at the right price.

1) 2.40 Cheltenham
Place laying Boston Bob. This is based a bit on the fact be bombed out here last year in a diff race. I'm not convinced he likes the track at all. Also don't think the form of his racing this year is anything to boast about for the most part.
Place laying Boston Bob for €5 @2.00 to lose €5.
2)race 2 at Kempton You da One at least 4 other horses in the race have placed efforts in average maidens but may not need to progress much to win here. Very opposable for me on first run of the year.
Laying You da One for €5 @ 1.8 to lose €4.
3) Race 5 Southwell laying masterful act.
I just don't think he can defy the penalty.
Laying masterful act for €5 @ 2.1 to lose €5.50.
4)Race 6 Southwell laying fraserburgh
If my tissue is right he'll be about evens which is too short. Plenty of competitive progressive types to oppose him with.
Laying Fraserburgh for €5 @2.00 to lose €5.


Balance €111.63

Michael Weston

Fair play to you on the updates its interesting to watch

Kankan14

Two winners and two losers yesterday. Nothing for today as yet.

Balance€129.83

Kankan14

No fancies today at all and having a quick look at tomorrows tennis football and racing nothing jumps outs as of yet

Kankan14

Been pretty busy and no time for a right up.

2 lays this evening.

Laying leicster away to derby for €5 @2.4 to lose €7
Laying Nadal against Berdych for €5 @1.55 to lose €2.75.

Balance €120.06

EDIT: 1 more. A horse this time.
8.50 Wolverhampton Sharaar laying for €5 @2.44 to lose 7.40.

Balance now €112.60

Kankan14

Nadal won but our football and horse lays were successful.
Balance €136.20

Kankan14

Pretty busy so no time for a big write up again. I'm taking on the two short priced fav's in the tennis and benzocaine just because they are too short.

1) laying Sharapova v Wozniacki for €5 @1.28 to lose 1.40
2) laying Nadal v Del Potro for €5@1.61 to lose 3.05
3) laying Benfica for €5@1.38 to lose 1.90.

Balance €129.85

Kankan14

3 bad results tonight. Balance as you were

Kankan14

Not forgetting this. Absolutely slammed with work.

Kankan14

Just a quick line two lays on away teams in airtricity Div one.
1)Laying Longford for €5 @2.6 to lose €8

2)Laying Wexford for €5 @2.3 to lose €6.50.


Balance €115.35

Kankan14

Longford lost but Wexford scored a last minute winner so we lost a little on the night.


Balance €127.35

Kankan14

We're back today. Free from work next couple of weeks so I may concentrate on this a good bit more

5 lays today all the football ones are because I think they are too short away from home. Also the horse is way too short

1) laying Tammy's Hill @1.35 for €5 to lose €1.75
2)laying Shamrock away to limerick @1.93 for €5 to lose €4.65
3)laying Forfar away to Albion @2.06 for €5 to lose €5.30
4)laying Partick away to Raith @1.88 for €5 to lose €4.40
5)laying Barcelona away to PSG @1.88 for €5 to lose €4.40

New balance €106.85

Kankan14

Barca Partick and Shamrock all failed to win.

Balance €134.10

Kankan14

Laying under 2.5 goals in Dundalk v limerick match
just see both teams scoring plenty recently and no reason why that trend won't continue.

Laying under 2.5 @1.75 for €5 to lose €3.75

Balance €130.35

Kankan14

Game finished 2-2 so we won.

Balance €139.00

Kankan14

Did a lot of studying across varying sports and came up with almost, 60bets!
I have wittled it down to this lot.
All lays are to win €5, the figure in brackets is liability for each bet.


Horses
1) Chep 1.30 Red Admirable @ 2.86 (9.30)
2) 2.55 Navan Aonvarr, @2.26(6.20)
3) 4.00 Navan Moon Dice @2.8 (9.00)
4)4.35 Navan Raithlin @2.54(7.70)
5)8.20 Wolv Griletto @2.7 (8.50)
6)3.55 Newc Can You Conga@2.38(6.90)
7)3.00 Ling Van Der Veer @1.56(2.80)
8)3.40 Ling shafaani @1.93(4.65)
9)5.55Ling Market Town@1.61(3.05)

Football
1)Southampton away to reading @2.24(6.20)
2)Chesterfield away to Barnet @2.86(9.30)
3)Molde away to Brann @2.8(9.00)

Rugby
Ulster away to Saracens @2.9(9.50)

Tennis
Davis Cup
Monaco to lose to Tsonga, @2.8(9.00)

Golf
Texas Open 3balls
Harrington against Hanson&Laird @2.74(8.70)
2)Schwartel against Points &Merrick@2.1(5.50)
3)KJ Choi against Goosen &Kohles @2.66(8.30)

Lots of bets today so pretty big exposure let's hope we laid a bunch of easy no hopers.

NB* A couple of the he later ones have not yet been matched.

Balance €15.40

Kankan14

Not great today. Horses were slightly profitable helped by one not getting matched(Grilletto at Wolves).
Rugby went well with no sweat.
Golf was poor laying two winners and a dead heat. Football wasn't much better one out of three right(Molde)
Tennis bet still has to run fixed for tomorrow afternoon.

Balance with tennis to run €121.85

Kankan14

Tsonga won in straight sets to bring us back a little more.

Balance €135.65

Kankan14

Going to put these up in different posts today to make it easier to read.

Golf Augusta Masters 2balls
1) laying R.Sterne v Z.Johnson@2.3 to lose €6.50
2)laying B.Haas v Kuchar @2.56 to lose €7.80
3)laying J.Dufner v Scott @2.7 to lose €8.50

Balance €123.75

Kankan14

Rugby
Laying Munster @2.6v Leinster to lose €8

Tennis
laying Klizan @2.44 v Anderson to lose €7.20

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Football
1)laying B.Munich @1.27 v Nurnberg to lose€1.35
2)laying Doncaster @2.22 v Crewe to lose €6.10
3)laying Liverpool @ 1.51 v Reading to lose €2.55

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Horse racing
1) laying Slate Lady 5.40 Tramore @2.6 to lose €8.00
2)laying Solar Deity 3.50 Kempton @2.74 to lose €8.70
3)laying One Conemara 2.10 Uttoxeter@2.68 to lose €8.40
4)laying Zarzal @2.00 to lose €5
5)laying Donny Rover @2.86 to lose €9.30

Kankan14

All lays are to win €5 and are all matched.

Obv all prices I think are too short

Balance €59.15

Kankan14

A really good day yesterday with only Doncaster and Bayern Munich leaving us down.
11 bets up and two losers

Balance €191.90

Kankan14

Taking on 4 horses today all bet are to win €5 as always

1) 2.05 Leopardstown Michaelmas ,@1.79 to lose €3.95
2)2.50 Ffos Las Akarshan @2.82 to lose €9.10
3)5.30 Ffos Las Bringithomeminty @2.88 to lose €9.40
4)4.50 Wincanton The Clock Leary @2.82 to lose €9.10

Balance €160.35

Kankan14

We went 4 from 4 today :-)

Balance €210.50

Kankan14

A few for today. All feel a little too short. All lays for €5, if today goes well I'll probably Bump up to €10.

1) 15.10 Redcar lay Dairam @2.2 to lose €6
2)16.10 Redcar lay Tribal Path to lose €4.30
3)16.40 Redcar lay Studfarmer to lose €7.10
4)16.15 Leopardstown lay Indian Chief to lose €2.50
5)16.45 Leopardstown lay Scintilla @2.12 to lose €5.60

Balance €185
That's all for now

Kankan14

Indian Chief won the other 4 all beaten giving us some nice profit with 4 from 5 correct

Kankan14

Thought I’d do a proper update at this point, not even sure anyone is reading this but here goes

Balance €227.20

In total 72 bet have been laid,broken down as follows

1) Horses (40 bets) +111.60
2) Soccer (16 bets) +6.55
3) Tennis (14 bets) +1.95
4) Rugby (2 bets) +9.60

So pretty small sample size but clearly running best on horses and close to breakeven on tennis. Marginal profit is profit is profit though I suppose.

More than doubling your bank over 72 lays is very good
I wouldnt be tempted to increase the liability per bet just yet, there's no rush and its the trap most fall into.

Kankan14

Ya I origanally said I'd wait til 300, so maybe I'll go to has to way.

Kankan14

3 for this evening I've kept Max liability to ten euro so all lays to win €5.

1)6.20 Dundalk harpist @2.48 to lose €7.40
2)9.20 Dundalk Spirit of Concorde @2.1 to lose €5.5
3)Chelsea away to Fulham @1.78 to lose €3.90

Kankan14

Both horses were beaten Chelsea did win handy though:(

Balance €232.90

Kankan14

A few for today
1) lay Lisowski 1St rd. Snooker
@2.28 to lose €6.40
2)lay arsenal v Fulham @1.66 to lose €3.30
3) lay Dinamo Zagreb @1.73 to lose €3.65
4)Thirsk Nordikhab @1.96 to lose €4.80
5)Newbury Kylachy Rise @2.54 to lose €7.70
6)Tramore Perfect Gentleman @1.92 to lose €4.60
7)Tramore Sweet My Lord @2.8 to lose €9.00

All lays are to win €5
Balance €193.45

Kankan14

Not terrible yet not great either the weekend with Sweet my Lord and the two football teams both doing us. 4 bets correct from 7

EDIT: Balance €236.15

Kankan14

8 for today all horseracing.

1)1.30 N.Abbot Royal Guardsman @2.34(7.20)
2)2.10 Ffos Las No To Trident @2.8(9.00)
3)2.20 Wolverhampton Strategic Strike @2.74(8.70)
4)4.20 Punchestown Champagne Fever @2.44(7.20)
5)5.40 Yarmouth Chester Row @2.72(8.60)
6)5.20 Towcester Quipe Me Posted @2.00(5.00)
7)6.30 Towcester Queen of Mantua @2.76(8.80)
8)7.35 Towcester Bleuvito @2.18(5.90)

All lays to win €5

Balance €176.25

Kankan14

5 correct from 8 today but the liability of those 3 was quite big so an ever so slightly losing day.

Balance €235.95

Kankan14

Back at it today. With 6 horses and two football teams I'm happy to take on. All lays are to win €5 as always. Numbers in brackets are our liability figures.


Football
1) Norwich@2.58(7.90)
2)WBA @2.28(6.40)

Horses
1)4.20 Limk Burn and Turn @2.4(7.00)
2)3.20 Thirsk You're the Boss @1.7(3.50)
3)5.40 Doncaster Thunder Strike @2.2(6.00)
4)6.10 Doncaster Floating Along @2.2(6.00)
5),7.20 Doncaster Ebn Arab @ 2.12(5.60)
6)5.00 Newmarket Windhoek @2.1(5.50)

That's it for now

Balance €188.05

Kankan14

4/8 correct for a slight losing day.

Balance €231.05

Kankan14

A few more for today. All to win €5 with liability in brackets.

Football
1) Lyon away to Nancy @2.9(9.50)
2) Fenerbache away to Istanbul BB @2.16(5.80)

Horses
1) Salisbury 2.55 Fig Roll @2.96(9.80)
2)Sligo 3.00 Honey Bach @2.28(6.40)
3)Sligo 5.50 Totally Dominant @2.02(5.10)
4)Limk 4.20 An Seanchean @2.3(6.50)
5)Hamilton 4.35 Frasers Hill @1.84(4.80)

Balance €183.75