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LiveATC Feed Down for EIDW.

  • 05-03-2013 9:30pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭


    It looks like the EIDW/DUB feed to LiveATC.net is down indefinitely. This is bad news. I spent many hours listening to this feed and watching FlightRadar24 at the same time.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/liveatc


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭james142


    crosstownk wrote: »
    It looks like the EIDW/DUB feed to LiveATC.net is down indefinitely. This is bad news. I spent many hours listening to this feed and watching FlightRadar24 at the same time.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/liveatc

    Thats a shame. Is it easy to set up one of those feed things so someone could get it back up? Do you have to be near the airport?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭Stealthirl


    The requirements for a feed provider are as follows:

    - Be located somewhat close to the airport (within 15mi/24km)
    - Have "always on" Internet connection (but feed uses only 16kbps)
    - Have an external or attic antenna (for optimum reception, optional)
    - Have audio cable to connect scanner to PC sound card
    - Have computer w/ spare sound card (Windows, Mac OS X, or Linux)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭james142


    Stealthirl wrote: »
    The requirements for a feed provider are as follows:

    - Be located somewhat close to the airport (within 15mi/24km)
    - Have "always on" Internet connection (but feed uses only 16kbps)
    - Have an external or attic antenna (for optimum reception, optional)
    - Have audio cable to connect scanner to PC sound card
    - Have computer w/ spare sound card (Windows, Mac OS X, or Linux)

    Does that mean the computer must be on 24/7 then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    Stealthirl wrote: »
    The requirements for a feed provider are as follows:

    - Be located somewhat close to the airport (within 15mi/24km)
    - Have "always on" Internet connection (but feed uses only 16kbps)
    - Have an external or attic antenna (for optimum reception, optional)
    - Have audio cable to connect scanner to PC sound card
    - Have computer w/ spare sound card (Windows, Mac OS X, or Linux)

    The previous feed seemed to cover all frequencies used at Dublin Airport. Unfortunately my receiver only manually tunes so can only provide one frequency at a time.

    I have an iMac and would have no problem leaving it on 24/7 to keep this service up and running.

    How much would a suitable scanner and external sound card set me back?

    Am I too distant from the airport?

    EDIT: I have an older Apple PowerBook that I could dedicate to this 90% of the time. It has audio in. Would that suffice? How much upstream data would be needed per month to keep the service up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,476 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    james142 wrote: »
    Does that mean the computer must be on 24/7 then?

    Yes.

    I ran the Shannon one many many moons ago


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭Reoil


    If I was close I would! Unfortunately, I'm close to Aldergrove. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    I'm about 15km South of Dublin Airport and about 20m below the threshold of RWY28. Reception of ground transmissions from the airport on my old 1980s receiver is poor. I'll need to look into a better antenna before I put myself forward for this gig.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭keroseneboy


    I used to provide the Audio feed for LFMN tower but am moving to Dublin and will bring my SBS-1er ADS/B + radio with me. I will set it up to feed LiveATC in the US starting April 1st. I will offer Ads/B feed to fr24 too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 653 ✭✭✭Aphex


    EIDW is active again but I can't hear anything. Anyone else having this problem?

    Edit: Back down again. I'm guessing it will be up and running very soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 declanfoleyirl


    Hi,

    I've offered my feed to LIVEATC and there is a router on the way from them.

    I'll hook it up during the week and hopefully we'll all be back in business.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭Scone190


    Hi,

    I've offered my feed to LIVEATC and there is a router on the way from them.

    I'll hook it up during the week and hopefully we'll all be back in business.

    Thanks thats great news !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    Hi,

    I've offered my feed to LIVEATC and there is a router on the way from them.

    I'll hook it up during the week and hopefully we'll all be back in business.

    Good man. Get a move on :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    I see there is now a feed up for the EIDW Tower.

    Is it just me or does anyone else find the signal almost impossible to hear? I can hear mostly static and just about hear the transmission in the background. So far I have only used the iPhone/iPad app rather than the website but I assume there shoud be no difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 527 ✭✭✭de biz


    Agreed@croostownk,guess it needs some fine tuning.Nevertheless credit to the provider for their effort.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    de biz wrote: »
    Agreed@croostownk,guess it needs some fine tuning.Nevertheless credit to the provider for their effort.

    Yes. Fair play to anyone who is prepared to supply the feed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭keroseneboy


    crosstownk wrote: »
    Yes. Fair play to anyone who is prepared to supply the feed.

    The reason the feed is hard to hear is due to the cheap antenna used to capture EIDW Tower 118.6. The location is good, though.

    Any advice on arials and where to buy a better one would be appreciated. The box is Kenetic SBS1er.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    The reason the feed is hard to hear is due to the cheap antenna used to capture EIDW Tower 118.6. The location is good, though.

    Any advice on arials and where to buy a better one would be appreciated.

    First of all, thanks for offering to provide the feed.

    I'm no expert on antennae but I'd imagine a decent discone would do the job. CQ Comms in Dublin CC sell them but you might get better value on eBay and the like.

    I used to use a discone years ago in Templeogue that was mounted on the side of the house about 20m high and with an old manually tuned receiver I used to pull in aircraft on the ground quite clearly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 612 ✭✭✭Dublinflyer


    I see the feed is still down. I would be more than happy to supply it if anybody can point me in the direction of an inexpensive receiver. I live pretty close to EIDW and have an external antenna.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,561 ✭✭✭andy_g


    I see the feed is still down. I would be more than happy to supply it if anybody can point me in the direction of an inexpensive receiver. I live pretty close to EIDW and have an external antenna.

    I got mine in maplins a few years ago they always have a nice selection. will pop a pic up when im home later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭Veloce


    It would be great to have the EIDW receiver back up & running. Really enjoy listening to it on my liveatc app.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 declanfoleyirl


    im waiting on device from liveatc. watch this space. ETA 10 days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    im waiting on device from liveatc. watch this space. ETA 10 days

    Fair play.

    I see that the prevoius 'EIDW Tower' has been removed.

    I'll be watching and waiting..................


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,370 ✭✭✭b757


    im waiting on device from liveatc. watch this space. ETA 10 days

    Thanks Declan! Any chance for Dublin Tower, App, Gnd , etc?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,495 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    It'd be great if we could get that feed we had during the big storm a couple of months ago.

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭Razor44


    i use airwaves Ireland, flight tracking a r/t its great

    atc live is great on the phone mind you :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭Mech1


    flazio wrote: »
    It'd be great if we could get that feed we had during the big storm a couple of months ago.

    It was me that supplied that feed, and I have today emailed liveatc to register my interest in providing the feed to them. we will see what happens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭Mech1


    Looks like my stream request has been granted :D. Liveatc software running and EIDW3 should be live on the system soon, it is already live to them, just gotta be put live on their side.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    Mech1 wrote: »
    Looks like my stream request has been granted :D. Liveatc software running and EIDW3 should be live on the system soon, it is already live to them, just gotta be put live on their side.

    Good work Mech, and thanks again for the feed during the high winds a few months back. That was the best thread ever and wouldn't have been half as good without the feed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 612 ✭✭✭Dublinflyer


    Looks like you beat me to it! I still have the request in with liveatc so I will see if I can set up a feed anyway. Maybe I can provide a different feed, I can feed ground if you are doing the tower or the other way round. I am pretty close to the airport so can generally hear both sides of the ground conversation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    Mech1 wrote: »
    Looks like my stream request has been granted :D. Liveatc software running and EIDW3 should be live on the system soon, it is already live to them, just gotta be put live on their side.

    Good man and thanks!:)

    Will you be providing just one frequency or will you have your scanner set to scan through the various EIDW frequencies?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭Mech1


    Looks like you beat me to it! I still have the request in with liveatc so I will see if I can set up a feed anyway. Maybe I can provide a different feed, I can feed ground if you are doing the tower or the other way round. I am pretty close to the airport so can generally hear both sides of the ground conversation.

    The liveatc guys said that they need "redundancy" in dublin so i guess both yours and mine will be set up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭Mech1


    crosstownk wrote: »
    Good man and thanks!:)

    Will you be providing just one frequency or will you have your scanner set to scan through the various EIDW frequencies?

    hopefully the full EIDW range scanning but i may need to drop 1 or 2 if it gets too cluttered or confusing to follow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    Mech1 wrote: »
    hopefully the full EIDW range scanning but i may need to drop 1 or 2 if it gets too cluttered or confusing to follow.

    Excellent! And also great to hear that dublinflyer's stream will also be used.

    I'm looking forward to hearing this up and running.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭Mech1


    Live now, all comments welcome, good or bad:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 382 ✭✭Brad768


    Working perfectly over here! Thank you :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    Mech1 wrote: »
    Live now, all comments welcome, good or bad:D

    :cool:

    Excellent. Quality is very good. Ground transmissions are clear and audible and better than what I'd expect given your location.

    Many thanks for volunteering the stream.

    Thanks again, Mech1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    Good work, tx.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 612 ✭✭✭Dublinflyer


    Just got mail from liveATC with my setup instructions so I will get my feed going shortly. The reception should be good as this is the view from my window!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭Razor44


    Just got mail from liveATC with my setup instructions so I will get my feed going shortly. The reception should be good as this is the view from my window!

    nice window


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    The reception should be good as this is the view from my window!

    Are you Tom Hanks..........?:D:pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭Mech1


    Just got mail from liveATC with my setup instructions so I will get my feed going shortly. The reception should be good as this is the view from my window!

    Ok we gotta sort out the feed sharing on this if its gonna work well, How about you feed all ground control, rescue, aer lingus ops and ryan air ops etc and i'll stick to the tower, approach, radar type transmissions?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,370 ✭✭✭b757


    Mech1 wrote: »
    Ok we gotta sort out the feed sharing on this if its gonna work well, How about you feed all ground control, rescue, aer lingus ops and ryan air ops etc and i'll stick to the tower, approach, radar type transmissions?

    Or Baldonnel and Weston too? :p

    Thanks again to all who may be putting a stream up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,561 ✭✭✭andy_g


    Have to say even though i have a scanner here myself your feed is clearer than mine :O think i'll switch my scanner off now :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭Mech1


    Thanks everyone for the feedback:D

    Now, I want to be ready to switch channels on the days of Bray Airshow and Flightfest.

    http://www.flightfest.ie/

    http://www.brayairdisplay.com/

    So if anyone gets a "heads up" on freq that will be in use, please let me know.

    On the days above I expect to be feeding Weston / Baldonnell / Newcastle / Eidw airspace as they are all available here, but i need the pilot to pilot freq.

    Thanks again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    Mech1 wrote: »
    Live now, all comments welcome, good or bad:D

    It's great, but if you could make the weather a bit more "interesting" too, that'd be super.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    Mech1 wrote: »
    Live now, all comments welcome, good or bad:D

    Oh my God thank you! That feed is amazing, Mech to the rescue with the DUB ATC feeds again :)
    Just got mail from liveATC with my setup instructions so I will get my feed going shortly. The reception should be good as this is the view from my window!

    Trade houses?
    keith16 wrote: »
    It's great, but if you could make the weather a bit more "interesting" too, that'd be super.

    Good times hehe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 612 ✭✭✭Dublinflyer


    That's the view from my office :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 declanfoleyirl


    I've just received my box from liveatc so we'll have some more redundancy on this v soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭Mech1


    I've just received my box from liveatc so we'll have some more redundancy on this v soon.

    What sort of a box did you need? Mine runs with nothing but the atc software.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 declanfoleyirl


    it's a raspberry pi device. I paid for it. Basically a mini pc that means I don't need to leave a pc on. I'll let you know if I get it working.


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