Beyond: Two Souls

Zero-Cool

I remember starting a thread for this last year but can't find it.

Anyway, Willem Defoe has been added to the cast. Looks like a very very interesting game. I was a big fan of Heavy Rain (must play through that again!) so will definitely be checking this out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4XZRe7abTs

Original Reveal trailer here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeL8j-rEF1M

CastorTroy

Any word on what type of game this is? Sorry if shown in that trailer but can't view it at work. Is it QTE based like Heavy Rain?

Zero-Cool

Looks to be QTE based like Heavy Rain alright. Here is a vid of gameplay if you get a chance to have a look at it.

http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/g1bahr/beyond--two-souls-gc-2012--sandbox-walkthrough--cam-

F1ngers

Live at Tribeca now:

http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2013/04/27/beyond-two-souls-live-at-tribeca-film-festival-2/

tok9

Here's a trailer prior to the event.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9D1N-MHwog

F1ngers

Hi everyone, today we’re excited to unveil the first of our four part Making Of series for upcoming PS3 title BEYOND: Two Souls.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/07/09/behind-the-scenes-of-beyond-two-souls-the-origins/

Only two months to go - looking forward to this.

Firehen

Very interested to see how this goes.

I enjoyed Heavy Rain as it was a decent story that integrated well into a game for the most part but there was just too much padding. Whole sections of 'gameplay' that would have been better off as just cut scenes or left out entirely. I don't mind if they help move the story along or develop the characters but there was too much unneccessary padding with basic player interaction.

Zero-Cool

That 'making of' looked incredible. This and GTA V could hold off the PS4 until the new year for me.

Richard Dower

sheehy83 wrote: »

That 'making of' looked incredible. This and GTA V could hold off the PS4 until the new year for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejAEmllHQbE

tok9

It does look good but I can't help feeling it'll be a mess.

The trailer they showed in E3 showed a lot more content I wish it hadn't but it also showed that the story seems huge and going by Heavy Rains story, I'm a little worried by that.

Love the trailer music though

Richard Dower

does anyone else find ellen paige weird

Retr0gamer

Richard Dower wrote: »

does anyone else find ellen paige weird

Only if you've seen Hard Candy.

Elessar

Ellen Page gives me wet dreams :pac:


Can't wait for this!

F1ngers

Hi everyone. Today we can unveil the second of our four part ‘Making of’ series for upcoming PS3 adventure BEYOND: Two Souls

http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2013/07/23/beyond-two-souls-gameplay-detailed-in-new-video/

C14N

I'm very interested in this. Heavy Rain had some good ideas with so-so execution imo but I tend to let it off on a sort of "first attempt" kind of thing. Hopefully, this is a chance to refine some of the things that weren't so good about it and make a more compelling game.

Backfire

I saw some gameplay footage on youtube recently, it looks very impressive indeed.

Everyone keeps comparing it to Heavy Rain, a game I was not impressed with at all, found it boring and lacking in actual gameplay.

Difficult to judge Beyond Two Souls just by looking at trailers, but some of the gameplay footage shown is impressive. I just hope it has a lot of it in the game.

mystic86

Did anybody else enter and 'win' a place to attend the Odeon on Harcourt Street on Wednesday next from 12-2pm to get an early look at Beyond: Two Souls as well as getting to play some of it, along with a bit of a talk from Guillaume de Fondaumière who will be in attendance...?

mystic86

mystic86 wrote: »

Did anybody else enter and 'win' a place to attend the Odeon on Harcourt Street on Wednesday next from 12-2pm to get an early look at Beyond: Two Souls as well as getting to play some of it, along with a bit of a talk from Guillaume de Fondaumière who will be in attendance...?

No response

OK let's try the next question - anybody interested in going to it?

Daemos

Just pre-ordered the Special Edition on Amazon, although both versions are unavailable at the moment. The Special Edition includes:

Exclusive steel book premium packaging
Additional playable scene (30 mins gameplay)
Behind the scenes videos
Game soundtrack
PS3 Dynamic Theme
PSN Avatar Bundle

When they were available on Amazon, both the standard and special edition were the same price; even GameStop only has the special edition as €5 more expensive. Pretty good value, actually

I'm really looking forward to this. I loved Heavy Rain, and I'm hoping the popularity of The Walking Dead might earn it a few more people willing to give it a try

tok9

It was available when I ordered it. Great price for it and I just hope the soundtrack includes the music from the trailers.

Retr0gamer

A friend of mine talked to the guys from Quantic Dream and apparently they have taken on the criticism of Heavy Rain. Getting a bit more hopeful about this game.

tok9

Retr0gamer wrote: »

A friend of mine talked to the guys from Quantic Dream and apparently they have taken on the criticism of Heavy Rain. Getting a bit more hopeful about this game.

That is good to hear. Still wish they hadn't revealed so much with the trailers.

mystic86

Retr0gamer wrote: »

A friend of mine talked to the guys from Quantic Dream and apparently they have taken on the criticism of Heavy Rain. Getting a bit more hopeful about this game.

You make your friend sound so important.

I spoke to 'Quantic Dream' too, asked some questions of my own.

But I certainly wouldn't hang on every claim they make during their publicity tour.

The proof will be in the pudding. Not that I had an issue with Heavy Rain, I loved that game.

Backfire

Daemos wrote: »

Just pre-ordered the Special Edition on Amazon, although both versions are unavailable at the moment. The Special Edition includes:

Exclusive steel book premium packaging
Additional playable scene (30 mins gameplay)
Behind the scenes videos
Game soundtrack
PS3 Dynamic Theme
PSN Avatar Bundle

When they were available on Amazon, both the standard and special edition were the same price; even GameStop only has the special edition as €5 more expensive. Pretty good value, actually

I'm really looking forward to this. I loved Heavy Rain, and I'm hoping the popularity of The Walking Dead might earn it a few more people willing to give it a try

Thanks for making that informative post, I actually just ordered the Special Edition myself a few minutes ago on the Gamestop website. Got it for €59.97 + €2 for postage.

I know I wont get it for launch day, probably the following monday, but I don't mind. I am looking forward to this game.

Oh and its my first time that I have ever pre-ordered a game and not only that, the first time I will be getting the special edition of a game.

That 30mins extra gameplay scene is what made me get it, and its only €5 more, which as you said, ain't that bad

Retr0gamer

mystic86 wrote: »

You make your friend sound so important.

I spoke to 'Quantic Dream' too, asked some questions of my own.

But I certainly wouldn't hang on every claim they make during their publicity tour.

The proof will be in the pudding. Not that I had an issue with Heavy Rain, I loved that game.

He's not, just writes news and reviews for games and movies for a variety of publications which means he gets to interview these guys face to face.

I had loads of problems with Heavy Rain, most had to do with the poor quality of its writing so the fact that the guys at Quantic Dream are acknowledging this as a problem gives hope that they'll do something about it and therefore make a better game.

mystic86

Retr0gamer wrote: »

He's not, just writes news and reviews for games and movies for a variety of publications which means he gets to interview these guys face to face.

I had loads of problems with Heavy Rain, most had to do with the poor quality of its writing so the fact that the guys at Quantic Dream are acknowledging this as a problem gives hope that they'll do something about it and therefore make a better game.

I've been watching and reading lots of interviews, articles etc about this game and I went to a talk they gave in Dublin recently and not once have I heard them suggest that story writing was an issue for them, it comes across like they pride themselves on it.

They just seem to want to become more expansive in the settings and the reach of their stories and iterate on the emotional connections by the technology they are using on Page and Dafoe.

Retr0gamer

Well it wasn't the talk in Dublin that my friend met them, he interviewed them over in their development offices and got a tour. You can dictate how an interview goes where as a PR talk you just get what they want to tell you.

mystic86

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Well it wasn't the talk in Dublin that my friend met them, he interviewed them over in their development offices and got a tour. You can dictate how an interview goes where as a PR talk you just get what they want to tell you.

Surely admitting they saw a failing and have gone about addressing it is a good thing that you would want to tell people?

Apart from the stuff that I said in my previous post that they seemed to be saying.

Got a link to this interview or article?

Retr0gamer

Most of it was off the record, they're probably still probably obliged to handle their PR tightly. What my friend said is they were acknowledging there were problems with Heavy Rain. Here's what was published:

http://www.clickonline.com/games/uncut-interview--guillaume-de-fondaumiere-%28beyond-two-souls%29/17538/

http://www.clickonline.com/games/interview--david-cage-for-beyond-two-souls/17218/

http://www.clickonline.com/games/quantic-dream-studio-tour--in-pictures/17050/

http://www.clickonline.com/games/beyond-two-souls--hands-on-preview/17057/

C14N

It's good to hear that they took the criticism regarding the writing on board but I think stuff like that is bound to improve as the team get more experienced. Having the likes of Defoe and Page on board will probably help too, I can't imagine them wanting to be associated with a B-movie script like Heavy Rain had.

F1ngers

US extended trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCoM9qDrK_I

Pushtrak

C14N wrote: »

I'm very interested in this. Heavy Rain had some good ideas with so-so execution imo but I tend to let it off on a sort of "first attempt" kind of thing. Hopefully, this is a chance to refine some of the things that weren't so good about it and make a more compelling game.

I saw Heavy Rain as a somewhat poor expansion on Fahrenheit. I still have high hopes for Beyond, but I haven't been watching much on it. Want it to be new to me in the playing.

mystic86

Budget for this game revealed to be 20 million euro, 20% increase compared to Heavy Rain...

http://www.hardcoregamer.com/2013/09/21/beyond-two-souls-production-budget-revealed-to-be-27-million-dollars/56356/

C14N

mystic86 wrote: »

Budget for this game revealed to be 20 million euro, 20% increase compared to Heavy Rain...

http://www.hardcoregamer.com/2013/09/21/beyond-two-souls-production-budget-revealed-to-be-27-million-dollars/56356/

That doesn't actually sound like that much to me, not when it's hot on the heels of GTA 5 costing over 10 times that amount and when they managed to get two major Hollywood actors in lead roles.

mystic86

The demo for this game will be up on the store next week, on Wednesday 1st October.

For PS Plus users in the US, they can access that demo early - from today.

I'm not sure if PS Plus subscribers in the EU will get early access tomorrow with the store update or not.

BUT, for those who have a US PSN account (if you don't note that it's easily done) you can get immediate access to the demo by going to gamestop facebook page, liking the page, and entering email address:

https://www.facebook.com/GameStop?sk=app_174961479209942&app_data=submitted-1

Enjoy.

Retr0gamer

My friend has another interview with the developer:

http://clickonline.com/games/uncut-interview--guillaume-de-fondaumiere-on-the-release-of-beyond-two-souls/20244/

Retr0gamer

Apparently this is definitely getting censored in the EU due to violence. However it's also getting censored in the US for nudity. WTF?

I might hold out and see if there's an uncensored Korean version, they usually come in English, and get that from play asia.

richymcdermott

Its like the age rating on games dont matter anymore

Whats the point of it when germany and america dictates whats allowed or not. :mad:

tok9

Sounds like it's only 1 scene though which goes on for 5 -10 seconds worth of gameplay.

I'd be pretty surprised if it affected the story that much.

richymcdermott

Just finished the demo there

Its very good , engine they are using is amazing and further makes me wonder why we need next gen systems .

Only problems i have are i dunno what qte events i am suppose to do in what direction without a button displaying telling me so.

When it looks like shes moving left shes going right and when jumping over something but instinct is pressing up you are suppose to press down


Very confusing

Captain Chaos

richymcdermott wrote: »

Its like the age rating on games dont matter anymore

Whats the point of it when germany and america dictates whats allowed or not. :mad:

It's the developers, they want a 15 and 16 PEGI rating, but these scenes would make the game a PEGI 18 and they feel that will limit sales. If CD wanted to release an 18s rated game they could have it all in.

Retr0gamer

Captain Chaos wrote: »

It's the developers, they want a 15 and 16 PEGI rating, but these scenes would make the game a PEGI 18 and they feel that will limit sales. If CD wanted to release an 18s rated game they could have it all in.

It's definitely not the developers but the pencil pushing marketing guys that think it will generate a few extra sales.

Sabre0001

I wonder what constitutes "some more extreme instances of violence." - Link - Dammit, now I want to play THAT version...


I don't think a lower age rating will boost sales. Little Timmy would probably bleat in his mother's ear more if it was 18+! Then again, Germany is a little odd with its system and who knows what's going on with Australia where 18s games can still be banned.

COYVB

The problem with Oz is that they don't have a rating for games above 15s, so anything that doesn't make it for that rating either needs to be cut, or gets banned

Backfire

COYVB wrote: »

The problem with Oz is that they don't have a rating for games above 15s, so anything that doesn't make it for that rating either needs to be cut, or gets banned

Really? Thats strange to say the least. They'd need to wake up and revise their current age rating system.

Retr0gamer

Backfire wrote: »

Really? Thats strange to say the least. They'd need to wake up and revise their current age rating system.

It was stupid but the rating system has since been revised and they have 18+ rated games now.

I'm hoping maybe the Korean version of the game will be uncut, Korean versions are usually in English.

johnny_ultimate

I am fundamentally against censorship, but the US censorship can cut out some of the ridiculous and pointless gratuitous nudity that Quantic Dream seem to mistake for provocative and mature content, it might actually be a beneficial thing.

COYVB

Retr0gamer wrote: »

It was stupid but the rating system has since been revised and they have 18+ rated games now.

Just read that now actually, they implemented it in Jan this year... took their time!

mystic86

Brilliant.

Backfire

mystic86 wrote: »

Brilliant.

I am no genius but I am going to presume there is a bit of photo editing going on there

Still funny though.

mystic86

Review embargo doesn't lift until 4pm tomorrow, when the game will already be out in the shops a few hours in America... More often than not it's not a good sign when this happens :-(