How far are you into the Maths course?

Prodigious

I believe the following are all the chapters on our course. Are any gone or are any missing?

- Algebra x
- Trigonometry x
- Line, Circle x
- Differentiation x
- integration x
- Complex Numbers x
- Binomial theorem
- Financial Maths
- Sequences & Series
- Proof by Induction
- Probability
- Statistics

We've only done the ones with an x marked so I'd imagine we're behind? Teacher spends 80% of every class going over homework. :mad:
Does anyone know how many theorems we have to know, and which ones they are?

How far are ye on?

theidiots

Or you in 5th or 6th year? Higher or Ordinary?

Your basically fecked if your doing higher and thats all ye done.

Prodigious

6th, Higher.

Bollix. Thought as much. Grinds here I come :rolleyes: State of the education system.

Glee_GG

We're currently doing proof by induction and only have enlargements left after that which is only a tiny part of geometry. Stats and prob are going to take ye a good while to cover tbh, thats not great that ye have so much left to cover.

kevin12345

Have ye really that much left to do. :eek:

- Algebra x
- Trigonometry x
- Line, Circle x
- Differentiation x
- integration x
- Complex Numbers x
- Binomial theorem x
- Matrices
- Sequences & Series x
- Proof by Induction
- Probability x
- Statistics x

We've that much done and our teacher still thinks it will be a struggle to cover/fine tune everything by June.

borrch

Matrices aren't on the new course. At least thats one less to worry about

Indiego

- Algebra x
- Trigonometry x
- Line, Circle x
- Differentiation
- integration
- Complex Numbers
- Binomial theorem x
- Sequences & Series
- Proof by Induction
- Probability x
- Statistics

I'm in 5th year and we've done all this... looks like you have 1) a terrible teacher and 2) a lot of work to do, unfortunately

patakadarragh

We are finished and now revising. 6th yr, higher level.

HPMS

We only have geometry left to do. Paper one completely finished! And we've been revising as well, if we hadn't done so much revision we'd have been well finished by now! I'd say start learning stuff yourself just so you're not too far behind come May.:)

gemmalions

5th year, apparently we can answer all of paper one..... So halfway there? I'm being hopeful here

Prodigious

I think she's a good teacher but is too by the book. She has an obsession with checking homework which infuriates me. If you're in higher level maths you can do the homework or GTFO, you should want to be there. There are slower people in our class too that hold us back. Balls. I'll have to get grinds now. Sad state of affairs when capable students like myself and a few others have to get grinds just to complete the course, never mind revising! Gonna confront her on monday.

HPMS

Sorry for the double post but to answer your question there are only 3 theorems to be learned...I think they're numbers 11, 12 and 13 or maybe 12, 13 and 14. If you have active maths they're in there anyway!

Vito Corleone

What about financial maths?

yournerd

Algebra DONE
- Trigonometry DONE
- Line, Circle DONE
- Differentiation DONE
- integration DONE
- Complex Numbers
- Binomial theorem
- Matrices
- Sequences & Series DONe
- Proof by Induction
- Probability STARTED
- Statistics

**** we're behind aswell I think. And we done everything from the old books so I presume we have to go over the new project style questions.

YoursSincerely

probability and statistics are such long chapers and make up most of paper two, i can't believe ye don't have them done yet! confront your teacher thats so unfair! maybe your principal could oraganise for your teacher to give extra classes after school, a lot of schools are doing that now because the maths course is so long!

Ellenkc

We've got a bit of Functions and some Integration left to do. There's probably bits and pieces in other topics we need to do, but we should be done a week or two after Easter. I'm in a Pilot school though, so we've a lot less to do in all the strand 5 stuff. You'll be hard pushed to get that done, will she take ye for extra classes after school or during Easter at all?

theidiots

We worked on exam papers for the final 4 months of sixth year. Brought everyone up by multiple grades. Was always floating around D1 or C3 in honors maths and the work we did on the exam papers brought me up to a B.

bluejay14

Maths is a bit of a lost cause to me, I can do less and less in every chapter.

We've done everything for paper 2 so that's:
Probability
Statistics
Geometry
Trigonometry
Enlargements
Line
Circle
Constructions
Theorems

For paper 1 we've covered:
Algebra
Arithmetic
Financial Maths
Indices and Logs
Sequences and Series
Complex Numbers

Still left to do:
Differentiation
Integration
Proof by Induction
Length area volume
the really small chapter on Real Numbers

sganyfx

- Algebra x
- Trigonometry x
- Line, Circle x
- Differentiation x
- integration x
- Complex Numbers x
- Binomial theorem x
- Financial Maths x
- Sequences & Series x
- Proof by Induction x
- Probability x
- Statistics - Not far from finished

I love my math teacher

whiteandlight

To be fair to your teachers the project maths course is long/tedious and should not be finished at this stage of the year if taught using the correct/advised problem solving methods unless you have been doing extra classes.

Eurovisionmad

Methememb wrote: »

I believe the following are all the chapters on our course. Are any gone or are any missing?

- Algebra x
- Trigonometry x
- Line, Circle x
- Differentiation x
- integration x
- Complex Numbers x
- Binomial theorem
- Financial Maths
- Sequences & Series
- Proof by Induction
- Probability
- Statistics

We've only done the ones with an x marked so I'd imagine we're behind? Teacher spends 80% of every class going over homework. :mad:
Does anyone know how many theorems we have to know, and which ones they are?

How far are ye on?

Both Statistics and Probability are big chapters on their own! We almost spent 3 and a half to 4 months doing them altogether collectively!

We just have the Binomial Theorem, Financial Maths and Sequences and series to finish, and a few pieces here and there but the majority of our course is in the rear view mirror at this stage!

ahmdoda

dam man my teacher never checks the homework and i dont blame him!! we are mature enough for god sake to know what is good or what is bad for us and by not doing homework your harming no one but ur self! talk to that teacher!

Jade.

We have complex numbers and one other topic to do and then we are finished the course.

Jackobyte

Methememb wrote: »

6th, Higher.

Bollix. Thought as much. Grinds here I come :rolleyes: State of the education system.

We are finished bar for the proof of De Moivre's theorum by Induction and a few odds and ends.

Glee_GG wrote: »

We're currently doing proof by induction and only have enlargements left after that which is only a tiny part of geometry. Stats and prob are going to take ye a good while to cover tbh, thats not great that ye have so much left to cover.

Stats and Prob take a sizeable amount of time. Surprised a school didn't cover them before the mocks seeing as the topic is central to the new paper 2.

theidiots

If you don't do the homework for maths you may as well go back to pass. Teacher should realise the students are mature enough and advise them if needed to go back to pass after class tests or advise the parents

peekachoo

- Algebra x
- Trigonometry
- Line, Circle x
- Differentiation x
- integration x
- Complex Numbers x
- Binomial theorem x
- Financial Maths x
- Sequences & Series x
- Proof by Induction x
- Probability x
- Statistics x

didn't realize how much we have done until reading this! We didn't start the course until November last year because of the mix up with the book printing and were worried we wouldn't get it done!
To make up for time we do an extra hour after school on Wednesdays and use two study classes a week as extra maths.

Went into the mocks without geometry, trig and enlargements done. Got my results today and got 41%, absolutely delighted as I was convinced I failed!

It might be a good idea to suggest extra classes to your teacher though.

Monsieur Folie

Done almost all of paper one, just finishing off differentiation and then it's just integration to go with that.

With paper two we've covered trig, and most if not all of geometry, but we haven't touched probability or statistics. I'm worried now, have we time to properly cover integration, statistics and probability and brush up the rest of our topics by June? If not I might start skipping ahead and getting a bit of a head start on those chapters myself.

Chikablam

- Algebra x
- Trigonometry x
- Line, Circle x
- Differentiation x
- integration
- Complex Numbers x
- Binomial theorem
- Financial Maths
- Sequences & Series
- Proof by Induction
- Probability
- Statistics

Our teacher is very unreliable.
Thankfully, I'm getting grinds.
Really damn annoying, because I'm pretty good at maths, we just have so little covered

yournerd

well this thread is very motivating. goodbye A1.

yournerd

Anyone go to Leeson St for maths?

peekachoo

yournerd wrote: »

Anyone go to Leeson St for maths?

Don't know what area you're from but Limerick Tutorial College do fantastic Saturday classes!

yournerd

No Im south east. The fact that some of you are finished is quite worrying..

theidiots

How many people out of the amount of people in your school are doing honors maths. It was 15 out 110 when I was doing it. There was people well capable of doing it but said it took up too much time

yournerd

Theres like over 20!

yournerd

there was 4 last year !

peekachoo

There's 80ish in my year, 11 in my maths class! 3 of those failed mocks and possibly dropping! There's also a foundation class with 6 or 7

peekachoo

But the bonus points are definitely a factor. In 07 my sister was the only person in HL in her year!

Squidgy Black

All we have left is integration and complex numbers I think. I'm sure there's a few bits we have to go back over but it's not too much.

VincentLeB

Anyone who is suggesting that teachers shouldn't be correcting the homework are off their game. My maths teacher never leaves a maths sum uncorrected. She kills us if we don't remind her to correct something that she may have forgotten about (which happens very rarely, I'll admit).

Here are some statistics about my school (I won't bother mentioning the name, but if you really want to know, PM me):

— Best Maths student in Ireland something like six out of the past fifteen years. As far as I know, 2012 and 2011 both came from my school. Definitely 2011 anyway. All taught by my maths teacher, who "corrects the homework". In fact, most of what we do is correct homework.

— Featured in national newspapers about how we buck every trend about maths (I can link you to these which back up most of these statistics if you PM me)

— Munster Team Math Final 2013: both top teams were from my school
— Past ten years, excluding one year, my school has reached the final stages and won three times

— Junior Maths Competition 2012: 5 out of the top thirty came from my school, and two of those were placed first and third. No other school was featured more than once in the top thirty. (I could be slightly off, but two of the top three were definitely from my school, and there were at least two others in the top thirty.)

— Almost half the year sit higher level maths -- which is three times the national average (it's higher this year, but I don't know how many will drop down between now and then)

— Of those who sit higher level maths, more than 60% get an A. A third of those get an A1. The other ~40% get a B1 (except last year, one person got a C1 and another got a D3, but they just didn't work).

— My teacher has the nickname "the best maths teacher in Ireland" — it's not an official title, but she's well known enough in Cork that if you say that a lot of people have heard of her. We definitely have the highest maths results, and win all the maths competitions, so I think the title is justified.

Anyway, that's just my long-winded and admittedly highly annoying explanation as to why doing homework in class isn't a waste of time if the teacher does a good job of it.

Also, we do some Maths in fourth year, so we've been completely finished the course for four weeks. We also have two hours of extra classes during the week — all given free of charge.

Sometimes I love my school.

theidiots

VincentLeB wrote: »

Anyone who is suggesting that teachers shouldn't be correcting the homework are off their game. My maths teacher never leaves a maths sum uncorrected. She kills us if we don't remind her to correct something that she may have forgotten about (which happens very rarely, I'll admit).

Here are some statistics about my school (I won't bother mentioning the name, but if you really want to know, PM me):

— Best Maths student in Ireland something like six out of the past fifteen years. As far as I know, 2012 and 2011 both came from my school. Definitely 2011 anyway. All taught by my maths teacher, who "corrects the homework". In fact, most of what we do is correct homework.

— Featured in national newspapers about how we buck every trend about maths (I can link you to these which back up most of these statistics if you PM me)

— Munster Team Math Final 2013: both top teams were from my school
— Past ten years, excluding one year, my school has reached the final stages and won three times

— Junior Maths Competition 2012: 5 out of the top thirty came from my school, and two of those were placed first and third. No other school was featured more than once in the top thirty. (I could be slightly off, but two of the top three were definitely from my school, and there were at least two others in the top thirty.)

— Almost half the year sit higher level maths -- which is three times the national average (it's higher this year, but I don't know how many will drop down between now and then)

— Of those who sit higher level maths, more than 60% get an A. A third of those get an A1. The other ~40% get a B1 (except last year, one person got a C1 and another got a D3, but they just didn't work).

— My teacher has the nickname "the best maths teacher in Ireland" — it's not an official title, but she's well known enough in Cork that if you say that a lot of people have heard of her. We definitely have the highest maths results, and win all the maths competitions, so I think the title is justified.

Anyway, that's just my long-winded and admittedly highly annoying explanation as to why doing homework in class isn't a waste of time if the teacher does a good job of it.

Also, we do some Maths in fourth year, so we've been completely finished the course for four weeks. We also have two hours of extra classes during the week — all given free of charge.

Sometimes I love my school.

Is it a public cool? Any good maths teacher corrects homework and gives extra classes but yours seems like its A1, Premiership, Grand slam teacher

Vito Corleone

VincentLeB wrote: »

My teacher has the nickname "the best maths teacher in Ireland"

That's a very unimaginative nickname.

Jackobyte

Methememb wrote: »

I think she's a good teacher but is too by the book. She has an obsession with checking homework which infuriates me. If you're in higher level maths you can do the homework or GTFO, you should want to be there. There are slower people in our class too that hold us back. Balls. I'll have to get grinds now. Sad state of affairs when capable students like myself and a few others have to get grinds just to complete the course, never mind revising! Gonna confront her on monday.

I'd be careful confronting her. If you are to do it, at least in a non aggressive, concerned way, i.e., you noticed that there were still quite a few topics still to cover and were worried that you might be behind. You still have to spend the next 3 months in her class, and it'll be her who would be looking over your paper with you if you need a recheck. You're going to want her on you side, so don't do anything too brusque that may cause a falling out.

Student007

half way through book 2

Prodigious

Our teacher is going to do some extra classes with us. Our first one was this week. We spent 60 minutes doing questions (which should be done at home) and 10 minutes teaching new material. Ridiculous.

Squidgy Black

You can't just skip over the homework, it has to be done out to show people HOW to do it, there's always going to be someone who couldn't get it out or did it incorrectly but hasn't even realised, it's project maths.

Maybe just say it to him/her that you're concerned that you're not going to get through the course in time, and could they spend a little less time on homework. Skipping homework altogether would be the wrong decision in my opinion.

Jade.

My teacher could spend the whole class sometimes correcting one sum because she would keep explaining and going over it until everyone understands and she never ever skips a question in the book and we're practically nearly done the course. Don't understand how people think the homework shouldn't be corrected.

whiteandlight

I suspect that you are all comparing different situation. How many periods a week do those who have finished the course have? How many of you have attended classes put on for free by your teacher?
We have 6 periods a week of maths, I know another VEC school down the road who has 8. Over the course of two years that is a lot of extra time. Our classes tend to be 35 minute, some schools would be 40.

There is a huge discrepancy between the time allocated in schools. Some have the minimum recommended by the department, others recognise that these are ridiculously low and have provision for that in the timetable. Other teachers have the time to give extra voluntary unpaid classes to students, some may not

Glitt_123

is the binomial theoram not gone off the course?

Eurovisionmad

Glitt_123 wrote: »

is the binomial theoram not gone off the course?

Apparently there was *another* syllabus *clarification*

BrownBear11

Eurovisionmad wrote: »

Apparently there was *another* syllabus *clarification*

Link?

Eurovisionmad

BrownBear11 wrote: »

Link?

Actually scratch what I just said, I'm all wrong I was thinking of something else, I think she mentioned recently that it was off the course!