Urea

Dunedin

anyone shake any urea yet.

Temp a bit cool yet with no sign of a rise worth talking about.

Or do you gamble and have it on allowing that it will take a couple of weeks to kick in and the temp might rise a bit by then............

Grecco

Temperatures are set to rise by next mid week. Could grease the driveshaft on the spreader till then :P

Dunedin

Grecco wrote: »

Temperatures are set to rise by next mid week. Could grease the driveshaft on the spreader till then :P


FURTHER OUTLOOK ... Eventually the Atlantic circulation will return and it may not be very mild at that point either, so a sleety or even wintry mix is possible although it seems more likely to be mostly rain in the south and west (by the end of next week), as southeast to east winds become stronger, reaching perhaps 50-70 km/hr with temperatures in the 5-8 C range -- raw but not that unusual. There are signs of another cold spell beyond the weekend of 9-10 March, but it's too far off to have much confidence about it yet.

not according to Boards MT Cran - don't put too much grease on it yet!!...... I guess anything is better than the rain:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Bodacious

i went yesterday with a light shake of urea.. took a gamble!:D

Injuryprone

Weather meant to break around next Tuesday, from what I've heard

mahoney_j

My advice get it out and the sooner the better,Also as its now wel tomorrow anyway march 1 go with a full bag to the acre

Dunedin

mahoney_j wrote: »

My advice get it out and the sooner the better,Also as its now wel tomorrow anyway march 1 go with a full bag to the acre

going to go with bag to teh acre on sat. temps supposed to rise next week so it's time now.

Insp. Harry Callahan

Dont spread urea on bare pastures, only on fields where there is a bit of cover otherwise it will do no good

Bactidiaryl

Urea needs moisture. If it dosent get it it will go to the sky.

Tipperary Iron

Hi injuryprone, I am new to boards and would like to contact you about a dodgy adverts user. I know I am in the wrong place, help??

DMAXMAN

Bactidiaryl wrote: »

Urea needs moisture. If it dosent get it it will go to the sky.

there is more than enough moisture in/on the ground at hte moment. its a combination of temperature and dryness that affects urea. i spread fert 2 weeks ago and considered it late. 3 dry dats and the fert is taken up by the grass roots and will sit in the plant ready for use when growth arrives. fert take approx 3 weeks after application to really get growth going.

oooge1

went with a bag to the acre yesterday on the milking platform..so will sit back relax and let mother nature do her bit..:rolleyes:

delaval

If you kneel on ground and your knees get wet you can spread urea

f140

i put out a pallet of it there today and will put out another pallet tomorrow.

Bactidiaryl

You should kneel on the ground and pray.

Dunedin

is there any urea product that contains Sulphur?

kevthegaff

are the temps a bit low still to be spreading, even the forecasted 9-10 degree were expecting later in the week are a bit low?

49801

kevthegaff wrote: »

are the temps a bit low still to be spreading, even the forecasted 9-10 degree were expecting later in the week are a bit low?

10 day delay with urea after spreading anyway
Sorry I did not get it out on Sat but was up the walls so could not be helped

Pharaoh1

Checked the soil temp and it read 6.5 deg C so ok to go with a little bag fert.

Teagasce advisor was out and advised against Urea so got a few bags of Pasture Sward to spread tomorrow on a bit of very hungry looking ground that was reseeded last spring and got about 3 days grazing last year.

severeoversteer

Pharaoh1 wrote: »

Checked the soil temp and it read 6.5 deg C so ok to go with a little bag fert.

Teagasce advisor was out and advised against Urea so got a few bags of Pasture Sward to spread tomorrow on a bit of very hungry looking ground that was reseeded last spring and got about 3 days grazing last year.

Why not urea ? Too dry and cold maybe, hopefully will be ok end of this week as ive stuff in the yard

F.D

hoping to spread Urea aswell, i presume its prilled, i only have experience of spreading granular, will the wagtail throw it as wide or is there spreading issues i should look out for

1chippy

went with3/4 a bag to the acre across a few fields this evening. first time using it so fingers crossed.

freedominacup

All of the grazed ground here is after getting 2k gallons of pig slurry/acre will continue with this for the first rotation. Around 20 acres got 2k of cattle slurry before grazing rest had covers that were too strong for slurry. We might put 50kg of urea on the ground destined for grazing at the end of the month.

mahoney_j

Dunedin wrote: »

is there any urea product that contains Sulphur?

Theres loads
1 Richland 23 2.5 5 and 5% sulpher and trace elemrnts.Its quite good stuff too
2 sulfa can
3 asn
4 sweetgrass

severeoversteer

would any one advise how long to wait to put out lime after slurry ? few weeks ? a month? only 1.5 tonne an acre needed at most

Good loser

severeoversteer wrote: »

would any one advise how long to wait to put out lime after slurry ? few weeks ? a month? only 1.5 tonne an acre needed at most

I'd say no waiting needed.

delaval

F.D wrote: »

hoping to spread Urea aswell, i presume its prilled, i only have experience of spreading granular, will the wagtail throw it as wide or is there spreading issues i should look out for

we only spread prilled here with Amazone twin disc prefer to gran sreads just as wide and covers ground very well

bob charles

mahoney_j wrote: »

Theres loads
1 Richland 23 2.5 5 and 5% sulpher and trace elemrnts.Its quite good stuff too
2 sulfa can
3 asn
4 sweetgrass

none of them are UREA based which was the question asked, Dont think there is any product on the Irish market with straight Urea and S

case 5150

can u say apply half bag of urea today and apply a bag of 0-7-30 say in a week time to a paddock

delaval

case 5150 wrote: »

can u say apply half bag of urea today and apply a bag of 0-7-30 say in a week time to a paddock

No prob. Only restriction of fert is lime and urea

F.D

delaval wrote: »

we only spread prilled here with Amazone twin disc prefer to gran sreads just as wide and covers ground very well

Thanks for the info, as it turns out i think our merchant has it in granular form so i'll stick with that

delaval

F.D wrote: »

Thanks for the info, as it turns out i think our merchant has it in granular form so i'll stick with that

Prilled cheaper!!!!

bob charles

delaval wrote: »

Prilled cheaper!!!!

Is it still €15 a ton cheaper, havnt used it in a good few years due to spread pattern issues. Last time I used it I swore never again. Think my spreader only spreads prilled to 12m where as can go 18m with gran

delaval

Yea Bob between 10-15 cheaper. We spread gran at 22m and prill at 20 getting on fine

dar31

delaval wrote: »

Yea Bob between 10-15 cheaper. We spread gran at 22m and prill at 20 getting on fine

do you use gps at them distances or dose contractor do it.

delaval

dar31 wrote: »

do you use gps at them distances or dose contractor do it.

We do it ourselves and GPS used

bob charles

delaval wrote: »

Yea Bob between 10-15 cheaper. We spread gran at 22m and prill at 20 getting on fine

what spreader, Im sick of my amazone piece of crap

delaval

bob charles wrote: »

what spreader, Im sick of my amazone piece of crap

We use an Amazone trailed spreader, well it's a mounted spreader on a bogey not sure of model but holds 3 tonne of fert 2.25 urea.

1chippy

This being my first year spreading urea. It may sound stupid but will it be wasted with the amount of rain. I know it needs moisture and all but is it a bit rough on it?

delaval

Chippy, when did you spread?

1chippy

delaval wrote: »

Chippy, when did you spread?

Monday and tuesday

delaval

1chippy wrote: »

Monday and tuesday

Absolutly nothing to worry about.:):)

Bactidiaryl

My shaggin knees are soaking. ðŸ˜

49801

spread 25kg/acre of urea last two days

delaval

49801 wrote: »

spread 25kg/acre of urea last two days

I that half a bag per acre or 25kgs N/acre

49801

49801 wrote: »

spread 25kg/acre of urea last two days

delaval wrote: »

I that half a bag per acre or 25kgs N/acre

25kg of product so 46% of that comes to 11.5 units

Farmer Pudsey

It is often expressed in units so you spread half of 46 so 23 units/acre.

49801

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

It is often expressed in units so you spread half of 46 so 23 units/acre.

Sure about that?
Urea is 46%

So 100kg is 46units
50kg is 23units
25kg is 11.5units

But maybe I've made a balls of that calc.

freedominacup

49801 wrote: »

Sure about that?
Urea is 46%

So 100kg is 46units
50kg is 23units
25kg is 11.5units

But maybe I've made a balls of that calc.

Yup because 100kgs of urea contains 46kgs of N and 92 units of urea.
To get from units/acre to kgs/ha you multiply units/acre by 1.25.
So 1 bag urea (46unitsN)/acre is equal to 57.5 kgsN/ha

Injuryprone

The whole 'units' measure comes from the use of the cwt bag.

A 1 cwt bag of urea contains 46 units of N, a 1 cwt bag of CAN contains 27 units of N.

Everything is worked off this base.
100kg is 2cwt bags, 25kg is 1/2 a bag etc.

F.D

still have urea sitting on a trailer, and with the weather thats in it i'm guessing it will be a complete waste of time spreading it, or am i wrong, seems to cold and with that harsh wind not much growth either
has anyone ditched there plans to put out urea and gone back to can other compounds