How is your culture being erased?

old hippy

Apparently, if you read the more insistent daily papers or listen to some of the louder voices on the wireless - Irish culture is being eroded by immigration.

Do you agree with this and if so, how is it directly affecting you?

Valetta

old hippy wrote: »

Apparently, if you read the more insistent daily papers or listen to some of the louder voices on the wireless - Irish culture is being eroded by immigration.

Do you agree with this and if so, how is it directly affecting you?

Any examples?

"Irish culture" is a very general term.

Seachmall

My culture isn't being erased. It's evolving, expanding and progressing.

syklops

Immigration or Emigration?

Birneybau

The longer I am out of school, the more my grasp of the Irish language seeps from my brain.

Sin E.

Oh yeah, I blame the immagents.

hyperborean

What culture can be described as specifically Irish?

crockholm

You're like a dog with a bone OP

Pilotdude5

I like globalisation and hope to contribute to it for the rest of my career.

Duggy747

Oh no, not my God-fearing, gay-hating culture!!

Seedy Arling

Canesten.

gobnaitolunacy

old hippy wrote: »

Apparently, if you read the more insistent daily papers

A polite way of saying 'tabloid rags/toilet paper'?

MomijiHime

It hasn't affected me. I quite like multiculturalism

Chips Lovell

I don't recall hearing anyone recently claiming our culture is being erased by immigration.

Examples?

I had to google what a wireless was.

sesswhat

The locals now find they don't have it all their own way when it comes to the traditional pig-ignorant parking outside the school.

xLexie

They're trying to get us all into houses and have made it illegal for us to camp alongside the road, boss

The Barefoot Pizza Thief

Are you expecting examples in "red crayon" here also?

ejmaztec

The Barefoot Pizza Thief wrote: »

Are you expecting examples in "red crayon" here also?

No, a blood sweat and tears cocktail on the end of a quill is the way these things operate.

bbam

Seachmall wrote: »

My culture isn't being erased. It's evolving, expanding and progressing.

This is it in a nutshell.
Far too often people think of culture as a snapshot of history, something that must remain unchanged and repeated for ever more.
I see it much more as an evolution, I mark certain important events but expect them to become less important as new experiences come into my life.
Life is for living for yourself, not trying to make it into some sort of historic re enactment, and having no tolerance for anyone who won't look through your rose tinted glasses.

wp_rathead

Our culture? Of locking up children, women and the disabiled and mental illl into horific institutes under the collar of the catholic church and a population who held ignorant, bigotted mindsets..
Ya, I think I can live with a bit of that culture erasing

Knasher

Irish culture is whatever the people of Ireland say it is. By which I mean people who live and raise children here, regardless of what nationality they, or their parents were. Culture changes over time and the culture of modern Ireland is no more or less Irish than the culture of Catholic Ireland, or before that Pagan Ireland or Viking Ireland or Celtic Ireland. It is just newer.

If people truly feel that the epitome of Irish culture is (probably) whatever it was during their childhood. They are free to do their best to preserve it. Some groups have even been quite successful at it, the Amish for example. Just don't expect the rest of us to live in the past with you.

dttq

old hippy wrote: »

Apparently, if you read the more insistent daily papers or listen to some of the louder voices on the wireless - Irish culture is being eroded by immigration.

Do you agree with this and if so, how is it directly affecting you?

Ironically by the likes of the Daily Mail with a track record and mile long portfolio in paddy bashing and punch magazine like caricatures of the Irish. Any sh!te will do even if it contradicts previous articles, to sell a newspaper for the likes of the Mail.

El Horseboxo

As a Latino from the US. Immigration is increasing my culture. More wetbacks please.

Pherekydes

ejmaztec wrote: »

No, a blood sweat and tears cocktail on the end of a quill is the way these things operate.

Blood, Sweat and Tears are American.

I denounce you to the monocultural secret police! Please stay where you are and the Gestapo will be along to arrest you momentarily.

I also must denounce myself: I went to see the Bolshoi.

Sky King

How is your culture being erased?

The guards are catching up on me for a litany of offences, the scrap metal man no longer deals in cash (now the bastard wants a PPS number), the doo gooders are on to me for animal abuse an I'm being forced to educate me kids boss.

pickarooney

I'm not allowed use Ogham on my number plates any more

CreepingDeath

Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »

I don't recall hearing anyone recently claiming our culture is being erased by immigration.

Examples?

Maybe the loss of traditional Irish names, Vladimir ?

iDave

I cant say Bangarda anymore

old hippy

crockholm wrote: »

You're like a dog with a bone OP

That's exactly what I'm like, crockholm. Because whenever someone claims that immigration is affecting Ireland's culture - I always ask how it's affecting them, directly. I've never once had a straight answer from the oppressed masses yet

Woof!

Nodin

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Maybe the loss of traditional Irish names, Vladimir ?

....they aren't being replaced with Eastern European ones though, are they?

CreepingDeath

old hippy wrote: »

That's exactly what I'm like, crockholm. Because whenever someone claims that immigration is affecting Ireland's culture - I always ask how it's affecting them, directly. I've never once had a straight answer from the oppressed masses yet

Indirectly it affects our national social welfare, housing and education bills.
So we've all less money to drink.

sesswhat

old hippy wrote: »

That's exactly what I'm like, crockholm. Because whenever someone claims that immigration is affecting Ireland's culture - I always ask how it's affecting them, directly. I've never once had a straight answer from the oppressed masses yet

Woof!

It's already over 30 posts. How many fcuking straight answers do you want?

Death and Taxes

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Maybe the loss of traditional Irish names, Vladimir ?

Fashions in names change and people have naturally moved on from padraighín and Bridgit!
Most famous Irish people dont or didn't even have distinctly Irish names.

Morag

Lollers

Seriously none of these people must be aware of the fact we have been 'invaded' time and time again, new people come here and settle and get absorbed, happened to the Celts, the Milseans, the Vikings, the Normans, tis nothing new.

pickarooney

Morag wrote: »

Lollers

Seriously none of these people must be aware of the fact we have been 'invaded' time and time again, new people come here and settle and get absorbed, happened to the Celts, the Milseans, the Vikings, the Normans, tis nothing new.

Ireland was once occupied by sweets?

redfacedbear

I can now get a decent coffee. Irish culture seemed to demand truly awful 'coffee' until 5/10 years ago - I'm glad that's gone

oldyouth

Has anyone noticed how the majority of immigrants are foreigners?????

Nodin

oldyouth wrote: »

Has anyone noticed how the majority of immigrants are foreigners?????

I have. They have accents too.

Morag

pickarooney wrote: »

Ireland was once occupied by sweets?

Opps Milesian

http://www.timelessmyths.com/celtic/milesianhouse.html

old hippy

sesswhat wrote: »

It's already over 30 posts. How many fcuking straight answers do you want?

Sigh.

Because whenever someone claims that immigration is affecting Ireland's culture - I always ask how it's affecting them, directly. I've never once had a straight answer from those that claim immigration is having an affect on our culture as to what exactly affects them and how.

sesswhat

So. Have. You. Had. One. Now?

Hoop66

sesswhat wrote: »

So. Have. You. Had. One. Now?

Not from the posters that OP's referring to, no.

I'd like to stake my own claim to erasing/diluting Irish culture if I may?

I've trained the wife to shout "Barnet!" at anyone with an out of order haircut.

You'll all be doing it tomorrow.

jester77

My culture seems to be thriving, the Irish bars I pass seem to live up to their stereotype.

old hippy

sesswhat wrote: »

So. Have. You. Had. One. Now?

Sigh.

I've never once had a straight answer from those that claim immigration is having an affect on our culture as to what exactly affects them and how.

Do. You. Follow?

crockholm

Morag wrote: »

Lollers

Seriously none of these people must be aware of the fact we have been 'invaded' time and time again, new people come here and settle and get absorbed, happened to the Celts, the Milseans, the Vikings, the Normans, tis nothing new.

Perhaps you might find the odd bit of strife/murder/rape and slavery in between those influxes. Though it would have been funny to see a "clonmacnoice festival of viking culture "attended by really really old hippies

For Forks Sake

Morag wrote: »

Lollers

A shiny new donkey to the first person to erase this sort of cultural terminology...

Stark

I miss Barry's tea and casual racism.

Bipolar Joe

I don't think immigrants are screwing up our culture at all, a bit of diversity is good. The Government seems to be doing a pretty sterling job of fucking it up, though.

Latchy

old hippy wrote: »

Apparently, if you read the more insistent daily papers or listen to some of the louder voices on the wireless - Irish culture is being eroded by immigration.

Considering Irish Immigrants take their culture with them everywhere they go in the world ie, singing Celtic folk songs, drinking Guinness ,wearing GAA sweaters...quoting Fr Ted at the drop of a hat :pac: it shouldn't be a problem to keep it up to scratch at home .

A common complaint of many English is that England is rapidly loosing it's cultural identity due to the influx over the years of other nationalities, cultures and religions but in many cases , it's just older natives looking back through rose tinted glasses of summer evenings ,driving along leafy country English lanes ,when it was a predominantly a white Anglo Saxon race that never will be again .

Sarky

redfacedbear wrote: »

I can now get a decent coffee. Irish culture seemed to demand truly awful 'coffee' until 5/10 years ago - I'm glad that's gone

Christ, yes. It was only maybe 3-4 years ago that my parents still thought instant coffee was the way to go.

Good coffee, various oriental restaurants that do more than sweet and sour chickenballs, new musical beats, scales and melodies, sushi, new fashions, new words for the language, those awesome little Czech/Polish/Korean shops with all their fascinating little odds and ends, and a whole load of ammunition for comedians in the shouty proles who rant about our disappearing culture.

If anything erased Irish culture, it was every government since the foundation of the state doing a piss-poor job at encouraging use of the language and all but covering up the actually interesting historical stuff about Celts and Vikings and blood, sex and death. It was miserable embittered hack writers like padraic o chonaire (sp? Don't care enough to spell check him) ranting about how everything was sh*t and how their misfortunes were someone else's fault.

Culture that doesn't evolve dies. You either embrace the changes, or you die off alongside the discarded bits like terrible coffee and bacon&cabbage for dinner every night. My culture isn't being erased, it's changing constantly as I get exposed to new ideas, tastes, sounds and smells.

sesswhat

old hippy wrote: »

Sigh.

I've never once had a straight answer from those that claim immigration is having an affect on our culture as to what exactly affects them and how.

Do. You. Follow?

You already stated the reason for the quest.

I am only questioning if it will ever reach a conclusion. How likely is it that this thread will yield an answer to your satisfaction?

A few people have already outlined how their culture is changing for the better as a result of immigration. Were they not straight answers?