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Program to maintain size what rep ranges ?

  • 26-02-2013 2:25pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭


    I have been doing the Y3T program( Week 1 heavy 6-8 reps Week 2 superset 12-15 reps Week 3 drops sets and rest pause mental amt of reps) for the last few months and really like the variety and results but mid-July I’ll be hoping to complete a Half Iron Man.
    I don’t want to get any bigger before the event and losing some size wouldn’t annoy me that much but I am looking for a good maintenance type program.

    Weeks training involves
    2 runs
    3 swims
    3 gym/weight sessions
    Commute to work @10km each way and 50-80km bike on weekend

    Stats are
    Weight 79kg - will drop a bit before July
    BF 10.5% - aiming to get to single figure
    Height 175cm

    Diet is around 3000 cals a day according to my fitness pal , with a 25/25/50 split to carbs/fats/protein – I have upped the carbs slightly in last week or two as the cardio above is increasing.

    Essentially Im confused about the rep ranges
    6-8 = strength
    8-15 = Growth
    So where would maintain come in ?

    Im aware that my shape wouldnt be typical Tri but I am not aiming to win the even just complete it to best of my ability


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    I thought the general guide for rep ranges was the other way round from the way you have?
    For strength I generally do the heaviest weight I can for as many reps as I can, just before failue.
    Size would be small amounts of reps at heavy weight?
    Burning fat is high amount of reps at medium weight?

    This is just what I thought.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,603 ✭✭✭Scuba Ste


    Zombienosh wrote: »
    I thought the general guide for rep ranges was the other way round from the way you have?
    For strength I generally do the heaviest weight I can for as many reps as I can, just before failue.
    Size would be small amounts of reps at heavy weight?
    Burning fat is high amount of reps at medium weight?

    This is just what I thought.

    I'm gonna say that's completely wrong. How can you lift the heaviest weight you can for as many reps as possible? If you get 10+ reps it's obviously not the heaviest you can lift.

    Generally 1-5 reps for strength; 8-12 for size, with some overlap in between.
    And burning fat? Eating less.

    OP I'd just go for 2-3 sets in the 5-8 rep range. If you're changing your training focus you're going to lose some size.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    Well I said thats what I thought, because as usual everyone will probably have different opinions.
    so 8 - 12 for size, what would over 12 be then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,468 ✭✭✭DylanJM


    Zombienosh wrote: »
    Well I said thats what I thought, because as usual everyone will probably have different opinions.
    so 8 - 12 for size, what would over 12 be then?

    Very high rep ranges will develop endurance.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    DylanJM wrote: »
    Very high rep ranges will develop endurance.

    What kind of endurance?

    How many steps does it take to cover 5km?

    Will a tiny % of that when lifting really develop endurance?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    So combing high weights with high rep ranges building str/endurance?
    I don't really pay too much attention to rep range I don't see it as crucial, I always seem to float around the 10 area. because 10 sounds nice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,603 ✭✭✭Scuba Ste


    Zombienosh wrote: »
    So combing high weights with high rep ranges building str/endurance?
    I don't really pay too much attention to rep range I don't see it as crucial, I always seem to float around the 10 area. because 10 sounds nice.

    I don't know if there's a terminology problem but again how can you lift high weight (eg. 1-5rm) for high reps, 10+, it doesn't make sense.

    I don't think rep range is that important unless your training specifically for max strength, eg. oly or PL

    Over 12 reps? Character building.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    what I mean is the heaviest weight you can lift and just about make it to about 8-10 reps.
    Maybe i'll try increasing weight and lowering reps and see what the craic is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,468 ✭✭✭DylanJM


    Hanley wrote: »
    What kind of endurance?

    How many steps does it take to cover 5km?

    Will a tiny % of that when lifting really develop endurance?

    I probably wasn't clear enough in my post, I meant muscular endurance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭Dave 101


    10reps in 40 seconds


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 778 ✭✭✭POSSY


    MY personal take on this (due to a trainer I use to speak with in a gym I used in the states a couple summers back) is.

    Strength: 3x3
    Power: 5x5
    Aesthetic: 5 x 8-12.

    Just my opinion, and I'm sure this is one area where 100% agreement may be hard to come by. Just my 0.02euro


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,902 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    DylanJM wrote: »

    I probably wasn't clear enough in my post, I meant muscular endurance.
    Muscular endurance??
    As opposed to which kind of physical endurance exactly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,468 ✭✭✭DylanJM


    Mellor wrote: »
    Muscular endurance??
    As opposed to which kind of physical endurance exactly?

    I don't know, I thought somebody might mistake it for aerobic endurance/capacity.

    Is there something wrong about my original statement? From what I've read doing high rep (15+) sets will improve muscular endurance. The improvement would come from increased pain threshold and the improvement in the muscles ability to contract while fatigued.

    Is this incorrect?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    DylanJM wrote: »
    I don't know, I thought somebody might mistake it for aerobic endurance/capacity.

    Is there something wrong about my original statement? From what I've read doing high rep (15+) sets will improve muscular endurance. The improvement would come from increased pain threshold and the improvement in the muscles ability to contract while fatigued.

    Is this incorrect?

    Yes and no.

    What is the muscular endurance trained while doing sets of 15 used for outside of getting good at high rep sets?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭dario28


    Im probably more cunfused now !


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    dario28 wrote: »
    Im probably more cunfused now !

    80-90% of max for 3-5 sets of 1-5 reps on the big compound lifts 2-3x per week.

    Intensity will allow you to maintain size while not having negative effects on recovery for tri training.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭dario28


    Hanley wrote: »
    80-90% of max for 3-5 sets of 1-5 reps on the big compound lifts 2-3x per week.

    Intensity will allow you to maintain size while not having negative effects on recovery for tri training.


    Nice one - and I presume as many reps as possible for the guns.:D

    "You have your ubulus muscle that connects to the upper dorsinus.
    It's boring,but it's part of my life.
    Just watch out for the guns.
    They'll get you."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 778 ✭✭✭POSSY


    dario28 wrote: »
    Nice one - and I presume as many reps as possible for the guns.:D

    "You have your ubulus muscle that connects to the upper dorsinus.
    It's boring,but it's part of my life.
    Just watch out for the guns.
    They'll get you."

    To see big gun results don't forget to keep up a good diet of steak, waffles, french fries and, of course, scotch.


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