Buying a GTI Golf

techguy

Hey All,

You may have read my thread. And after this thread you may be wondering will I ever make my mind up? :pac:

Well to cut a long story short. After many people advising against the Peugeot and not being able to find a suitable one with a non questionable history, i've decided to go back to the GTI Golf, this time for real.

My main query here is about the current market value. I've seen a few decent ones that seem highly priced, only reason I can see is the low mileage, which is difficult to verify.

Ideally, I would like a leather, DSG version. I'd like 2008 but would settle for lower.

I've seen a few decent ones but seem priced a little high.

Examples here, here and here.

In my opinion these are priced just too high. Over the past few months i've seen a few gems come and go very quickly for a grand or too less. I remember two specifically, and they were dealers too.

What do you guys think I should be paying?

Also, i'm two mind as to whether I should go for an older 05/06 example, for considerably less. What are the caveats on this approach?

Also, when does the timing belt have to get done on these?

Cheers

robertxxx

Great car, I would go for the first one, but 3 door will have to suit.

Supergurrier

I don't care if it runs on fairydust and kittens come out of the exhaust €14,000 for a 6 year old Hot hatch is lunacy

Buy this and tax and insure it for 4 years with the change

shooter88

Supergurrier wrote: »

I don't care if it runs on fairydust and kittens come out of the exhaust €14,000 for a 6 year old Hot hatch is lunacy

Buy this and tax and insure it for 4 years with the change

Real head Turner gotta love the orange,golf is to overpriced and boring

Supergurrier

Radio off

Window down

5,500rpm

sk8board

I've owned a mark v with dsg, leather and climate control. Definitely find one with those three things - it's the only 3 options you'll definitely want.

The prices above seem like lunacy. I sold an 06 in march 12 (which was used at VAG shows with a massive spec and finish and low miles) for 10k. 14k the same car is nuts

Supergurrier

Leather and DSG is what i wanted too until i bought a different car, im sure it's alot more refined than most but as i said above €14,000 for a 6 year old 2 generations old Hot hatch is madness

sk8board

The timing chain is 6 years or 120k miles if memory serves. I had to do it in order to sell mine. the service intervals are all on the Internet.
The MOST IMPORTANT one is to ensure the dsg oil change was done at 40k miles. It shows the car was well looked after too.

Most if not all the ones you're looking at will be 40k+ on the clock - so this should be the first question you ask over the phone. I'd be saying goodbye to anyone who doesn't have it done or fobs you off

techguy

Supergurrier wrote: »

I don't care if it runs on fairydust and kittens come out of the exhaust €14,000 for a 6 year old Hot hatch is lunacy

Buy this and tax and insure it for 4 years with the change

That's what I was thinking.. I guess they think they can command those prices for the low mileage, but that only goes so far.

I must say that the ST is an interesting alternative, is the insurance in the same range do you know?

sk8board wrote: »

I've owned a mark v with dsg, leather and climate control. Definitely find one with those three things - it's the only 3 options you'll definitely want.

The prices above seem like lunacy. I sold an 06 in march 12 (which was used at VAG shows with a massive spec and finish and low miles) for 10k. 14k the same car is nuts

Jeez, that's pretty good. I'd be more comfortable spending that kind of money to be honest.

I'm insisting on leather and climate, but not sure about the DSG. I've always driven manual so not sure i'd miss it. There's not much on Carzone at the moment. I must check out done deal.

EDIT:

Here's one i've been looking at. I like the colour and it's leather/DSG/climate.

The picture show well out of date tax/nct. Is this worrying or meaningless as they are old photos probably just on the market for a while?

bazz26

Has that last GTi been on sale for nearly 2 years? It says in the advert that it is taxed until June 2011.

Supergurrier

Insurance quotes i got @ 29 with 5 years no claims were exact same from 123.ie for the ST/GTI

Tbh ST prices have about bottomed out atm where GTI prices are at a premium

kdevitt

The prices seem all over the place with them to be honest - theres 05 ones ranging from 4.5k to close on 10k on donedeal. On the lookout for a 5 door, manual, with climate and leather myself - not too many decent spec ones out there, so might be part of the reason why they're commanding a premium.

TestTransmission

Supergurrier wrote: »

Radio off

Window down

5,500rpm

Radio blaring

Roof down

9,000rpm

I win. :pac:

Henry Ford III

Supergurrier wrote: »

I don't care if it runs on fairydust and kittens come out of the exhaust €14,000 for a 6 year old Hot hatch is lunacy

Buy this and tax and insure it for 4 years with the change

Looks well, but that paint is a bit...erm...lairy for everday for me anyhow.

The orange Ford badges are awful too.

Decent value.

techguy

I just called the 3rd ad that appeared to be two years old.

He laughed and said it was sold long ago.

It appears Carzone are auto updating adverts with their new hold till sold policy.

sk8board

Im a geek, but i just loved The dsg. Exhaust makes a lovely pop when change up too

It was difficult to enjoy it on country roads, which was v rare for me. Motorway and street it's brilliant
I changed to a steptronic BMW, but even that setup is no match for the exactness of the dsg.
I haven't heard of any reliability issues with the older mkv's dsg

techguy

I think i'll take this one for a drive at the weekend.

Perfect, except for the lack of leather

robertxxx

Make sure you take somebody who knows about car with you as it's know as cowboy land out in the Wild West.

techguy

Unfortunately, I don't really know anybody that would know any better than me.

I don't think i'll buy it anyway as I think i'd regret not holding out for the leather later on.

There's also this one, which is closer to home. It's a ridiculous price though. What kind of movement on the price do you think dealers will offer up?

robertxxx

It's from a more recognised dealer, go in with a dirty low price, tell him its pre 08, so high tax, and 2ltr petrol, which nobody wants these days.

Offer 10k and work from there.

rocky

Or this one for 6950:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4632100

techguy

Is that what haldex means?

Supergurrier

They do look best in Red though imo, with black rims they look the biz

dave45dave

OSI wrote: »

That one's so well looked after, it's had the oil changed on a 4WD system it doesn't have! :mad:[/QUOTE

Naas road autos have been around donkeys. Have a good name compared to other garages on that stretch of road

techguy

Look at this one. €17k is utter madness.

Mileage is pretty low. I'm not suggesting this is clocked but at what point does mileage become suspect? Also, with multiple owners i'd be suspicious. Just one owner and I wouldn't mind as much.

Personally, i'm holding out for a 5 DR/Leather/DSG/Climate/Multi function steering wheel. I'd probably buy anything up to 75k miles and pay no more than €11,500 (for mileage on the lower end)

Am I hoping for too much here?

MuppetCheck

techguy wrote: »

Look at this one. €17k is utter madness.

Mileage is pretty low. I'm not suggesting this is clocked but at what point does mileage become suspect? Also, with multiple owners i'd be suspicious. Just one owner and I wouldn't mind as much.

Personally, i'm holding out for a 5 DR/Leather/DSG/Climate/Multi function steering wheel. I'd probably buy anything up to 75k miles and pay no more than €11,500 (for mileage on the lower end)

Am I hoping for too much here?

Someone bought a demo and does about 6k a year? Nothing beyond the realms of possibility tbh.

Supergurrier

No offense but if you pay that you are a mug.

I bought my car for last June only had 59,000km and was a 2007 so it's not beyond normal for a evening/weekend car.

techguy

I just took a DSG out for a test drive there.

Didn't get to put the foot down but from what I got, I imagine full bore acceleration would be immense. Also, great whine out of the turbo which would never get old!

This one had cloth seats which were really comfy, i'd go as far discount the leather requirement. A welcome change as it broadens the search, a bit!

Too bad this one was too pricey for me. Best price was €14, 250 for '07.

The search continues! I feel a purchase is imminent, so better get insurance lined up next week. That won't be as much fun though

tossy

If you are test driving a car like a GTI a motorway/dual carriage way stint is a must - take it up to speed and see how it behaves.

techguy

tossy wrote: »

If you are test driving a car like a GTI a motorway/dual carriage way stint is a must - take it up to speed and see how it behaves.

I agree, next time!

techguy

Hi Guys,

What do you think of this one? It seems to fit the bill nicely.

There's 3 owners marked on the ad. Would you guys consider this an issue?

tossy

Not as much an issue as the 5 doors

dar83

Number of owners isn't that big of a deal, as long as the garage you're buying it off can tell you the cars background. With the options that car has I wouldn't be surprised if the first owner was a garage and it was a demo. There's one owner down already!

Check to see service history and verify that. That's far more important.

techguy

Hi Guys,

Thanks for the feedback on this thread. I eventually got myself a GTI. After trying both leather and cloth I opted for cloth as I found it more comfortable. Also, not as cold to sit into when it's freezing.

rocky

pics/spec?

tossy

techguy wrote: »

Hi Guys,

Thanks for the feedback on this thread. I eventually got myself a GTI. After trying both leather and cloth I opted for cloth as I found it more comfortable. Also, not as cold to sit into when it's freezing.

Congrats and well wear.

Supergurrier

Pics Pics (Is it pink?)

gollywog

Supergurrier wrote: »

Pics Pics (Is it pink?)

No there's only one pink GTI in ireland!

That unfortunatly seems to need a new mechatronic unit for the dsg, going up to george to see exactly on wednesday

Supergurrier

Ouch

gollywog

Supergurrier wrote: »

Ouch

Yup Lost my job recently too so im pretty much up **** creek now....

**** it though, i have my health (and my looks :P) so it could be worse I guess....

Supergurrier

Sorry to hear that dude

How did you get on with the lowering springs and exhaust system ? Haven't seen any recent pics

thecomedian

gollywog wrote: »

No there's only one pink GTI in ireland!

That unfortunatly seems to need a new mechatronic unit for the dsg, going up to george to see exactly on wednesday

Is it expensive?

Say hi to my car for me when your there:)

gollywog

Supergurrier wrote: »

Sorry to hear that dude

How did you get on with the lowering springs and exhaust system ? Haven't seen any recent pics

Cheers man.
The coilovers are grand but still need a little tweaking and new droplinks, but the quality is there, good stiff ride but not uncomfortable at all And the exhaust is great, Really like the sound of it, not too over the top

thecomedian wrote: »

Is it expensive?

Say hi to my car for me when your there:)

I think so? Only one man knows the answer to that
Ha ha I sure will! What car is it?? Sorry i've an awful memory man!

thecomedian

gollywog wrote: »

Cheers man.
The coilovers are grand but still need a little tweaking and new droplinks, but the quality is there, good stiff ride but not uncomfortable at all And the exhaust is great, Really like the sound of it, not too over the top



I think so? Only one man knows the answer to that
Ha ha I sure will! What car is it?? Sorry i've an awful memory man!

A grey TT, it's in getting a sensor

thecomedian

gollywog wrote: »

Cheers man.
The coilovers are grand but still need a little tweaking and new droplinks, but the quality is there, good stiff ride but not uncomfortable at all And the exhaust is great, Really like the sound of it, not too over the top



I think so? Only one man knows the answer to that
Ha ha I sure will! What car is it?? Sorry i've an awful memory man!

A grey TT, it's in getting a sensor

Op any pics of the gti?

techguy

Hey Gollywog, sorry to hear about your misfortune. I'd be majorly pissed if my DSG gave up, is that gonna set you back a couple of grand?

Anyway, here's my new machine. It's a 5DR with DSG, MFSW, Cloth seats, 17" wheels and alarm.

No cruise control, which I miss and would consider a retrofit if I could find somebody to do it for a decent price. I've heard that it costs €450 +vat from ICE in Ranelagh. That seems a little high to be honest, is that accurate?

It's also got a Parrot MKi9200 which is great but I'm considering swapping it out for an Asteroid Smart (or something similar).

It's got 69 thousand km on the clock.

I know what you guys would say about the 17s but I was down the country at the weekend and I can only say i'm glad I don't have 18s. Ride was rough enough as is and I cant image the 18s would look good for long.

thecomedian

It looks nice OP.

I would ask George about the cruise control, I know he does them.

Henry Ford III

A 5 door? :eek:

techguy

thecomedian wrote: »

It looks nice OP.

I would ask George about the cruise control, I know he does them.

Will do, is that his user name on here? Profile link? Cheers.

Henry Ford III wrote: »

A 5 door? :eek:

Yes, I turned down a 3dr a couple of days previously. I chickened out at the impracticality and the fear of regret! **wuss**

tossy

George is the man for cruise control he retro fitted to my S3.

techguy

George Dalton Is there a link with the car sales crowd?