Water purity testing in Waterford?

spankmemunkey

Hi all, where can i get my water purity tested from a private company here in Waterford.

Theres a huge campaign on at the moment about FLURIDISATION of our water supply and there is a woman taking the government to court about it at the moment, The Girl Against Fluoride.

There are also many other toxins in our water that is one of the reasons Ireland is the sickest country in europe and has the highest cancer rates in europe cos we are the only ones adding fluoride to our water, its banned in the rest of Europe.

http://www.hotpress.ie/news/Fluoride-should-not-be-added-to-our-drinking-water--Paddy-Casey/9562131.html?new_layout=1

Anyway where can i get my water tested in waterford?

mike65

You can try this lot

http://www.acornwater.com/showprod.php?id=48

I doubt a walk in place will charge you any less.

Cabaal

spankmemunkey wrote: »

There are also many other toxins in our water that is one of the reasons Ireland is the sickest country in europe and has the highest cancer rates in europe

Got some stats/facts from a reliable proven source for this, that confirm that its toxins in water that are a contributing factor like you've claimed?

Your somehow suggesting that our water is causing people to be more sick in Ireland, so nothing to do with our obesity rates, lack of exercise, smoking and extremely unhealthy attitude to drink?

cos we are the only ones adding fluoride to our water, its banned in the rest of Europe.

Banned right across Europe, you 100% sure about this?

So if for example if I looked at a UK water companys site I'm sure they'd say they are not using it?...because its banned.

http://www.anglianwater.co.uk/household/water-quality/facts/fluoride/

Or maybe another water company?

http://severntrentwater.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/261/session/L3RpbWUvMTM2MTI3NDkwMy9zaWQvVWpVNkZlamw=

Nope, seems its not banned in the rest of Europe like you've claimed.

Sully

I hear it was fluoride that caused Masons to defer its launch. That and the witch. /speculation

christophicus

Sully wrote: »

I hear it was fluoride that caused Masons to defer its launch. That and the witch. /speculation

Great contribution there mod , way to contribute to health discourse and thread development. .

In all seriousness though, despite some over-eager claims by the OP, I know a few people who are quite concerned about the quality of our drinking water and the fact that fluoride is being added. It'd be great if this thread could be left without the unnecessary ridicule that is already taking hold, in order to let interesting and informative discussion take place.

spankmemunkey

Im not an expert so i may have gotten some of the stats wrong, Scientist Declan Waugh has been advising governments around the world and He contacted the HSE he was told its nothing to do with us, he contacted another body and another and he was told by all the relevant bodies that its nothing to do with them.

Go to facebook and look up The Girl Against Fluoride and youll find all the relevant facts, or go and browse through the latest copy of Hotpress to read Dr Declan Waughs 3 page findings.

All countries have people who drink and smoke they are statisitcly going to be sick anyway, yet Irelands cancer and other illness's are way above the european levels.

When people hear and read things like this their first reaction is shock and denial and there response is then ridicule. read up on it first and then see.

spankmemunkey

Cabaal wrote: »

Got some stats/facts from a reliable proven source for this, that confirm that its toxins in water that are a contributing factor like you've claimed?

Your somehow suggesting that our water is causing people to be more sick in Ireland, so nothing to do with our obesity rates, lack of exercise, smoking and extremely unhealthy attitude to drink?



Banned right across Europe, you 100% sure about this?

So if for example if I looked at a UK water companys site I'm sure they'd say they are not using it?...because its banned.

http://www.anglianwater.co.uk/household/water-quality/facts/fluoride/

Or maybe another water company?

http://severntrentwater.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/261/session/L3RpbWUvMTM2MTI3NDkwMy9zaWQvVWpVNkZlamw=

Nope, seems its not banned in the rest of Europe like you've claimed.

I think youll find that this link youve posted talks about NATURALLY OCCURING fluoride! IRELAND ADDS it to their supply!

Okay i found that its 10 percent is added in England, None is added in the north and none in Wales and none in Scotland

Heres a link for the countries who have said no to Fluoridisation

http://www.fluoridefreewater.ie/levels.php

kayaksurfbum

This is not a Waterford specific thing really is it? Also, no one makes you drink tap water.

spankmemunkey

kayaksurfbum wrote: »

This is not a Waterford specific thing really is it? Also, no one makes you drink tap water.

No but i asked about having water tested in waterford and who does it, theres other nasties in your water besides fluoride.

I dont drink tap water i drink bottled water, but i do make tea and cook with it, So i should buy bottled water from now on if i want to drink tea and cook?

why are people so angry and aggressive when people hightlight issues that might be causing them harm?

Why are they adding this to water in a recession anyway for our TEETH? absolute bull, its costs the government money to add this why not just cut it out. why dont they just trust people to brush their teeth!

mydogjack

Rumour has it John Mullane asked for non fluoride water and the Waterford backroom team could not source any, and poor John left the team as a result of this. He now trains alone, up the Comeraghs at Mahon Falls, where he only rehydrates with Pure water boy!:P

Straycat

there is a place out in ferrybank that does it, up by atheneum hotel in one of the industrial units. cant remember the name though.

ronaneire

Install a Fluoride removal filter. Job done!

wellboytoo

There are several labs in Wfd nearest is John Goff at the airport business park think he trades as JHG Anylitical then FBA labs in cappaquin and Lancater labs in dungarvan

spankmemunkey

ronaneire wrote: »

Install a Fluoride removal filter. Job done!

Is there such a thing as a fluoride removal filter? youd probably want to be getting a reverse osmossis filter that seems to be the way to go, They are a bit €€€€€€€€ though!

ronaneire

spankmemunkey wrote: »

Is there such a thing as a fluoride removal filter? youd probably want to be getting a reverse osmossis filter that seems to be the way to go, They are a bit €€€€€€€€ though!

There actually is. Reverse Osmosis removing everything from water including all the natural minerals and are also bad for the environment as they waste a lot of water just to produce pure water!!

spankmemunkey

ronaneire wrote: »

There actually is. Reverse Osmosis removing everything from water including all the natural minerals and are also bad for the environment as they waste a lot of water just to produce pure water!!

I know your wont listen to me here but Fluoride is also bad for the Environment. one of the reasons it was banned was because its bad for the environement.

jh79

Banned from what exactly?

spankmemunkey

jh79 wrote: »

Banned from what exactly?

Its banned from water supply in all european countries bar 10 percent in england, cos of the related medical concerns from fluoridisating countries! Kazaksthan being one of them!

Read this link, shows you what countries banned it and why, theres also other info on it.

Theres also a campaign on facebook The Girl Against Fluoride, shes taking the government to court over it.

http://www.fluoridefreewater.ie/levels.php

jh79

spankmemunkey wrote: »

Its banned from water supply in all european countries bar 10 percent in england, cos of the related medical concerns from fluoridisating countries! Kazaksthan being one of them!

Table salt contains fluoride in some euro countries and makes up for the lack of it in Euro water supplies.

What happens to the fluoride containing chemicals when they react with water? What are the by-products of this reaction? At what concentration are these chemicals ? And at what concentration are these toxic?

If you can't answer these questions then I don't understand how you could come to the conclusion that it is a health risk.

BTW pure water is dangerous, it will remove minerals and salt form your body and could cause a heart attack, impure water is actually good for us.

number66

You might be interested in 2010 waterford water tests.

jh79

0.753mg/L is nothing to be worried about so why all the fuss?

Not The Real Scarecrow

Wasn't there a similar push in the states a while back , but if I remember correctly,they were advocating a ban cause some people were insisting that fluoride was being used as a mind control substance!
If you look at anything we consume deep enough you'll undoubtedly find some adverse side effect that will effect some one.For instance people worrying that fluoride causes cancer should be aware that drinking bottled water is also proven to be a contributor to getting cancer.If you're concerned about environmental effects ,I hope you're fairly sure that the plastic you drink your water from is definitely recycled and you'll ensure that the same bottle will in turn be recycled in a safe fashion.You can't win so choose your poison.

spankmemunkey

jh79 wrote: »

Table salt contains fluoride in some euro countries and makes up for the lack of it in Euro water supplies.

What happens to the fluoride containing chemicals when they react with water? What are the by-products of this reaction? At what concentration are these chemicals ? And at what concentration are these toxic?

If you can't answer these questions then I don't understand how you could come to the conclusion that it is a health risk.

BTW pure water is dangerous, it will remove minerals and salt form your body and could cause a heart attack, impure water is actually good for us.

Table salt is a choice water from a tap is a neccessity!

Why are they adding it??? for out teeth? comon theres a recession on and this costs money to do why not drop it?

Why is it banned in all other european countries then??

Water is bad for us yes, but adding Fluoride to it is making it worse!

Look at all the links i posted and you will get more facts, why are people so angry to react to information like that?
your a very trusting people the Irish, You trusted that you were eating beef when you were eating horse, even though it stated BEEF on the pack.

You trusted priests with your children and nuns in laudries and banks with money, Dont be so trusting of your government and what they say is good for you. if your angry by what i say just read up on it a bit more!

spankmemunkey

number66 wrote: »

You might be interested in 2010 waterford water tests.

They say the water tests are okay why is there brown stuff coming out of my tap every so often? i know this can be due to flow being interrupted from time to time.

jh79

the links you posted are from conspiracy theory websites and the like, they are scientifically suspect.

The level of fluoride in Waterford is perfectly safe.

It is banned in other countries for ethical reasons not for health reasons.

btw they teach creation science in some countries too, governments don't always make logical decisions.

jh79

spankmemunkey wrote: »

They say the water tests are okay why is there brown stuff coming out of my tap every so often? i know this can be due to flow being interrupted from time to time.

Dirt entering cracked pipes? Want to ban dirt too?

Not The Real Scarecrow

spankmemunkey wrote: »

They say the water tests are okay why is there brown stuff coming out of my tap every so often? i know this can be due to flow being interrupted from time to time.

Maybe the brown stuff feels like taking a break from coming out your mouth and chooses the tap for a holiday;)

spankmemunkey

Meatwad wrote: »

Maybe the brown stuff feels like taking a break from coming out your mouth and chooses the tap for a holiday;)

Ha ha very funny, I was waiting for the conspiracy theory slaggin to come along, Im putting a debate forward and where your lacking in arguement you just resort to slagging.

Whys is it banned in all other european countries?

Cos its not safe! this is the the typical irish way of thinking your not pro active your reactive, and when someone comes out with something you dont like you slag them off, very grown up!

spankmemunkey

jh79 wrote: »

Dirt entering cracked pipes? Want to ban dirt too?

YES! its bad for you! some people dont care about what they eat or consume!

You like drinking brown water?

Thats why i want to have the water tested!

jh79

At what concentration per litre is it toxic? It is a reasonable question to ask.

spankmemunkey

http://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/letters/fluoride-use-should-be-suspended-222571.html

I havent got all those details im afraid if you look at the links i posted youll find out alot of info, theres a few links there and there is a comprehensive scientific analysis in the latest issue of HotPress from Scientist Declan Waugh he published some of his findings there!

This has been picked up by alot of leading papers and you will hear more news about it when there is a court case on the topic!

Not The Real Scarecrow

spankmemunkey wrote: »

Ha ha very funny, I was waiting for the conspiracy theory slaggin to come along, Im putting a debate forward and where your lacking in arguement you just resort to slagging.

See the problem is it doesn't seem like you're putting forward a debate.It comes across that you're preaching to people and can be very patronising. If its one thing you should have learned aboutIrish people ,is that we don't respond well to foreigners telling us what we should be doing and talking down to us like morons. You've expressed your contempt for Waterford and its people plenty of times so don't expect the same people to start praising you for telling us where we went wrong in the past. If you're going to throw stones make sure your own country has a clean record to begin with. It wasn't only Ireland that stood back and remained silent when the government was performing atrocities.
I don't think you'd take it too kindly if people were to overly simplify your countries history.You know nothing about Ireland or how the country operates. You have an overly simplified view of events that you back up with unverified information off sites like Facebook. There's plenty of verified scientific test that prove fluoride is harmless to the majority of the population. It may be one of the many causes of cancer in people but there are few instances(if any) of this been proven.
If you're going to start a thread with

There are also many other toxins in our water that is one of the reasons Ireland is the sickest country in europe and has the highest cancer rates in europe cos we are the only ones adding fluoride to our water, its banned in the rest of Europe.

have the facts to back it up. I've travelled around Europe and at least in the majority of Ireland you can drink the tap water with out fear of getting badly sick, you can't state that for some of our EU counter parts.

jh79

spankmemunkey wrote: »

http://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/letters/fluoride-use-should-be-suspended-222571.html

I havent got all those details im afraid if you look at the links i posted youll find out alot of info, theres a few links there and there is a comprehensive scientific analysis in the latest issue of HotPress from Scientist Declan Waugh he published some of his findings there!

This has been picked up by alot of leading papers and you will hear more news about it when there is a court case on the topic!

There is absolutely no detail in that article. Toxicity depends on concentration. All compounds have adverse effects at certain concentrations, Vitamins for example are carcinogens so why not ban supplement too?

The anti-fluoride side are always very vague on actual scientific facts and just say it is toxic, it comes from toxic waste etc. It is a simple question at what concentration is it toxic?

Ask yourself, why won't the anti-fluoride side answer this question? Why are their arguments so vague? Could it be that the concentration in our water supply is actually relatively safe?

Cabaal

spankmemunkey wrote: »

I think youll find that this link youve posted talks about NATURALLY OCCURING fluoride! IRELAND ADDS it to their supply!

Okay i found that its 10 percent is added in England, None is added in the north and none in Wales and none in Scotland

Heres a link for the countries who have said no to Fluoridisation

http://www.fluoridefreewater.ie/levels.php

nope,
I know what I posted

http://www.anglianwater.co.uk/household/water-quality/facts/fluoride/

In England, fluoridation schemes target the final level of fluoride at one milligramme per litre of water (equivalent to one part per million). Fluoridation is undertaken at the request of certain Strategic Health Authorities and is carried out in accordance with strict legal guidelines.

http://severntrentwater.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/261/session/L3RpbWUvMTM2MTI3NDkwMy9zaWQvVWpVNkZlamw=

Fluoride is added to water in some areas at the request of the Strategic Health Authority to protect teeth from decay. The decision to add fluoride to drinking water is solely the responsibility of the Strategic Health Authority and not Severn Trent Water. Fluoride is normally added as a diluted solution or as a powder.

So while they both state there is a level of naturally occurring fluoride its also added by Strategic Health Authority, did you even read what I posted?

wellboytoo

As someone who never a had a "town supply" I am not getting into the whole Flouride thing, but would suggest there is a bigger problem with farm effluent and fecal matter in our water than flouride will ever be.
Note the N2 levels in the WCC examples shown by a previous poster and how they peak at certain times of the year.

spankmemunkey

Cabaal wrote: »

nope,
I know what I posted

http://www.anglianwater.co.uk/household/water-quality/facts/fluoride/



http://severntrentwater.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/261/session/L3RpbWUvMTM2MTI3NDkwMy9zaWQvVWpVNkZlamw=



So while they both state there is a level of naturally occurring fluoride its also added by Strategic Health Authority, did you even read what I posted?

Yes i did thats why i went back and edited my post to say its at 10% in england

spankmemunkey

Meatwad wrote: »

See the problem is it doesn't seem like you're putting forward a debate.It comes across that you're preaching to people and can be very patronising. If its one thing you should have learned aboutIrish people ,is that we don't respond well to foreigners telling us what we should be doing and talking down to us like morons. You've expressed your contempt for Waterford and its people plenty of times so don't expect the same people to start praising you for telling us where we went wrong in the past. If you're going to throw stones make sure your own country has a clean record to begin with. It wasn't only Ireland that stood back and remained silent when the government was performing atrocities.
I don't think you'd take it too kindly if people were to overly simplify your countries history.You know nothing about Ireland or how the country operates. You have an overly simplified view of events that you back up with unverified information off sites like Facebook. There's plenty of verified scientific test that prove fluoride is harmless to the majority of the population. It may be one of the many causes of cancer in people but there are few instances(if any) of this been proven.
If you're going to start a thread with



have the facts to back it up. I've travelled around Europe and at least in the majority of Ireland you can drink the tap water with out fear of getting badly sick, you can't state that for some of our EU counter parts.

Ive lived many places in europe too and i have got my facts right Where abouts in europe have you been that youve been badly sick from the water supply? your making alot of presumptions about me and where im from, and your angle is just that you dont like me, If i had of said that it was perfectly fine youd say the opposite! If you dont care what i say or dont agree you dont have to answer me! your just coming here to ridicule me or whateve i say becuase of your dislike for me!

spankmemunkey

wellboytoo wrote: »

As someone who never a had a "town supply" I am not getting into the whole Flouride thing, but would suggest there is a bigger problem with farm effluent and fecal matter in our water than flouride will ever be.
Note the N2 levels in the WCC examples shown by a previous poster and how they peak at certain times of the year.

Be careful about pointing things out to people youll be run out of town! You must be mad theres nothing wrong with brown water!!!!:eek:

Waterfords water supply is fine no need to have it tested trust the powers that be they'll never lie to us.:D

At the end of the day adding Fluoride to water to protect our teeth is bull! Its not practised in any other european country bar 10 percent in england, but good old Ireland keep throwing it in their ah feck them!
Just like they left Tartazine in food for humans and it was banned animal feed in 1979 30 odd years till they reacted, still its only taken them 50 odd years to take the fluoride out when they do!

spankmemunkey

jh79 wrote: »

There is absolutely no detail in that article. Toxicity depends on concentration. All compounds have adverse effects at certain concentrations, Vitamins for example are carcinogens so why not ban supplement too?

The anti-fluoride side are always very vague on actual scientific facts and just say it is toxic, it comes from toxic waste etc. It is a simple question at what concentration is it toxic?

Ask yourself, why won't the anti-fluoride side answer this question? Why are their arguments so vague? Could it be that the concentration in our water supply is actually relatively safe?

Thats one of several articles, I didnt say that this had all the answeres i was merely highlightin this campaign! Theres other links i have posted but theres many many more that i havent posted cos this thread isnt just about Fluoride its about water quality in waterford and having it tested.

kayaksurfbum

If i were you OP. Id go get my water tested, then when you know what levels of "nasties" are in it, and you know what levels of said "nasties" are proven to be dangerous to us, come back on here and ask us if we care.

spankmemunkey

kayaksurfbum wrote: »

If i were you OP. Id go get my water tested, then when you know what levels of "nasties" are in it, and you know what levels of said "nasties" are proven to be dangerous to us, come back on here and ask us if we care.

Why should i tell yous? youve obviously made it clear you dont care about what your drinking, My initial query was to where i could get my water tested because there are nasties in the water, even the the other local poster will tell you that theres all sorts of farm waste in the water a few posts back!

spankmemunkey

wellboytoo wrote: »

As someone who never a had a "town supply" I am not getting into the whole Flouride thing, but would suggest there is a bigger problem with farm effluent and fecal matter in our water than flouride will ever be.
Note the N2 levels in the WCC examples shown by a previous poster and how they peak at certain times of the year.

Just read this above!

wellboytoo

spankmemunkey wrote: »

Just read this above!

Whoa right there, read what I said again, I said you should be more concerned not worried.
As I said I do not want to get involved in the flouride debate.
Mainly because all the anti flouride activists I have ever encountered were out of their gourd lunatics that I wouldnt share a county with never mind an opinion.







I really will have to learn to stop holding back.

spankmemunkey

wellboytoo wrote: »

Whoa right there, read what I said again, I said you should be more concerned not worried.
As I said I do not want to get involved in the flouride debate.
Mainly because all the anti flouride activists I have ever encountered were out of their gourd lunatics that I wouldnt share a county with never mind an opinion.







I really will have to learn to stop holding back.

You really must!

ronaneire

spankmemunkey wrote: »

I know your wont listen to me here but Fluoride is also bad for the Environment. one of the reasons it was banned was because its bad for the environement.

Sorry but I don't get into the whole debating thing regarding Fluoride. There are people in favour and others who are not.

As for you saying that Fluoride is bad for the environment, can you provide a link to the same? Or can you please explain?

stefan idiot jones

Meatwad wrote: »

See the problem is it doesn't seem like you're putting forward a debate.It comes across that you're preaching to people and can be very patronising. If its one thing you should have learned aboutIrish people ,is that we don't respond well to foreigners telling us what we should be doing and talking down to us like morons. You've expressed your contempt for Waterford and its people plenty of times so don't expect the same people to start praising you for telling us where we went wrong in the past. If you're going to throw stones make sure your own country has a clean record to begin with. It wasn't only Ireland that stood back and remained silent when the government was performing atrocities.
I don't think you'd take it too kindly if people were to overly simplify your countries history.You know nothing about Ireland or how the country operates. You have an overly simplified view of events that you back up with unverified information off sites like Facebook. There's plenty of verified scientific test that prove fluoride is harmless to the majority of the population. It may be one of the many causes of cancer in people but there are few instances(if any) of this been proven.
If you're going to start a thread with



have the facts to back it up. I've travelled around Europe and at least in the majority of Ireland you can drink the tap water with out fear of getting badly sick, you can't state that for some of our EU counter parts.

That'll learn you to call the womenfolk "orange" !!!!!!!!!!:)

spankmemunkey

ronaneire wrote: »

Sorry but I don't get into the whole debating thing regarding Fluoride. There are people in favour and others who are not.

As for you saying that Fluoride is bad for the environment, can you provide a link to the same? Or can you please explain?

Just read some of the links i previously posted, there are a few of many sources of info.

Why are Ireland the only country doing it? bar 10% in the UK why have the others banned it.

If you are introducing a product to a market you have to scientificly disprove it has any health worries, The Irish government havent disproved this and its upto them to do so, If they are adding it in such small amounts why ad it at all? Why has it been banned everywhere else?
Like cutting child benefit is on a list of priorities and they still add this crap that actually costs money to do and out of all the cuts that have been made to all the people they still do this? The vast majority of people disagree with me on this so theres not much point in me posting further on this.

By the way its advised not to bottle feed babies using tap water due to the levels of Fluoride are dangerous to the child, even if you look at toothpaste for example they dont recommend you use tooth paste on kids under 6 due to the fluoride in it, so please take head of that at least!

Oh and on the orange women, elephants never forget eh!:D comin over here takin our jobs and slaggin our women:D some people read things with an angry face on!

ronaneire

spankmemunkey wrote: »

Just read some of the links i previously posted, there are a few of many sources of info.

Why are Ireland the only country doing it? bar 10% in the UK why have the others banned it.

If you are introducing a product to a market you have to scientificly disprove it has any health worries, The Irish government havent disproved this and its upto them to do so, If they are adding it in such small amounts why ad it at all? Why has it been banned everywhere else?
Like cutting child benefit is on a list of priorities and they still add this crap that actually costs money to do and out of all the cuts that have been made to all the people they still do this? The vast majority of people disagree with me on this so theres not much point in me posting further on this.

By the way its advised not to bottle feed babies using tap water due to the levels of Fluoride are dangerous to the child, even if you look at toothpaste for example they dont recommend you use tooth paste on kids under 6 due to the fluoride in it, so please take head of that at least!

Oh and on the orange women, elephants never forget eh!:D comin over here takin our jobs and slaggin our women:D some people read things with an angry face on!

Sorry I am not going to trawl back through the thread to find a link, have you a link that officially states that Fluoride is bad for the "environment"?

Also who has advised that babies shouldn't be fed bottles made from tap water?

As for the toothpaste, they advise "Children of 6 years and under: use a pea sized amount for supervised brushing to minimise swallowing"

Where ever you maybe getting you're information from, may not be correct.

spankmemunkey

ronaneire wrote: »

Sorry I am not going to trawl back through the thread to find a link, have you a link that officially states that Fluoride is bad for the "environment"?

Also who has advised that babies shouldn't be fed bottles made from tap water?

As for the toothpaste, they advise "Children of 6 years and under: use a pea sized amount for supervised brushing to minimise swallowing"

Where ever you maybe getting you're information from, may not be correct.

The latest issue of Hotpress covers it pretty much but theres also a facebook page and more links, If your perfectly happy to continue drinking fluoride and bottle feeding with tap water then go ahead im not going to come on here to take abuse by every poster who feels like having a pop ive posted up all im going to post up on this topic, after i debate it out with you there'll be another poster who demands to see the links the posts the pages. ill throw these few out.

I also forgot to say that EPA has also reported that Fluoride has a damaging effect on the environment

Actually the first link is good it shows there was an Eu ruling that says any company making food product using Fluoridated water cannot export or sell that product anywhere else in europe,


http://www.oneworldchronicle.com/?p=5402



http://www.mayonews.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=15648:council-warned-of-fluoridation-risks-in-water&catid=23:news&Itemid=46

http://www.fluoridealert.org/news/letter-by-declan-waugh-fluoride-in-water-supply-is-exposing-our-citizens-to-unnecessary-hazards/

http://www.fluoridesandhealth.ie/documents/Appraisal_of_Waugh_report_May_2012.pdf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhA2abeOm7o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahPAgeQc1tk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhA2abeOm7o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rUxenL3fs4

http://ffwireland.blogspot.ie/2013/01/evidence-based-medical-science-used-to.html

The Studies and findings by Declan Waugh speak for themselve, when we compare NORTHERN IRELAND no Fluoride added to their water compared to SOUTHERN IRELAND
Higher instance of Cancer than the NORTH
40% Higher bone Cancer rate in the South
2x the Osteoporossis rate and on and on and on

jackfrostwins

Hmmm, who to believe? The rest of Europe or our daws. Tough one.

spankmemunkey

jackfrostwins wrote: »

Hmmm, who to believe? The rest of Europe or our daws. Tough one.

No trust the Irish Government they do whats best for us all the time and always have! Its all there in the scientific papers,

Untested untried unproven to be safe! the onus is on the people putting it in a paper to prove its safe and they havent done the relevant health and safety tests to prove so, and somebody said i was preaching, that all depends on how you perceive what im writing.