Eirigí Showing How to Wreck a Water Meter

geeky

The splinter group from SF have put a vid on Youtube demonstrating how to sabotage a water meter.

I'm not going to link or post the video (unless a mod says otherwise) because I don't want to get boards.ie into hot water, but it does raise some issues.

I think this is an absolutely insane thing to do. It's inciting people to destroy taxpayer property. It won't change the policy - it'll just get naive people prosecuted and cost the taxpayer (that's us by the way, not na sasanaigh) money to boot. That's before you even consider that people will do this incorrectly end end up cutting off their water supplies.

Is there any reason this could possibly be a good idea?

Chips Lovell

It'll bring us one step closer to a 32 county, Socialist People's Republic.

MaxSteele

So long as they show how to do it correctly, good luck to them.

Sh1tbag OToole

But those water meters cost over €300!

(Phil Hogan's friend's company buys them from China for €10 each and sells them for Irish Water for €150 and they double the cost again)

drdeadlift

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

But those water meters cost over €300!

(Phil Hogan's friend's company buys them from China for €10 each and sells them for Irish Water for €150 and they double the cost again)

Are you serious

Phill Ewinn

off HOME to wreck my house so I don't have to pay th hhc

antodeco

geeky wrote: »

I don't want to get boards.ie into hot water

Hot water?

If anything it will get people into cold water

Death and Taxes

What else would you expect frrom criminals like eirigi.:mad:

Annasopra

Absolute scum thing to do

drdeadlift

its a water meter,its not like they bet the **** out of yer granny

Ash.J.Williams

They tried to rob a gun shop a few months back didn't they?

Chips Lovell

And who's going to have to pay for them to be fixed? The law abiding tax payer.

mickydoomsux

Republicans showing their true colours once again.

Gunmonkey

As someone whose family have been on a local water scheme since before I was born (Im 30 now) and have been paying for every drop of it in our house and our farm for decades, its nice to see the likes of Eirigí making a fuss for us these past dozen or so years....oh wait, no!!! They dont give two s**ts when we have to pay for our water which they claim is a neccesity, but heaven forbid they have to drop a cent for it......

Bunch of p***ks if you ask me.

Chips Lovell

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

They tried to rob a gun shop a few months back didn't they?

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/1130/breaking4.html

CreepingDeath

geeky wrote: »

The splinter group from SF have put a vid on Youtube demonstrating how to sabotage a water meter.

How do you get the splinters into the meter ?

Wossack

CreepingDeath wrote: »

How do you get the splinters into the meter ?

tweesers

mickydoomsux

Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/1130/breaking4.html

The response from the representative of Eirigi is laughable in that article.

'Let's not let the fact that one of our members was charged with stealing firearms start a witch hunt now'

griffdaddy

Fliuchí ár lá

Ash.J.Williams

mickydoomsux wrote: »

The response from the representative of Eirigi is laughable in that article.

'Let's not let the fact that one of our members was charged with stealing firearms start a witch hunt now'

bloody "mcarthyists"!

kowloon

Anyone expect this to be a news story about a blunder manufacturing the meters?

As in: How to wreck a water meter... get it wet.

I'm deeply disappointed.

Crooked Jack

mickydoomsux wrote: »

Republicans showing their true colours once again.

Firstly, this is hardly the biggest crime in the world and it's one that will probably get support from a lot of angry and financially stretched people. So "showing their true colours" is probably a bit dramatic.

Secondly, I had no idea that video was endorsed by Sinn Fein, Fianna Fail, Fine Gael, IRSP and a whole host of unaligned republicans. What's that? It wasn't? So what you really meant to write was eirigi showing their true colours once again. I see.

Simple mistake

mike65

Eirigi are bunch of stone age nutters, their stated "politics" are irrelevant.

kylith

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

But those water meters cost over €300!

(Phil Hogan's friend's company buys them from China for €10 each and sells them for Irish Water for €150 and they double the cost again)

Citation please

CorsetIsTight

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

But those water meters cost over €300!

(Phil Hogan's friend's company buys them from China for €10 each and sells them for Irish Water for €150 and they double the cost again)

kylith wrote: »

Citation please

I want to echo this request for a citation please.

OldGoat

Crooked Jack wrote: »

Firstly, this is hardly the biggest crime in the world

That is such a weak argument.
You could at least define your scale for us.
For example, would you put vandalism is at the zero point on the scale of crime and, oh lets say genocide is at the ten end of the scale. I assume tax evision comes in at one or two on the scale.
Anything at three and under is grand, acceptable cos it's not as bad as an eight, nine or ten.

donalg1

OldGoat wrote: »

That is such a weak argument.
You could at least define your scale for us.
For example, would you put vandalism is at the zero point on the scale of crime and, oh lets say genocide is at the ten end of the scale. I assume tax evision comes in at one or two on the scale.
Anything at three and under is grand, acceptable cos it's not as bad as an eight, nine or ten.

Seems to be the case round here a lot, this attitude of sure whats the harm in me breaking that law when there are others doing much worse stuff than me.

Like you said using a scale here would go something along the lines of, ah sure its ok for me to rob someones house because there was a lad in court yesterday found guilty for murder.

Míshásta

griffdaddy wrote: »

Fliuchí ár lá

lol

The Chuckies have now evolved into the 'Fluckies'

(Polite spelling correction: "Fliuchfaidh ár lá!)

davet82

water is so rare in this country of course we should pay ever rising prices for it ffs!! :mad:

Crooked Jack

OldGoat wrote: »

That is such a weak argument.
You could at least define your scale for us.
For example, would you put vandalism is at the zero point on the scale of crime and, oh lets say genocide is at the ten end of the scale. I assume tax evision comes in at one or two on the scale.
Anything at three and under is grand, acceptable cos it's not as bad as an eight, nine or ten.

Who said acceptable? Where did I voice support for this?
Nowhere.
I was pointing out that the post I had referenced was inaccurate and over dramatic. "Republicans showing their true colours."
Setting aside the fact that eirigi do not speak for all republicans, this post is still ridiculous.
yeah, the whole demand for a free and equal Ireland was a smokescreen for our true desire which is to damage water meters.

Crooked Jack

donalg1 wrote: »

Seems to be the case round here a lot, this attitude of sure whats the harm in me breaking that law when there are others doing much worse stuff than me.

Like you said using a scale here would go something along the lines of, ah sure its ok for me to rob someones house because there was a lad in court yesterday found guilty for murder.

Again, please point out where I voiced support for this action

jimmycrackcorm

Did anyone from eirigi explain how a destroyed meter stops you getting a water bill?

Dan_Solo

Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »

It'll bring us one step closer to a 32 county, Socialist People's Republic.

As has often been said, with them in charge we'd end up with a 32 county Northern Ireland instead.

AlekSmart

Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »

It'll bring us one step closer to a 32 county, Socialist People's Republic.

And,one step closer to smelling like one too.....:rolleyes:

Jester252

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Did anyone from eirigi explain how a destroyed meter stops you getting a water bill?

I nice surpise on the bill for the cost of a new one and the work to install.

Arpa

Something similar to what the Parisians did when they tried to bring in clamping there. Superglue the lock rendering the clamp useless.

It's probably on a different scale in this case but I can't help thinking how the French effectively are lauded for what they do in revolt of something with which they disagree...however if the same was to happen in Ireland there would be outrage.

Maybe someone can clear it up for me. If enough people were to do this rendering the stopcock chambers useless would there be incentive enough to repair or replace the chambers or would the cost be too large and if it was too large is that the ned of water metering? I can't help thinking that no matter how many people blocked the chambers with cement the government would press on with implementing water charges. A new source of continued revenue which is effectively irreversible once implemented would far outweigh the cost of repairs in the long run.

Riddle101

Eirigi are a bunch of scumbags. Always taking things to the extreme. The only thing wrecking your water meter will do, is get you in a bit of hot water, no pun intended.

Jester252

Its times like this I'm glad my home is on a private scheme and don't have to worry about this.

cgarrad

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

But those water meters cost over €300!

(Phil Hogan's friend's company buys them from China for €10 each and sells them for Irish Water for €150 and they double the cost again)

kylith wrote: »

Citation please

CorsetIsTight wrote: »

I want to echo this request for a citation please.

A standard water meter is about €80, the new ones are RFID so they can be read by a van driving down the street, maybe not €300 but definitely €200 or so.

Dartz

Water meters will probably rust solid within a few weeks anyway. No need to mess with them.

Dan_Solo

Arpa wrote: »

Something similar to what the Parisians did when they tried to bring in clamping there. Superglue the lock rendering the clamp useless.

While I'm all for the truckload of cabbages or whatever to keep the entrenched powers on their toes, how does making 100% certain you can't get your car back help fight clamping? Hope they run out of clamps?

OldGoat

Crooked Jack wrote: »

Who said acceptable? Where did I voice support for this?
Nowhere.
I was pointing out that the post I had referenced was inaccurate and over dramatic. "Republicans showing their true colours."
Setting aside the fact that eirigi do not speak for all republicans, this post is still ridiculous.
yeah, the whole demand for a free and equal Ireland was a smokescreen for our true desire which is to damage water meters.

I commented on the fallibality of the argument used. Thats why I selectivly quoted you, because I was only talking about the use of that quote as an argueing point. I did not make comment on anything else you said.

However, as you asked, your use of "It's hardly the worst crime in the world" is an implied acceptence of the stance being taken by those promoting the damage to meters.

Green Diesel

drdeadlift wrote: »

its a water meter,its not like they bet the **** out of yer granny

You could say the same about all vandalism. When my bus stop gets smashed up by some scumbags I don't make excuses for them.

awec

davet82 wrote: »

water is so rare in this country of course we should pay ever rising prices for it ffs!! :mad:

You aren't paying for the water based on it's availability.

nelly17

Sure the Flouride will wreck the water meters in a matter of days anyway

Guy:Incognito

davet82 wrote: »

water is so rare in this country of course we should pay ever rising prices for it ffs!! :mad:

Your grand to go ahead and drink all the sea water or stuff you collect in a bucket from rain you like for free you know. The stuff that comes from the tap costs money to get it there though.

Maudi

Jester252 wrote: »

Its times like this I'm glad my home is on a private scheme and don't have to worry about this.

typical ring the bell im alright jack.pfffft.

Del2005

Arpa wrote: »

Something similar to what the Parisians did when they tried to bring in clamping there. Superglue the lock rendering the clamp useless.

It's probably on a different scale in this case but I can't help thinking how the French effectively are lauded for what they do in revolt of something with which they disagree...however if the same was to happen in Ireland there would be outrage.

Maybe someone can clear it up for me. If enough people were to do this rendering the stopcock chambers useless would there be incentive enough to repair or replace the chambers or would the cost be too large and if it was too large is that the ned of water metering? I can't help thinking that no matter how many people blocked the chambers with cement the government would press on with implementing water charges. A new source of continued revenue which is effectively irreversible once implemented would far outweigh the cost of repairs in the long run.

They just go for a flat rate water bill. At least with a meter you can theoretically reduce your bill, with flat rate it'll only go up.

Could you be charged with criminal damage for sabotaging the meter?

mike65

Yes as even if it were on your property, you do not own it. Like a UPC cable terminal.

J_E

nelly17 wrote: »

Sure the Flouride will wreck the water meters in a matter of days anyway

That's a whole other argument...

drdeadlift

Green Diesel wrote: »

You could say the same about all vandalism. When my bus stop gets smashed up by some scumbags I don't make excuses for them.

The aesthetics between a vandalized bus stop and a vandalized water meter ok