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How close to go safe van before your caught

  • 17-02-2013 05:19PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭


    Driving on a dual carriageway today doing slightly over the limit, 4 or 5 cars in front of me when i spotted a Garda go safe about 100 meters or more in the distance, it flashed but im wondering at who, how close do you need to be? I'm guessing it was one of the cars in front of me, we were all doing about 110.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    I would have thought when you can see them they can get you.

    If you were doing 110 in a 100 it wasn't you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,711 ✭✭✭C.K Dexter Haven


    I've seen program's saying 1km. The usual saying is if you see them it's too late. If this happens to me, I usually pray that the guy in the back of the van is either setting up or packing away the equipment :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭xabi


    corkgsxr wrote: »
    I would have thought when you can see them they can get you.

    If you were doing 110 in a 100 it wasn't you

    whats the magic number?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    xabi wrote: »
    whats the magic number?

    Still 10% + 3 apply. Last year I was doing about 1.5-2k miles a week. Used gps to keep as close as possible. Stayed at 10% extra to give space for wandering speed up and down.

    Never got a gosafe. Closest it got was a garda with a camera waving to slow down but no pursuit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭djimi


    corkgsxr wrote: »
    Still 10% + 3 apply.

    I dont think this has ever been a hard and fast rule, has it? That would mean that you would get away with going 135 on a motorway, which you almost certainly wouldnt.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    Id never go right to the limit of it but I was always grand at 130-132


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭cottager83


    Can the speed vans get you from both sides or is it just from the back of the van?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    Both sides


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭familystand


    I had a tour of a go safe van at my workplace, They set the cameras to the limit so it snaps every vehicle exceeding the limit , They operate 24/7 with infa red technology and the rear facing camera gets traffic going in both directions if on a normal road
    They upload ALL images to the GARDA system , The Gardai decide who gets done, The camera records your vehicle from approximately 45 feet from the rear of the van, watch one of them setting up sometime , they set up a tripod to set the camera to record from a set distance from a stationary object , namely the van.

    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    That cant be right like are the gardai going to look at every one going 102 kmph. Seems a great waste of time


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭irishgrover


    corkgsxr wrote: »
    .......

    If you were doing 110 in a 100 it wasn't you

    This is not true. My wife has the 4 points to prove it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    dgt wrote: »
    Both sides


    They can get you both ways from the back but they do not have a camera at the front of the van afaik.

    At least I've managed to spool off speed by the time I passed the back of one and I've never heard a thing back about it :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭shooter88


    There is a website and app to check areas where speed cameras do be..
    I'm lucky the bit of road near me they use is after a slip road so I'm never above the limit where passing and comming the other way you can see the roof of the van before it sees you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,979 ✭✭✭Just a Plinker


    Brother inlaw is a Garda told be a failsafe to avoid being clicked be speedcams vans etc, Always worked for me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 Jamie MK2


    Brother inlaw is a Garda told be a failsafe to avoid being clicked be speedcams vans etc, Always worked for me

    What?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭duinegorm


    If your are over the limit, see the van in the distance and then stop and don't pass it ie. use another route around it. Will that mean the rear camera that takes the pic of the license plate will be of no use?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,979 ✭✭✭Just a Plinker


    Don't break the speed limit:D:D:D:D;)
    Jamie MK2 wrote: »
    What?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Brother inlaw is a Garda told be a failsafe to avoid being clicked be speedcams vans etc, Always worked for me

    That's nonsense. Literally.

    The speed sensor picks up your speed reading at about 120-100m (depending on your own speed) The camera then photographs you at roughly 30m. I was told that by an employee of Go Safe who is a very good friend of mine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    Don't break the speed limit:D:D:D:D;)

    seinfield.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    CJC999 wrote: »
    That's nonsense. Literally.

    The speed sensor picks up your speed reading at about 120-100m (depending on your own speed) The camera then photographs you at roughly 30m. I was told that by an employee of Go Safe who is a very good friend of mine.

    The cameras are limited by the distance the can "see". They are only guaranteed to be able to photograph a moving number plate at 6m. The Garda car, by way of contrast can see & sense you at 300m


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    This is not true. My wife has the 4 points to prove it

    By a gardai or gosafe?

    Reason they can't is they have to take away for speedo inaccuracies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    corkgsxr wrote: »
    Reason they can't is they have to take away for speedo inaccuracies.
    Why would they have to do that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭djimi


    corkgsxr wrote: »
    Reason they can't is they have to take away for speedo inaccuracies.

    Which is why you wont be done for going 2km/h over the limit. However suggesting that they will allow you to go as much as 15km/h over the limit is pushing it somewhat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    Anan1 wrote: »
    Why would they have to do that?

    Unless your speedo was gps fed its impossible to get it accurate. Tires are different size between brands, even tire wear will affect it. There are loads of stuff that affect a speedo. If a speedo isnt accurate they need a % to ignore so after that your definitely speeding


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭irishgrover


    corkgsxr wrote: »
    By a gardai or gosafe?

    Reason they can't is they have to take away for speedo inaccuracies.


    GoSafe, between Shannon and Limerick. 2 points for original offence, (110 in a 100 zone) and two points becase she forgot to pay the fine on time.
    If I find the paperwork I'll scan and post..... to be honest I was fairly sure it was for 108 in 100 but my wife swears it was 110


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    Maybe you were unlucky but I used to pass them daily at 110 and never got a ticket. And I used the gps for speed.

    We were alway is a fierce rush. 5-10 mins saved between jobs adds up and you get home sooner. Used to consistently get 36mpg in a 09 2.0 caddy which considering the way it was drove is good. A tank of diesel wouldn't last 2 days.

    Glad im out of that job


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 522 ✭✭✭gbob


    corkgsxr wrote: »
    Unless your speedo was gps fed its impossible to get it accurate. Tires are different size between brands, even tire wear will affect it. There are loads of stuff that affect a speedo. If a speedo isnt accurate they need a % to ignore so after that your definitely speeding

    Except buses and trucks, their speedos are calibrated and are accurate. All other vehicles are permitted to over read by as much as 10%.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    corkgsxr wrote: »

    By a gardai or gosafe?

    Reason they can't is they have to take away for speedo inaccuracies.


    No they don't. If your doing over the limit your going over the limit, simple as.

    Where your getting confused is the fact a lot of speedos under read by up to ten percent. So if your doing an indicated 135kmh your still actually doing slightly more than the indicated speed limit of 120.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    BX 19 wrote: »
    No they don't. If your doing over the limit your going over the limit, simple as.

    Where your getting confused is the fact a lot of speedos under read by up to ten percent. So if your doing an indicated 135kmh your still actually doing slightly more than the indicated speed limit of 120.

    10% both ways. Your speedo could be under reading too. Thats why I used to use the gps to do it without guessing what the speedo is doing


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭pippip


    corkgsxr wrote: »
    10% both ways. Your speedo could be under reading too. Thats why I used to use the gps to do it without guessing what the speedo is doing

    No it cant. EU law states manufacturers cannot let it be less than actual speed.

    This article contains a link for the EU standards law
    http://www.thecarexpert.co.uk/how-accurate-is-a-car-speedometer/


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