So you want to protest against your politicians?

CollardGreens

I can understand why the writer of the thread about marching on Feb 9th is mad, but what I can't understand is when this is happening why does most (not all) of the people here think obama is so great when he is screwing the Americans as bad as you are getting screwed? Not only him, but ALL of our congress, both sides. And they are getting ready (they being all of congress) to give themselves another raise.


75% of MIDDLE CLASS are paying for obamacare, not the rich like you hear on TV.

Obamacare imposes a new 2.3% tax on gross sales.

Americans begin paying premiums for federal long‐term care .... or face an excise tax penalty of at least 2.5 percent of adjusted gross income.

3 MILLION more will be paying more for the new national debt and they keep spending and spending the tax payers money but helping their "friends" (can anybody say FaceBook not paying ANY taxes????).

The unemployment? We're F'ed!


So we are all getting screwed....is this what they call "group sex"?


Most here in the states don't protest, only seems like the younger ones. We do try to vote the bad ones out...I'm one of those hated tea party members. When we have a person running for office we vet them, ask lots of questions. One I always ask is: Will you agree with term limits? NOT ONCE has one of them said yes. They have it easy the rest of their lives. NOT ONCE have I voted for any one of them that say they will not vote for term limits.

For those that don't know, our congress and senate are fixed for life even if they screw with us after they are voted in ~ it's a lifetime free ride for them and their offspring with great medical care and pay while we to people get the dirty end of the stick.

Yes....the evil tea party wants to exercise their rights and find someone worth voting for. Do you think marching and holding up a sign will work better? Come back and let me know if it works and we will make signs too. If not, VET THEM AND VOTE THEM OUT!

SV

This is Ireland.

seantorious

All right guys lets get the Tea party out of power!!!

[5 seconds later]

Well done guys!

Cavehill Red

Hi. Welcome to Boards. This is a (predominantly) Irish and Irish-themed discussion board. We don't have Obamacare here. We don't have tea parties either, or rather, ours involve people drinking tea copiously.
I suspect the froth dripping from your mouth may have blinded you to these facts when posting your partisan political rant.
Which redneck bulletin board for militias, preppers or Fox Newscasters did you mean to post this to?

Chucken

Not again

orestes

We still don't give a sh1te.

IvySlayer

Didn't the American people vote for Obama knowing about his health care policies?

And Congress is in charge of the budget, not the President.

bleg

'Merica.

wp_rathead

CollardGreens wrote: »

I can understand why the writer of the thread about marching on Feb 9th is mad, but what I can't understand is when this is happening why does most (not all) of the people here think obama is so great when he is screwing the Americans as bad as you are getting screwed? Not only him, but ALL of our congress, both sides. And they are getting ready (they being all of congress) to give themselves another raise.


75% of MIDDLE CLASS are paying for obamacare, not the rich like you hear on TV.

Obamacare imposes a new 2.3% tax on gross sales.

Americans begin paying premiums for federal long‐term care .... or face an excise tax penalty of at least 2.5 percent of adjusted gross income.

3 MILLION more will be paying more for the new national debt and they keep spending and spending the tax payers money but helping their "friends" (can anybody say FaceBook not paying ANY taxes????).

The unemployment? We're F'ed!


So we are all getting screwed....is this what they call "group sex"?


Most here in the states don't protest, only seems like the younger ones. We do try to vote the bad ones out...I'm one of those hated tea party members. When we have a person running for office we vet them, ask lots of questions. One I always ask is: Will you agree with term limits? NOT ONCE has one of them said yes. They have it easy the rest of their lives. NOT ONCE have I voted for any one of them that say they will not vote for term limits.

For those that don't know, our congress and senate are fixed for life even if they screw with us after they are voted in ~ it's a lifetime free ride for them and their offspring with great medical care and pay while we to people get the dirty end of the stick.

Yes....the evil tea party wants to exercise their rights and find someone worth voting for. Do you think marching and holding up a sign will work better? Come back and let me know if it works and we will make signs too. If not, VET THEM AND VOTE THEM OUT!

..I don't know the point you're trying to make mate?

CollardGreens

Hi. Welcome to Boards. This is a (predominantly) Irish and Irish-themed discussion board. We don't have Obamacare here. We don't have tea parties either, or rather, ours involve people drinking tea copiously.
I suspect the froth dripping from your mouth may have blinded you to these facts when posting your partisan political rant.
Which redneck bulletin board for militias, preppers or Fox Newscasters did you mean to post this to?

Seems to me we have the same problem with our politicians? Or did I read it wrong that you like yours and everybody in Ireland is "happy, happy, happy"?!

Pottler

So they're not "yours" then? Just "ours"??? Wut?? Ohh, you're a Yank. Ha. HAH. HHAAAH. Soo, alls well in Amerikayay then?? Edit, didn't red the OP, just saw it was a Yank and had a knee-jerk reaction. I suppose a Yank is better than a tug to a blind man.

Killer Wench

The Tea Party hit its peak in 2010. The movement caught the mainstream Republicans off guard, but in this last election, many of those Tea Party candidates have been voted out.

Cavehill Red

CollardGreens wrote: »

Seems to me we have the same problem with our politicians? Or did I read it wrong that you like yours and everybody in Ireland is "happy, happy, happy"?!

Seems to me that we still don't have Obamacare or tea parties here, and you cross-posted some redneck nonsense that doesn't apply this side of the sadly not quite wide enough Atlantic.

Chucken

CollardGreens wrote: »

Seems to me we have the same problem with our politicians? Or did I read it wrong that you like yours and everybody in Ireland is "happy, happy, happy"?!

We're happy as pigs in s**t

Killer Wench

CollardGreens wrote: »

Seems to me we have the same problem with our politicians? Or did I read it wrong that you like yours and everybody in Ireland is "happy, happy, happy"?!

You dislike our (as in fellow American) politicians so much that came to an Irish board to bitch about them?

CollardGreens

I don't know the point you're trying to make mate

I saw the thread about Marching on the 9th against the way the Irish politicians were screwing the people of Ireland. I was reading the Irish political thread and it is just like reading threads about what is going on in America. Seems to me we have the same problem, wouldn't you say?

Maybe y'all like your politicians taking all your money and not having jobs.....was just a guess that just maybe, we would be able to discuss this and help each other and not make smart ash remarks as some have, it is not helping the problem both countries have.

Cavehill Red

Ireland is not America.
Ireland's problems are not the same as America's problems.
Start from there.

Chucken

CollardGreens wrote: »

I saw the thread about Marching on the 9th against the way the Irish politicians were screwing the people of Ireland. I was reading the Irish political thread and it is just like reading threads about what is going on in America. Seems to me we have the same problem, wouldn't you say?

Maybe y'all like your politicians taking all your money and not having jobs.....was just a guess that just maybe, we would be able to discuss this and help each other and not make smart ash remarks as some have, it is not helping the problem both countries have.

Did you hear of Michael Lowry? Now theres a story for you!

CollardGreens

Oh Lord....I'm talking with children that are not even old enough to vote and never have voted, they only want to hold up signs because they don't have a job.

Yess sir ree, calling names will get you that high paying job!

CollardGreens

Ireland is not America.
Ireland's problems are not the same as America's problems.
Start from there.

This is where you are wrong! Yes, we do have the same problems ~ that is the point!

feargale

CollardGreens wrote: »

Most here in the states don't protest, only seems like the younger ones. We do try to vote the bad ones out...I'm one of those hated tea party members. When we have a person running for office we vet them, ask lots of questions. One I always ask is: Will you agree with term limits? NOT ONCE has one of them said yes. They have it easy the rest of their lives. NOT ONCE have I voted for any one of them that say they will not vote for term limits.

Term limits restrict and deny the people the right to choose.

Yes....the evil tea party wants to exercise their rights and find someone worth voting for. Do you think marching and holding up a sign will work better? Come back and let me know if it works and we will make signs too. If not, VET THEM AND VOTE THEM OUT!

Yeah. Try anything if the democratic process doesn't work for you. e.g. Sarah Palin will say anything to get elected.

IvySlayer

IvySlayer wrote: »

Didn't the American people vote for Obama knowing about his health care policies?

And Congress is in charge of the budget, not the President.

CollardGreens wrote: »

Oh Lord....I'm talking with children that are not even old enough to vote and never have voted, they only want to hold up signs because they don't have a job.

Yess sir ree, calling names will get you that high paying job!

Care to address my points above^^^^

Chucken

CollardGreens wrote: »

Oh Lord....I'm talking with children that are not even old enough to vote and never have voted, they only want to hold up signs because they don't have a job.

Yess sir ree, calling names will get you that high paying job!

Do you not get it? We have our own problems without getting yours too.

*Delighted to be called a child, the family were saying it was my advanced age*

Cavehill Red

CollardGreens wrote: »

This is where you are wrong! Yes, we do have the same problems ~ that is the point!

I think the point is that you got lost on the internet. Head back down that way, turn left at the we-sell-ammo online stores, past Rand Paul's home page, keep going until you see the how to make moonshine site, turn right there, keep going right, right again, when you get to the crossroads turn right and pass the Deliverance IMDB page, and you should be in the general vicinity of the political commentary boards you were looking for.

feargale

I met a tea party supporter two years ago. Boy was he aggressive! He claimed that the tea party name originated with the Boston Tea Party and their slogan " No taxation." He conveniently forgot to add two crucial words. The correct slogan of the Boston rioters was " No taxation without representation." There is a difference.

CollardGreens

@IvySlayer ~

Good question, Obamacare was not voted on by the people. It was congress that put it through. A lot of laws are no longer being voted for, just passed by executive orders. They do it for money, they don't care about what the people want after they are voted in.

The person that said something about Term Limits, I don't know if you have them with your politicians or not. We do and it's terrible, they get in then everything changes ~ they get paid off, money talks.

If some of you open your eyes and stop being so...so hateful, then you will see that across the pond the same thing is happening. This is not an Ireland or American problem, it is a problem happening in a lot of places.

frag420

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0WXhO_-e3bM

Chucken

CollardGreens wrote: »

@IvySlayer ~

Good question, Obamacare was not voted on by the people. It was congress that put it through. A lot of laws are no longer being voted for, just passed by executive orders. They do it for money, they don't care about what the people want after they are voted in.

The person that said something about Term Limits, I don't know if you have them with your politicians or not. We do and it's terrible, they get in then everything changes ~ they get paid off, money talks.

If some of you open your eyes and stop being so...so hateful, then you will see that across the pond the same thing is happening. This is not an Ireland or American problem, it is a problem happening in a lot of places.

Right then! I have only one question for you if you'd care to answer?

CollardGreens

@ Feargale: I met a tea party supporter two years ago.

That would be just like me saying that because there are a lot of boys being jerks to me here I need to think all here are mean.

I think there are some smart folks on this forum, I'm just having to pick through a few thorns, lol.



(@ Chucken, I'm still gonna put you and Moo on that taco, chicken and cow..)

Cavehill Red

When you can point out how the IMF/EU troika are requiring the United States to repay hundreds of billions of failed bank debts, then I'll accept that we have the same problems.
Otherwise, Cooter tells me that Boss Hogg has sent deppity Cletus to interrupt the moonshine run, so perhaps you and Uncle Jesse could get on the radio and tell the good ole boys to make a run for the county line.

syklops

CollardGreens wrote: »

Oh Lord....I'm talking with children that are not even old enough to vote and never have voted, they only want to hold up signs because they don't have a job.

Yess sir ree, calling names will get you that high paying job!

I have a job and I am old enough to vote. I'm old enough to buy "licker" too.

Im quite happy with our government. I disagree with their position on abortion, and the property tax has been handled badly and numerous other things, but they are doing ok in my book. Thanks to them I got a job in my home country and Im back and I can get my life back on track. The days of being negative are over. Despite what Joe Duffy would have you believe things are improving.

MadsL

Cavehill Red wrote: »

I think the point is that you got lost on the internet. Head back down that way, turn left at the we-sell-ammo online stores, past Rand Paul's home page, keep going until you see the how to make moonshine site, turn right there, keep going right, right again, when you get to the crossroads turn right and pass the Deliverance IMDB page, and you should be in the general vicinity of the political commentary boards you were looking for.

There are some further directions in this song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWTaCATq9FA

Although I do find boards funny. Criticise America to hell but woe betide an American commenting on Ireland. (looking at you Des Bishop!)

CollardGreens

Thank you MadsL! How did you know I LOVE me some Rascal Flatts!!!!

Cavehill Red

You'll probably like this a lot less, but it's no less pertinent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJRF8xGzvj4

CollardGreens

Ok, so you don't have a tea party. Call it something else, can't you organize something with the protesting people and invite the candidates running for office to a civil "meeting" and listen to them, ask them questions and then vote?

You can see the fear in these fellows eyes when they stand before the voters at these meetings. These candidates want your vote, they want your money. Holding up a sign hasn't worked before. Keep doing the same thing over and over, then you keep getting the same. We did get a lot of bad people out in 10' and we will do it again in 14'.

I believe I saw where one man was happy, so be it but a lot of you are raising cane on the Irish political forum, and the post here on AH about the protest. Doesn't seem like everybody is happy, happy, happy?!

IceFjoem

I'm concerned that the OP will invite his buddies here and gradually turn AH into an American message forum...

CollardGreens

@ Cavehill, I'm not looking at it ~ you have proven yourself to be mean.

@ IceFoam, I'm a she. I do have some "buddies" here, they are from Ireland and Oz.
My buddies in the states would have shot you by now, lol!

feargale

CollardGreens wrote: »

That would be just like me saying that because there are a lot of boys being jerks to me here I need to think all here are mean.

He wasn't a jerk, in fact he was quite personable when sober. He just had a political blind spot and had no social conscience. He would see poor people die rather than pay an extra cent of tax so that they could get some medical treatment. He was filthy rich. You seem to suggest that you are of moderate means. Too many Americans of moderate means are hoodwinked by wealthy, powerful people re various issues, the environment, social welfare, the Middle East etc.. When the moghuls have done for the dirt poor, next they will come for the middle classes. They want it all. We all hate tax. But the alternative is a paradise for the few and a jungle for the rest.

Chucken

CollardGreens wrote: »

@ Cavehill, I'm not looking at it ~ you have proven yourself to be mean.

@ IceFoam, I'm a she. I do have some "buddies" here, they are from Ireland and Oz.
My buddies in the states would have shot you by now, lol!

lol :rolleyes:

syklops

Perhaps legalising weed in Washington was a bad idea.

IceFjoem

CollardGreens wrote: »

@ Cavehill, I'm not looking at it ~ you have proven yourself to be mean.

@ IceFoam, I'm a she. I do have some "buddies" here, they are from Ireland and Oz.
My buddies in the states would have shot you by now, lol!

Wow...

Cavehill Red

CollardGreens wrote: »

I believe I saw where one man was happy, so be it but a lot of you are raising cane on the Irish political forum, and the post here on AH about the protest. Doesn't seem like everybody is happy, happy, happy?!

Raising cane: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Sugar_cane_madeira_hg.jpg

Raising Cain: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105217/

Still none the wiser.

Corkfeen

CollardGreens wrote: »

This is where you are wrong! Yes, we do have the same problems ~ that is the point!

You've read what people say on a forum about the Irish political system. The people who are posting have some knowledge of the Irish political system and the issues. One of the first steps towards drawing parallels requires you to educate yourself on how the Irish government operates so that you can recognise parallels. The Irish government are fearful of any change whatsoever in the system in case they upset their locals. It's taken them over 20 years to legislate on abortion for example.

The US government is slow on adapting but not to the same extent as here. Obamacare(For anyone that may have an interest, a reddit link that explains it) is mild in contrast to what is available in healthcare in most european countries. Personally, I love that I don't have to worry about the cost of treatment if I fall ill. There's no point in discussing this with you as you want to rabble rabble rabble about how you hate Obama and how awesome the south is.

Why not discuss this on a US politics forum rather than an Irish website where you are attempting to find vague parallels?

Boombastic

Will there be cake with the tea? One way merika could save money would be to stop invading other countries, but then ye wouldn't get the oil and other resources

CollardGreens

He wasn't a jerk, in fact he was quite personable when sober. He just had a political blind spot and had no social conscience. He would see poor people die rather than pay an extra cent of tax so that they could get some medical treatment. He was filthy rich. You seem to suggest that you are of moderate means. Too many Americans of moderate means are hoodwinked by wealthy, powerful people re various issues, the environment, social welfare, the Middle East etc.. When the moghuls have done for the dirt poor, next they will come for the middle classes. They want it all. We all hate tax. But the alternative is a paradise for the few and a jungle for the rest.

The part in bold, done this year.

(the first sentence, sounds like my ex husband, lol)

Chucken

Boombastic wrote: »

Will there be cake with the tea? One way merika could save money would be to stop invading other countries, but then ye wouldn't get the oil and other resources

WMDs lol

Cedrus

CollardGreens wrote: »

@ Cavehill, I'm not looking at it ~ you have proven yourself to be mean.

@ IceFoam, I'm a she. I do have some "buddies" here, they are from Ireland and Oz.
My buddies in the states would have shot you by now, lol!

LOL? LOL? LOL?
You have NO respect for gun deaths?

Get back under your rock fool!

CollardGreens

Will there be cake with the tea? One way merika could save money would be to stop invading other countries, but then ye wouldn't get the oil and other resources

We have tons of oil and coal on our own soil, the government has put so many regulations on it they can't drill or dig, there are too many loop holes and charges. We don't need the other resources if our own gov would get out of the way.

Our politicians are paid off by green energy "friends" like solondra, that went under the first year and took billions of tax payers money. The banks are getting the rest of our money because of political pay-offs.

IceFjoem

CollardGreens wrote: »

Quote:
He wasn't a jerk, in fact he was quite personable when sober. He just had a political blind spot and had no social conscience. He would see poor people die rather than pay an extra cent of tax so that they could get some medical treatment. He was filthy rich. You seem to suggest that you are of moderate means. Too many Americans of moderate means are hoodwinked by wealthy, powerful people re various issues, the environment, social welfare, the Middle East etc.. When the moghuls have done for the dirt poor, next they will come for the middle classes. They want it all. We all hate tax. But the alternative is a paradise for the few and a jungle for the rest.

The part in bold, done this year.

(the first sentence, sounds like my ex husband, lol)

Lik dis if u cryd evrytim xxx

Chucken

IceFjoem wrote: »

Lik dis if u cryd evrytim xxx

Will you stop, she'll think you're serious

Cavehill Red

CollardGreens wrote: »

We have tons of oil and coal on our own soil, the government has put so many regulations on it they can't drill or dig, there are too many loop holes and charges. We don't need the other resources if our own gov would get out of the way.

Our politicians are paid off by green energy "friends" like solondra, that went under the first year and took billions of tax payers money. The banks are getting the rest of our money because of political pay-offs.

Now it all makes sense.