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3 hour parking limit in West End Retail Park

  • 13-02-2013 7:33pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭


    Hadn't heard about this until today when Cllr. David McGuinness posted this on twitter https://twitter.com/CllrMcGuinness/status/301653518647963648/photo/1

    Free parking has always been a big lure to Blanchardstown Shopping Centre and although West End is owned by a different company I think this is a negative move.

    Personally I hate that car park, some real bottle necks and always way busier than it looks. But like many people I'm likely to park there, do my shopping there and then leave the car while I nip over to the centre, saves the hassle of moving it. 3 hours is not very long to do all that. If people have to move their cars then it's going to add to the congestion at the shopping centre which is bad enough as it is.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭Murt10


    athtrasna wrote: »
    [url]


    .... 3 hours is not very long ......


    3 hours is a lifetime to spend shopping. :D:D[/url]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    I love shopping. And I love the towncentre. But jeebs I'd be unlikely to be there over 3 hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭jeffk


    Three hours is loads , its not like the have started to charge(that would be a big mistake)
    Be handy if they had signs up to this effect also, over there today an I didn't see any.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    Three hours is fine if you know you have X,Y & Z to get and you know where to get them. It's not fine if you're comparing prices across a couple of stores or stuck for an idea for a present. God forbid you'd want to get a coffee or lunch too.

    I find the centre to be a bit of a black hole timewise, I pop over to get one or two things, allow 30 mins in my head and two hours later I'm still there. I'm sure I'm not alone in that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭jeffk


    athtrasna wrote: »
    Three hours is fine if you know you have X,Y & Z to get and you know where to get them. It's not fine if you're comparing prices across a couple of stores or stuck for an idea for a present. God forbid you'd want to get a coffee or lunch too.

    I find the centre to be a bit of a black hole timewise, I pop over to get one or two things, allow 30 mins in my head and two hours later I'm still there. I'm sure I'm not alone in that

    Park in the numerous non three hour limit car parks ? The one @ light etc is a two minute walk away.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 ShM


    Stupid idea...What if you have to park there for work and your shift is over 3 hours? An employer wont let you out too drive your car out and back in again?!?
    :mad::mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭Gate Automation


    It's happened because parking is permanently blocking for people who left the car and went to work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭jeffk


    It's happened because parking is permanently blocking for people who left the car and went to work.

    Do most/all staff that start first thing not park in the upper level of the multi story?


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    Only applies Monday-Friday, €120 clamp after 3 hours. It's an odd move but the piece says it is intended to discourage outside workers from parking there. At a (wild) guess I'd say it might be people who work in the places behind them on the Snugborough Road who might use it as a staff car park, can't think who else would need to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭Murt10


    I can see their point to be honest.

    You could park there and then walk to Coolmine Train Station. Bit of a hike I suppose, but given that the train will have you in Town in 20 mins, it would be worthwhile for some, especially if they work near the train or Dart lines. Anyway, the exercise would do you good.

    Also, you could park up there and walk across and get the 39 express or any of the other buses that stop at the Centre.

    Its cheaper than paying to park at the train station and it's certainly cheaper than parking in Town.

    If I was living somewhere not served by the bus I wanted, or any bus at all, I would definitely consider one of these options.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭dickwod1


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭Gaspode


    Keep it on topic please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,218 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    I get the move, after all its their carpark and its meant to be for customers. It's a business and private property after all. But is this only a threat to stop people who use it for free parking? or an actually intention to clamp people?

    Because don't tell me you wont have people parking by Argos (or what have you) doing a little shopping there and then spending a couple of hours in the centre. It would be messed up to have spent X amount of money and to be then clamped. Then going through a whole process to say you were doing X, Y, Z the whole time.

    Being honest this aint going to stop shit either way. Anyone who does use the Westend for free-parking is just going to park in either the Green, Blue, Red or Yellow carparks upon hearing this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭Gate Automation


    Rest car park it's open at 8, that is too late for people who left car and went to work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭ljcoolk


    I think Westend are doing this to stop Liberty staff from parking in the westend car park, they open the red entrance carpark after 9, multistory has security guard at the entrance.

    I dont work in Liberty but I personally think its unfair as their part of the centre its not the employees fault, some have no option but to drive, bad planning is at fault, Westend staff can park all day in the carpark a tad unfair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    3 hours is not a lot of time if going to see a movie or play or eating dinner along with your shopping.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    Saruman wrote: »
    3 hours is not a lot of time if going to see a movie or play or eating dinner along with your shopping.

    There are plenty of other car parks closer to Draíocht and the cinema and restaurants though. West End car park would be my last choice if I was driving for cinema or the theatre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭jeffk


    miamee wrote: »
    There are plenty of other car parks closer to Draíocht and the cinema and restaurants though. West End car park would be my last choice if I was driving for cinema or the theatre.

    saved me typing this out , you can park in any car park and walk to any part of the centre in about five minutes.

    plus if the weather is bad , id much rather park in the sheltered multi story an come in by M&S.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    My bad, I thought we were talking about a centre wide thing rather than just West end.

    If it's just West end then I know exactly why they are doing it.
    Ebay employees don't have enough car park spaces and many park in the West end overflow behind heatons. Parking in places that are not even car park spaces.
    I have seen people stuck because morons have parked in front of their car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭jeffk


    Saruman wrote: »
    My bad, I thought we were talking about a centre wide thing rather than just West end.

    If it's just West end then I know exactly why they are doing it.
    Ebay employees don't have enough car park spaces and many park in the West end overflow behind heatons. Parking in places that are not even car park spaces.
    I have seen people stuck because morons have parked in front of their car.

    Also the dole car park has about ten spaces and then inside the gate there are spaces free they don't let people use. So most of them end up in the overflow car-park as well.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 180 ✭✭markas


    excelent idea. first 30 min free would be better


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭cython


    ljcoolk wrote: »
    I think Westend are doing this to stop Liberty staff from parking in the westend car park, they open the red entrance carpark after 9, multistory has security guard at the entrance.

    I dont work in Liberty but I personally think its unfair as their part of the centre its not the employees fault, some have no option but to drive, bad planning is at fault, Westend staff can park all day in the carpark a tad unfair.

    Neither is it the fault nor responsibility of WestEnd to provide parking for employees of businesses whose facilities were not planned appropriately. Westend are a separate entity to much of the rest of the centre, and hence they have even less reason to accommodate such issues. I used to work in Coolmine Business Park, and we had a shortage of spaces allocated to our unit, but I didn't decide it was appropriate for me to go up to (what is now) Topaz and park there because their staff had no shortage. This is no different


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭anniehoo


    Does anyone know if its the same story for the carpark over where TK Maxx is?


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    Not that I am aware of and I walk through there regularly. Lots of people park there first thing in the morning. The shop end of the carpark is closed off until 9am so staff and 'park-and-ride' people who leave the car there to get the bus can't fill up the spaces near the shops. But no charge to park there (at the moment).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭BabysCoffee


    Are they going to clamp if you park for longer than 3 hrs?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 548 ✭✭✭Wils110


    They are going to clamp down more on people driving to the center parking and getting the bus to work and there damn right to...what west end is fed up of is people parking there side going to the main center doing there shopping and not spending a penny over the westend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭BabysCoffee


    Wils110 wrote: »
    They are going to clamp down more on people driving to the center parking and getting the bus to work and there damn right to...what west end is fed up of is people parking there side going to the main center doing there shopping and not spending a penny over the westend


    Are they going to clamp cars that are there for longer than 3 hrs?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 548 ✭✭✭Wils110


    Are they going to clamp cars that are there for longer than 3 hrs?

    Why not...you can't park at the drive thru in McDonald's for more then a hour without getting clamped


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 548 ✭✭✭Wils110


    At the end of the day people are abusing the centres free parking and it will be there fault when you have to pay a fiver to do your grocery shopping


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭chucknorris


    Wils110 wrote: »
    At the end of the day people are abusing the centres free parking and it will be there fault when you have to pay a fiver to do your grocery shopping

    Well, it's either free or it isn't. I wouldn't park in the center for more than Three hours myself, but many, many a woman would do Six without blinking :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭BabysCoffee


    Wils110 wrote: »

    Why not...you can't park at the drive thru in McDonald's for more then a hour without getting clamped


    I never said anything about clamping beingright or wrong. I asked if they were going to clamp cars who parked there for more than 3 hrs because
    1. I have not seen signs indicating clamping - are there any?
    2. I am wondering how they will regulate it.

    You seem very defensive about the whole thing. Do you have any involvement with the parking?

    It won't affect me because when I go to Lidl or any other shop there I tend to be less than 3 hrs. When Starbucks was open New Look, I would have easily spent more than 3 hrs in here though and so would have been parked that length in the car park too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 548 ✭✭✭Wils110




    I never said anything about clamping beingright or wrong. I asked if they were going to clamp cars who parked there for more than 3 hrs because
    1. I have not seen signs indicating clamping - are there any?
    2. I am wondering how they will regulate it.

    You seem very defensive about the whole thing. Do you have any involvement with the parking?

    It won't affect me because when I go to Lidl or any other shop there I tend to be less than 3 hrs. When Starbucks was open New Look, I would have easily spent more than 3 hrs in here though and so would have been parked that length in the car park too.
    If your not going to be there for 3 hours then there's no need to worry .

    Defensive or sick of people abusing something which could affect everyone in the long run maybe who is just doing there shopping or grabbing a coffee


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭BabysCoffee


    Wils110 wrote: »
    If your not going to be there for 3 hours then there's no need to worry .

    Defensive or sick of people abusing something which could affect everyone in the long run maybe who is just doing there shopping or grabbing a coffee


    But what if you are shopping there for more than 3 hours?

    It just seems unworkable to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 jmcturk


    It seems to be only in the overflow car park at rear of shops, havn't seen signs for 3 hour parking in the main carpark


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 548 ✭✭✭Wils110


    But what if you are shopping there for more than 3 hours?

    It just seems unworkable to me.

    Don't park at west end retail park


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭BabysCoffee


    Wils110 wrote: »

    Don't park at west end retail park


    What!!!

    Even if you are shopping in Westend you are suggesting that you are not allowed park there if you will be visiting the shops for more than 3 hours???!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 548 ✭✭✭Wils110


    What!!!

    Even if you are shopping in Westend you are suggesting that you are not allowed park there if you will be visiting the shops for more than 3 hours???!!!!

    Not me management


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭BabysCoffee


    Wils110 wrote: »

    Not me management


    Are management going to clamp cars if they stay longer than 3 hrs?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 548 ✭✭✭Wils110


    Read the link in the first post...clamped and.€120 release fee if there for over 3 hours

    This has being going on for awhile as well it's not that new


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭BabysCoffee


    Wils110 wrote: »
    Read the link in the first post...clamped and.€120 release fee if there for over 3 hours

    This has being going on for awhile as well it's not that new


    Thanks. I must look at the signs when I am there later.

    Seems like they are shooting themselves in the foot with their 3 hrs limit - surely they want shoppers to shop and park for more than 3hrs in Weekend.

    Why don't they just open the car park after 10am like the one beside the Library?. This would stop workers parking there.


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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    It's only Monday to Friday, you can park there as long as you like at the weekends. Opening later would be a good idea alright but I suppose they want their own staff and customers to be able to park there for 9am opening. And I assume Lidl open at 8am like other branches.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭Assassins Creed


    Murt10 wrote: »
    athtrasna wrote: »
    [url]


    .... 3 hours is not very long ......


    3 hours is a lifetime to spend shopping. :D:D[/url]

    Not for a woman Murt10, not for a woman:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,423 ✭✭✭fletch


    Wils110 wrote: »
    what west end is fed up of is people parking there side going to the main center doing there shopping and not spending a penny over the westend
    How will this stop people doing that. Tbh I always park in Westend if I am shopping in the Centre as it's the easiest car park to make a quick getaway from the Centre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭BabysCoffee


    fletch wrote: »
    How will this stop people doing that. Tbh I always park in Westend if I am shopping in the Centre as it's the easiest car park to make a quick getaway from the Centre.

    They should be looking at ways of incentivising people parking here and shopping in Weekend. This clamping business will lose them customers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 190 ✭✭Luttrell1975


    Organised parking where you can get access to Westend when you are a legit customer is incentive enough imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭BabysCoffee


    Now that Gap and Nike are here they really need to look at increasing the 3 hrs limit. I could easily spend over three hrs between the above two shops and Laura Ashley and Next. If they continue with this limit they will lose custom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭MusicalMelody


    I work here and haven't been told anything:confused:


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