Wireless IP Surveillance Camera - €38.77

rochestown

Looks like good value... can anyone confirm?

Wireless IP Surveillance Camera with Angle Control (Motion Detection, Night Vision, Free DDNS)

http://www.lightinthebox.com/ip-camera-wifi-802-11-b-g-m-jpeg-free-ddns-bounded-supprot-16-preset-position-motion-detection-black-white_p209046.html

bikerboy_ie

Hmmmm, Wan-SCAM!

CreepingDeath

It's a clone of the FosCam FI8918W or better FosCam FI8910W.

I've a Foscam FI8918W and it's grand.

Make sure you can turn off the IR LEDS, or else you won't be able to use it looking out the window at nighttime as the IR light with reflect back. (bad glare like the sun shining directly at it).

If you're using it to monitor a driveway or the like, don't expect much from 640x480 resolution, and it doesn't record anything.

My FosCam only sends 5 photos when it detects motion, but it's motion detect is sensitive to light changes, eg. sun going in/out behind the clouds. So you can get "spammed" by it, sending 50+ e-mails a day to you. I even had GMail temporarily stop my account for so much activity, but they reinstated it within an hour.

bri007

you will have to pay VAT on it when they come to deliver it,ups delivered it to me,had to pay 25 euro vat as I pourchased two. I bought one before christmas, still trying to figure out how to set it up

brightkane

did u get outdoor or indoor ones?

I am looking for 2 outdoor ones

Kevin!

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.ie/viewitem?itemId=120960789530


A little bit cheaper on ebay

bri007

brightkane wrote: »

did u get outdoor or indoor ones?

I am looking for 2 outdoor ones

I got both the Wanscam - Wireless Night Vision Outdoor IP Camera (Waterproof, IR 20M) and the Wanscam - Wireless IP Surveillance Camera with Angle Control (Motion Detection, Night Vision, Free DDNS). Too be honest I haven't tried very hard to set them up, hadnt the time, just tried it a few times on laptop, but my laptop isnt working the best so could be the reason why it wouldnt set up for me. I am going to try it on my main pc. The outdoor one seems good, just have to set it up. think i paid 40euro online for it, for the two,the whole lot came to 100 including the VAT,75 and 25 vat!I saw similar one in power city and it was 79 for the indoor one alone.so seems good deal.

brightkane

wheres did u purchase bri?

bri007

brightkane wrote: »

wheres did u purchase bri?

I got them from lightinthebox.com, check that one on ebay as well,as the other person mentioned,might get a better deal on it.

brightkane

cheers , thinking of going for 2 of these,

http://www.lightinthebox.com/mini-waterproof-wireless-night-vision-motion-detection-ip-camera_p237575.html

bri007

brightkane wrote: »

cheers , thinking of going for 2 of these,

http://www.lightinthebox.com/mini-waterproof-wireless-night-vision-motion-detection-ip-camera_p237575.html

ye it looks good,make sure to read the reivews on it and google it as well before you purchase it,just to be sure! for the price of them you cant go wrong, for what i got i was getting all sorts of crazy prices in the shops here for what i wanted,so im happy enough.just have to set them up:rolleyes:

keithclancy

If you want to setup recording Zoneminder is pretty good (and free):

http://www.zoneminder.com/screenshots

Just need a cheap linux box somewhere in the house, maybe that HP server that was going a while ago.

GarIT

I was looking to get one as the neighbours keep letting their dogs into our garden but mam insists that she heard it that it was illegal to put them up yourself on Joe Duffy, anyone know anything about that?

CreepingDeath

GarIT wrote: »

I was looking to get one as the neighbours keep letting their dogs into our garden but mam insists that she heard it that it was illegal to put them up yourself on Joe Duffy, anyone know anything about that?

You have every right to record anything on your own property.

I think it starts straying into a legal issue if your camera is recording your neighbours property. Not sure about public streets... but imagine they're fine as there's internet webcams all over the place.

eamonnq

CreepingDeath wrote: »

If you're using it to monitor a driveway or the like, don't expect much from 640x480 resolution, and it doesn't record anything.

Am fairly sure that the software that comes with it allows recording but you have to leave the computer with the software on it on all the time (or at least when you want it to record.

GalwayGaillimh

What do you think of the spec of this one from RF Concepts
Would it be any good for night time covering the drive from the porch?

Avermedia SF1301 1.3 Megapixel

Device
1/4 inch CMOS
Effective Pixels
1280 x 1024
Min. scence illumination
0.5 Lux
F/No
F2.8
Focus Length
f4.5mm
Compression
MPEG4/MJPEG dual format compression simultaneously
Multi-profile
Support 4 video streams simultaneously
Picture Resolution
1280x1024;1024x768;640x480;512x384;320x240;160x120
Bit Rate
IE browser- 900K, 1M, 1.25M, 1.5M, 1.75M, 2M
Mobile Video- 64K, 128K, 192K, 256K, 320K, 384K, 448K, 512K
Image Frame Rate
10 fps at 1280x1024 / 30 fps at 640x480
Black/White mode
Yes
Digital Zoom
16X
Mirror
Vertical mirror/ Horizontal mirror
Compression
AMR/ADPCM
Built-in Microphone
Sensitivity -42dB +/- 3dB (5 Meters distance min.); S/N Ratio: more than 58 dB; Directivity Omni-directional
Frequency Response
50~16000HZ
Audio Line Output
Output Line-out For external speaker
Pre-recording/
Post-recording
0~15 seconds/ 0~15 seconds
Overwrite
Enable/disable
Recording mode
Continuous/Event/Motion Detection
System Log
Up to 500 items stored in flash
Ethernet
Ethernet (10/100 Mbps Fast) , RJ-45 connector
Protocol
IPV4, ARP, TCP, UDP, ICMP,DHCP,NTP,DNS,DDNS,SMTP,FTP,HTTP,
Samba,PPPoE,UPnP,RTP,RTCP,RTSP
Auto-MDIX
Yes
3GPP
Audio codec/AMR
Video codec/MPEG4
Protocol/RTSP,RTP
WPS (WiFi Protected Setup)
No
Web Browser
IE 7.0/FireFox 2.0.7/Safari 3.2.2 or above
User account
Up to 20 users
Security
Password protection: configured by the administrator
Temperature and humidity
-15~60℃ (Storage), 90% humidity /
0~40℃(Operating),85% humidity
Power Consumption
6W (DC 5V)
Dimensions (WxHxD)
71mm x 44mm x 133mm
Weight
136 g (w/o bracket)
Indoor/Outdoor
Indoor
Bundled Accessory
Bracket

clint_silver

CreepingDeath wrote: »

You have every right to record anything on your own property.

I think it starts straying into a legal issue if your camera is recording your neighbours property. Not sure about public streets... but imagine they're fine as there's internet webcams all over the place.

I set mine up recently, cleared it the gards before doing so. You can record anything on your own property if you wish, once you start recording anything else (next door neighbour) it gets into data protection.

the rules around that are defined by data protection for a commercial premises that if youre recording for security/health and safety and dont use the images for anything else, then you're grand.

The commercial rules dont apply as well to residential though, its more a grey area. If a neighbour said I dont want you fliming any of my property they legally dont have much to stand on but Id try and accommodate. My neighbours are quite happy to have some of their property back and front covered with cams though.

I got 2 foscams off ebay for 130e. very happy. theres an iphone app called ipcam. access from anywhere. little bit of setting up but once it works its great

keithclancy

clint_silver wrote: »

The commercial rules dont apply as well to residential though, its more a grey area. If a neighbour said I dont want you fliming any of my property they legally dont have much to stand on but Id try and accommodate. My neighbours are quite happy to have some of their property back and front covered with cams though.

Basically .. don't be an a$$hole to your neighbours

gerryk

GarIT wrote: »

I was looking to get one as the neighbours keep letting their dogs into our garden but mam insists that she heard it that it was illegal to put them up yourself on Joe Duffy, anyone know anything about that?

I heard something about access control devices having to be fitted by a 'licensed' installer. To that I say "get f_cked... I will install what I like on my own property"

More here -> http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/WP12000262

clint_silver

gerryk wrote: »

I heard something about access control devices having to be fitted by a 'licensed' installer. To that I say "get f_cked... I will install what I like on my own property"

More here -> http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/WP12000262

not so sure that it meant that, Id read that to mean if you are getting a contractor they have to be licenced, not that it has to be a contractor only that can install it.

sort of like you can drive yourself home if you want but if youre getting a taxi, it has to be driven by a regulated taximan.


theyre fairly easy to install, hook it up to the router with a cable, install the software that comes with it on pc. open the software and it will discover the camera on your network. configure the camera with the software to connect over wifi to your router. disconnect cat 5 cable.
Now all you gotta do is wire it in. easiest way I found was to screw it in to the eaves under the gutter, drill a hole so pass cable up into attic, pass cable up taped to end of wire coat hanger, have someone up in the attic to pull it through, then run power to it whatever way you can. I drilled down into the nearest bedroom and pushed a socket up. couple of hours, tops.

tools
1 tall ladder
1 screwdriver/power drill
2 wire coat hangers straightened out to push cable through eaves
1 roll of tape to attach cable to coat hangers.
1 roll of electrical cable.



If you dont think the eaves will suffice, then you gotta drill through the house wall. drills and drillbits needed here.

randombar

What power do these things take? Have one of those security flashing lights and was thinking I could hijack the power of that maybe?

gerryk

clint_silver wrote: »

not so sure that it meant that, Id read that to mean if you are getting a contractor they have to be licenced, not that it has to be a contractor only that can install it.

sort of like you can drive yourself home if you want but if youre getting a taxi, it has to be driven by a regulated taximan.

Yup, you're right. No harm to have these things clarified, though. Here's the reply from the department responsible...

From 01 October 2012, any person who in the course of a business trade or
profession, provides installer of security equipment (CCTV) services is
required to be the holder of the relevant Private Security Services
Licence.

Based on the information you have provided, your CCTV system as described
appears not to fall into the category of installed in the course of a
business trade or profession, so therefore is not licensable activity.

It should be noted that the Private Security Authority in order to
determine who has installed CCTV systems, can under Section 13(1) of the
Private Security Services Acts 2004 & 2011, investigate any security
services being provided by any person.

If you still require any information please contact me and I will gladly
assist.

bmm

GalwayGaillimh wrote: »

What do you think of the spec of this one from RF Concepts
Would it be any good for night time covering the drive from the porch?

Avermedia SF1301 1.3 Megapixel

Not wireless though .

clint_silver

bmm wrote: »

Not wireless though .

and specifically says indoor.

and its 2-3 times the price of other cameras that will do mostly the same job from.

wifi is to save cabling. unless youve got a willing electrician/cabnling handyman in the family, strongly suggest gettting a camera with wifi, they available for 40-60e.

Note: If you want to monitor outdoors, you have to mount the camera outdoors. Reason: if its indoor looking out the Infra red bounces back off the window and you just get a huge glare on your monitor.

you could get an motion sensor 35w-50w LED flood light, if that goes off, youll have enough illumination so that the camera wont need to engage IR.

bmm

Outdoor Wanscam model without the hassle of customs + vat etc.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wireless-WIFI-IP-Camera-IR-Network-Nightvision-Outdoor-Waterproof-UK-/150969795723

+3.50 euro postage with parcel motel

eamonnq

bmm wrote: »

Outdoor Wanscam model without the hassle of customs + vat etc.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wireless-WIFI-IP-Camera-IR-Network-Nightvision-Outdoor-Waterproof-UK-/150969795723

+3.50 euro postage with parcel motel

Maybe not quite as it appears:

Small print from the listing

1. We accept payment via PAYPAL ONLY.
2. Payment must be made within 4 days of auction closing.
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and seller information:

Xue Li
4/F, No.A3 Building HeKan Industrial Park, Bantian, LongGang
518129 Shenzhen, 广东省
中國

GalwayGaillimh

bmm wrote: »

Not wireless though .

With street lighting is .5 of a Lux good enough to get a decent image without infrared?

clint_silver

GalwayGaillimh wrote: »

With street lighting is .5 of a Lux good enough to get a decent image without infrared?

Its totally dependent on the quality on the LED.

I robbed this off an ebay page so excuse the caps but as good an explanation as any...

WHAT IS THE CAMERAS LUX RATING AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN?

THE AMOUNT OF LIGHT IS DEFINED BY LUX (LUMENS PER SQUARE METER) ONE LUX IS THE AMOUNT OF LIGHT CAST BY ONE CANDLE AT ONE METERS SPACE. HERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF NATURAL LIGHT SOURCES EXPRESSED IN LUX

NATURAL LUX EXAMPLES

DAYLIGHT 10,000 LUX

CLOUDY 100 LUX

TWILIGHT 10 LUX

DUSK 1 LUX

FULL MOON .1 LUX

QUARTER MOON .O1 LUX

COMPLETE DARK O LUX

SOME HIGH QUALITY SONY CCDS CAN HAVE A GOOD PICTURE DOWN TO .1 LUX ANYTHING BELOW THAT THEY WILL REQUIRE INFRA-RED LED’S TO SEE IN THE DARK THESE ARE CALLED NIGHT VISION OR IR CAMERAS. IN THE CAMERA SPECS THEY WILL LIST THE AMOUNT OF LED’S WHICH PEOPLE TEND TO USE TO COMPARE LOW LIGHT PERFORMANCE. ACTUALLY THE TYPE OF LED IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE QUANTITY OF LED’S SOME LEDS PRODUCE 10 TIMES MORE LIGHT THAN OTHER LED’S.WHILE OTHERS ARE MADE SO THE NAKED EYE CAN’T SEE THE LIGHT BEING EMITTED FROM THEM MAKING THESE BETTER FOR COVERT USE.COMPARING THE AMOUNT OF FEET THE CAMERA ILLUMINATES AND HOW WIDE THE LIGHT SPREADS IS THE ONLY TRUE WAY TO COMPARE IR CAMERAS.

THE OTHER MISTAKE PEOPLE MAKE IS COMPARING A NON IR CAMERAS LUX RATING TO A IR CAMERAS LUX RATING. IN LOW LIGHT AN IR CAMERAS LED’S TURN ON AND THE CAMERA CAN SEE AS MUCH AS THE LED IR’S ILLUMINATE. NORMALLY IN A CHEAP CMOS CAMERA A VAGUE IMAGE IS SEEN OUT TO ABOUT 10 FEET. THIS GIVES THE CAMERA A O LUX RATING BECAUSE IT CAN SEE IN COMPLETE DARKNESS BUT ONLY OUT TO ABOUT 10 FEET. A NON IR CAMERAS RATING IS BASED ON WHAT IT CAN SEE EVERYWHERE NOT JUST WHAT THE IR’S LIGHT UP AS ON A IR CAMERA. THE TWO RATING CAN NOT BE COMPARED. IN ACTUALITY THE A CHEAP CMOS CAMERAS LUX RATING IS AROUND 10 LUX WITHOUT THE IR’S ON. THIS MEANS THAT THE SONY CCD CAMERA WITH A .1 LUX RATING ON A NIGHT WITH A FULL MOON WILL SEE HUNDERDS OF FEET AWAY WHILE THE IR CAMERA WILL ONLY SEE WHAT ITS IR’S ILLUMINATE WHICH IS ONLY ABOUT 10 FEET AWAY. ONLY WHEN IT BECOMES COMPLETE PITCH BLACK DOES THE IR CAMERA SEE MORE BECAUSE THE SONY CCD CAMERA CAN’T SEE IN COMPLETE DARKNESS BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT NOR CAN A CRIMINAL EITHER.

THE CHEAPEST WAY TO SOLVE THE LOW LIGHT PROBLEM IS BY INSTALLING A MOTION SENSOR LIGHT. NOT ONLY DOES IT LIGHT UP THE AREA BUT ALSO SCARES AWAY INTRUDERS. IT ALSO NEEDS TO BE SAID THAT THESE HIGH OUTPUT IR CAMRAS PUT A LOT OF STRAIN ON THE CAMERA POWER SUPPLIES . WHICH WERE DESIGNED TO POWER CAMERAS NOT TO LIGHT UP PARKING LOTS. THAT BEING SAID WE HAVE TWO GREAT HIGH POWER SONY CCD NIGHT VISION CAMERAS THAT WE DO SELL WITH 200 TO 380 FT ILUMINATION.

Trotter

Hi all, I bought one of these (TCL - JPT3815W) during the week and Ive spent the day trying to set it up with no joy.

Could anyone who knows how to get this going maybe have a look at the following thread? I'd appreciate it!

Problem setting up wireless IP Camera