Womens 6 nations - Bandwagon Thread

Shock score 25-0 win for Ireland over World Champions England. With Ireland having beaten Wales last weekend and France having lost away to Italy they have a good chance of claiming a historic championship. Major strides being made in the last few years but this is still a massive surprise. Let's hope they can keep it going for the rest of the campaign.

Lets hope for the clean sweep tomorrow:D

Fishooks13

Great win. To put it in perspective, that England womens team have only been beaten something like once in 5 championships

eyeball kid

Great result for them. Presumably England were big favourites for this?
Clubs yesterday, Women's team today. Hopefully that trend continues tomorrow.

WorldRugby99

Fishooks13 wrote: »

Great win. To put it in perspective, that England womens team have only been beaten something like once in 5 championships

in fairness,as someone who follows womens rugby,england rightly or wrongly have decided to focus on winning the sevens world cup this year and so 17 front line players have moved from their 15 a side team to the seven a side team(and won last weeks houston sevens).
So while its a good ireland win and makes them favourites to win this year,it cant be forgotten its pretty much an England 2ndXV this year,not the same squad who beat NZ 3-0 last autumn.

.ak

WorldRugby99 wrote: »

in fairness,as someone who follows womens rugby,england rightly or wrongly have decided to focus on winning the sevens world cup this year and so 17 front line players have moved from their 15 a side team to the seven a side team(and won last weeks houston sevens).
So while its a good ireland win and makes them favourites to win this year,it cant be forgotten its pretty much an England 2ndXV this year,not the same squad who beat NZ 3-0 last autumn.

Still a hammering though, 2nd team or no.

WorldRugby99

.ak wrote: »

Still a hammering though, 2nd team or no.

yes,but it doesnt mean as much though does it? england are the best womens side at the moment. Ireland didnt beat that side,they beat the reserves. If you win something you always want to feel you are the best and have beaten the best-well i do anyway!

KERSPLAT!

Can only beat what's infront of you

JustinDee

WorldRugby99 wrote: »

in fairness,as someone who follows womens rugby,england rightly or wrongly have decided to focus on winning the sevens world cup this year and so 17 front line players have moved from their 15 a side team to the seven a side team(and won last weeks houston sevens).
So while its a good ireland win and makes them favourites to win this year,it cant be forgotten its pretty much an England 2ndXV this year,not the same squad who beat NZ 3-0 last autumn.

They dispatched a semi-pro England side that put 70 on their previous opposition. Nothing takes that away. Very few gave Ireland a chance. Well done and more of the same please.

Stheno

Great win, well done to them.

BBC headline is "England thrashed by Ireland"

Hersheys

Delighted for all the girls but in particular for Fi Coughlan, Joy Neville & Briggsy who would have been the wrong end of similar scores against England. I remember being at the similar fixture 11 years ago when England trounced Ireland 79-0. This is a major turning point for Ireland, some great self belief in this team.

Big ups to the IRFU for streaming the game too.

And let me tell ya having played against some of those "second string" English girls there is nothing easy about them!!

gcgirl

WorldRugby99 wrote: »

in fairness,as someone who follows womens rugby,england rightly or wrongly have decided to focus on winning the sevens world cup this year and so 17 front line players have moved from their 15 a side team to the seven a side team(and won last weeks houston sevens).
So while its a good ireland win and makes them favourites to win this year,it cant be forgotten its pretty much an England 2ndXV this year,not the same squad who beat NZ 3-0 last autumn.

Oh What was the score last weekend for England ?
They're still no matter what way you put it semi pro, which in our case the girls have jobs to do along with the usual training, Along with a few Gaa commitments you can't really compare the 2, I was up in St Marys a few years back we were basically beating them with 10 mins to go and they scored 2 trys to win in those 10 mins
Gwan The Irish

irishbucsfan

Didn't a few of the sevens girls come back into the lineup this week?

Stheno

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Didn't a few of the sevens girls come back into the lineup this week?

Yeah think they brought eight back? Was reading it on the bbc site.

dzer2

Ah Lads where are the pics

irishbucsfan

Stheno wrote: »

Yeah think they brought eight back? Was reading it on the bbc site.

I just compared the teams to last year. Very similar packs and I think two girls in the backs the same.

I think about 6/7 changes overall. Hard to say how many of them are down to the 7s and how many are down to form. I think a few of their girls who played in the backs (Scatmore and Richardson) are definitely because of the 7s. Don't know how many of the forwards were down there.

I'm absolutely delighted and I don't accept the 7s is the who,e difference between the sides.

Well done Ireland!

Hersheys

The Irish ladies have the beating of the rest of the teams they are due to face.

If anyone has even a passing interest in womens rugby I would urge them to go out and support the girls in Ashbourne when France come to visit.

WorldRugby99

Stheno wrote: »

Yeah think they brought eight back? Was reading it on the bbc site.

Engladn team that beat NEW zealand in autumn (copied from bbc)
England team to face New Zealand: 15 Emily Scarratt (Lichfield); 14 Katherine Merchant (Worcester), 13 Joanne Watmore (Worcester), 12 Alice Richardson (Richmond), 11 Michaela Staniford (Wasps); 10 Katy McLean (Darlington Mowden Park Sharks, capt), 9 Natasha Hunt (Lichfield); 1 Roz Crowley (Lichfield), 2 Victoria Fleetwood (Lichfield), 3 Laura Keates (Worcester), 4 Tamara Taylor (Lichfield), 5 Rowena Burnfield (Richmond), 6 Heather Fisher (Worcester), 7 Marlie Packer (Bristol), 8 Sarah Hunter (Lichfield).

England team today
15kay wilson 14francesca matthews 13abigail chamberlain12amber reed
11sally tuson10ceri large 9latoya mason 8sarah hunter7hannah gallagher
6jo gilchrist5tamara taylor4rowena burnfield3sophie hemming2victoria fleetwood1rochelle clark

sorry to make the point as a couple on here trying to rubbish what i said-entire backline is different,both props different(they cant be playing sevens surely!),and 2 back rowers.
also throw in 2 of the best womens players in world rugby who were injured in autumn- full back danielle waterman and flanker maggie alphonsi who are with england sevens too-it is virtually a 2nd XV that the team beat today.So while a good win,lets not carried away as people on here usually do!

mfceiling

Fair play to them.

Met the coach phillip doyle on a job this time last year. What a sound man. Yapped away to him for ages about the ireland team, the set up and where he thought the women's team was headed.

Hersheys

WorldRugby99 wrote: »

Engladn team that beat NEW zealand in autumn (copied from bbc)
England team to face New Zealand: 15 Emily Scarratt (Lichfield); 14 Katherine Merchant (Worcester), 13 Joanne Watmore (Worcester), 12 Alice Richardson (Richmond), 11 Michaela Staniford (Wasps); 10 Katy McLean (Darlington Mowden Park Sharks, capt), 9 Natasha Hunt (Lichfield); 1 Roz Crowley (Lichfield), 2 Victoria Fleetwood (Lichfield), 3 Laura Keates (Worcester), 4 Tamara Taylor (Lichfield), 5 Rowena Burnfield (Richmond), 6 Heather Fisher (Worcester), 7 Marlie Packer (Bristol), 8 Sarah Hunter (Lichfield).

England team today
15kay wilson 14francesca matthews 13abigail chamberlain12amber reed
11sally tuson10ceri large 9latoya mason 8sarah hunter7hannah gallagher
6jo gilchrist5tamara taylor4rowena burnfield3sophie hemming2victoria fleetwood1rochelle clark

sorry to make the point as a couple on here trying to rubbish what i said-entire backline is different,both props different(they cant be playing sevens surely!),and 2 back rowers.
also throw in 2 of the best womens players in world rugby who were injured in autumn- full back danielle waterman and flanker maggie alphonsi who are with england sevens too-it is virtually a 2nd XV that the team beat today.So while a good win,lets not carried away as people on here usually do!

Yes but Ireland had new players this year too. I'm not trying to take away from your point but please can we not just be happy for the girls? I'm sure if the gods align tomorrow and we beat the English men we won't have people saying "ah but it was practically a second string side site tuilangi wasn't playing" or whatever - you beat the team that's in front of you and that is what the girls in green did today.

And I couldn't be more proud of them.

JustinDee

WorldRugby99 wrote: »

Engladn team that beat NEW zealand in autumn (copied from bbc)
England team to face New Zealand: 15 Emily Scarratt (Lichfield); 14 Katherine Merchant (Worcester), 13 Joanne Watmore (Worcester), 12 Alice Richardson (Richmond), 11 Michaela Staniford (Wasps); 10 Katy McLean (Darlington Mowden Park Sharks, capt), 9 Natasha Hunt (Lichfield); 1 Roz Crowley (Lichfield), 2 Victoria Fleetwood (Lichfield), 3 Laura Keates (Worcester), 4 Tamara Taylor (Lichfield), 5 Rowena Burnfield (Richmond), 6 Heather Fisher (Worcester), 7 Marlie Packer (Bristol), 8 Sarah Hunter (Lichfield).

England team today
15kay wilson 14francesca matthews 13abigail chamberlain12amber reed
11sally tuson10ceri large 9latoya mason 8sarah hunter7hannah gallagher
6jo gilchrist5tamara taylor4rowena burnfield3sophie hemming2victoria fleetwood1rochelle clark

sorry to make the point as a couple on here trying to rubbish what i said-entire backline is different,both props different(they cant be playing sevens surely!),and 2 back rowers.
also throw in 2 of the best womens players in world rugby who were injured in autumn- full back danielle waterman and flanker maggie alphonsi who are with england sevens too-it is virtually a 2nd XV that the team beat today.So while a good win,lets not carried away as people on here usually do!

Maybe they should just doff caps and bow instead? What's the point in running women's 6n this year at all if England aren't going to field a full side, eh?
Ffs.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Rugby like most sports is a man's game as we know. However fair play to these women, they've obviously gotten over the Spain incident and progressed. I have to say that's admirable.

racso1975

http://thescore.thejournal.ie/ireland-womens-rugby-england-victory-789440-Feb2013/#slide-slideshow1

Hersheys

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Rugby like most sports is a man's game as we know. However fair play to these women, they've obviously gotten over the Spain incident and progressed. I have to say that's admirable.

Sexist much? :rolleyes:

The girls did a great job yesterday & should be commended.

Fishooks13

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Rugby like most sports is a man's game as we know. .

Rugby is a game for Men, Women and Children

fanki na pengin

I'd imagine it was a reference to the overbearing popularity of the male teams.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Hersheys wrote: »

Sexist much? :rolleyes:

The girls did a great job yesterday & should be commended.

How dare you accuse me of being a sexist, I'm merely stating facts, you know as well as I do that Women's rugby is entirely irrelevant. That doesn't mean we can't support these girls. See you'll patronise them and I'll tell them the truth.

Fishooks13

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

How dare you accuse me of being a sexist I'm merely stating facts, you know as well as I do that Women's rugby is entirely irrelevant. That doesn't mean we can't support these girls also. See you'll patronise them and I'll tell them the truth.

There are 70 womens rugby teams in Ireland. That right there tells you all the facts you need to know. Rugby is not just a mans game

Hersheys

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

How dare you accuse me of being a sexist, I'm merely stating facts, you know as well as I do that Women's rugby is entirely irrelevant. That doesn't mean we can't support these girls. See you'll patronise them and I'll tell them the truth.

As a woman who plays rugby I don't find the sport in any way irrelevant.

And I believe you are sexist based on your opinion that the sport is irrelevant when it has such an up-and-coming profile in Ireland and the world.

desertcircus

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

How dare you accuse me of being a sexist, I'm merely stating facts, you know as well as I do that Women's rugby is entirely irrelevant. That doesn't mean we can't support these girls. See you'll patronise them and I'll tell them the truth.

All sport is entirely irrelevant. Pretending relevance is contingent on gender is sexist, unless you're using a completely different definition of the word.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Hersheys wrote: »

As a woman who plays rugby I don't find the sport in any way irrelevant.

And I believe you are sexist based on your opinion that the sport is irrelevant when it has such an up-and-coming profile in Ireland and the world.

I'm being truthful here not sexist, nobody really cares about the women teams. I heard there was a great ladies side out of Roscrea Club recently but nobody goes out to watch their games. That's sport, its male dominated and it always will be.

Fishooks13

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I'm being truthful here not sexist, nobody really cares about the women teams. I heard there was a great ladies side out of Roscrea Club recently but nobody goes out to watch their games. That's sport, its male dominated and it always will be.

That's such an ignorant post.

And yes, you're being completely sexist. Have you been to women's club games to say that no one goes to see them? Because you're wrong

Hersheys

Our team REGULARLY gets more support than our men's team

DEFTLEFTHAND

Hersheys wrote: »

Our team REGULARLY gets more support than our men's team

What club do you play for? I'm not trying to come across as an asshole here but I don't believe a women's team could draw a bigger crowd than the male first team.

Fishooks13

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

What club do you play for? I'm not trying to come across as an asshole here but I don't believe a women's team could draw a bigger crowd than the male first team.

ffs it's not even about who gets a bigger crowd. There are hundreds of woman across Ireland playing and enjoying rugby. Therefore, it's not just a mans game like you have ignorantly proclaimed

Felexicon

WorldRugby99 wrote: »

Engladn team that beat NEW zealand in autumn (copied from bbc)
England team to face New Zealand: 15 Emily Scarratt (Lichfield); 14 Katherine Merchant (Worcester), 13 Joanne Watmore (Worcester), 12 Alice Richardson (Richmond), 11 Michaela Staniford (Wasps); 10 Katy McLean (Darlington Mowden Park Sharks, capt), 9 Natasha Hunt (Lichfield); 1 Roz Crowley (Lichfield), 2 Victoria Fleetwood (Lichfield), 3 Laura Keates (Worcester), 4 Tamara Taylor (Lichfield), 5 Rowena Burnfield (Richmond), 6 Heather Fisher (Worcester), 7 Marlie Packer (Bristol), 8 Sarah Hunter (Lichfield).

England team today
15kay wilson 14francesca matthews 13abigail chamberlain12amber reed
11sally tuson10ceri large 9latoya mason 8sarah hunter7hannah gallagher
6jo gilchrist5tamara taylor4rowena burnfield3sophie hemming2victoria fleetwood1rochelle clark

sorry to make the point as a couple on here trying to rubbish what i said-entire backline is different,both props different(they cant be playing sevens surely!),and 2 back rowers.
also throw in 2 of the best womens players in world rugby who were injured in autumn- full back danielle waterman and flanker maggie alphonsi who are with england sevens too-it is virtually a 2nd XV that the team beat today.So while a good win,lets not carried away as people on here usually do!

Jesus fúcking Christ. Captain Negathron is alive and well.

Hersheys

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

What club do you play for? I'm not trying to come across as an asshole here but I don't believe a women's team could draw a bigger crowd than the male first team.

Well believe!

Micky Dolenz

A great win. You put out the best team available to you. This happened here and England got a sound thrashing.

Lets hope their male counterparts do the business later.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Fishooks13 wrote: »

ffs it's not even about who gets a bigger crowd. There are hundreds of woman across Ireland playing and enjoying rugby. Therefore, it's not just a mans game like you have ignorantly proclaimed

I never said women can't play it, it's great that they do I've watched the Roscrea ladies play and I've encouraged them. The fact of the matter remains that its a side act and small time. That's not sexist it's the truth. You know that but just won't admit it.

Fishooks13

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I never said women can't play it, it's great that they do I've watched the Roscrea ladies play and I've encouraged them. The fact of the matter remains that its a side act and small time. That's not sexist it's the truth. You know that but just won't admit it.

:rolleyes:

I don't think anyone can argue that men's rugby is more popular, but you said:

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Rugby like most sports is a man's game as we know..

This is horse**** and very sexist.

KERSPLAT!

Your worse for taking the bait

DEFTLEFTHAND

Fishooks13 wrote: »

:rolleyes:

I don't think anyone can argue that men's rugby is more popular, but you said:




This is horse**** and very sexist.

It is a man's game, where's the money at? What's you're problem I've only spoke the truth here, the women's game doesn't feature. I'm sorry my friend but that's the truth. That doesn't mean they can't play it, they're perfectly entitled to do so. It's just that nobody wants to watch it.

Fishooks13

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

It is a man's game, where's the money at? What's you're problem I've only spoke the truth here, the women's game doesn't feature. I'm sorry my friend but that's the truth. That doesn't mean they can't play it, they're perfectly entitled to do so. It's just that nobody wants to watch it.

No, if it was a mans game only men would play it. Woman's rugby is hugely popular, nothing to do with money.

Anyway I'm done.

Deano7788

Why the hell can't we just congratulate the team on a fantastic achievement without throwing in some crappy qualifying remark? Why is there a need for the negativity?


And if we're going to judge a sport based on popularity then every sport bar soccer might as well not bother as they're all just small time in comparison.

In conclusion, well done to the team on a fantastic achievement.

dzer2

Leave the troll alone head stuck up arse

Felexicon

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I never said women can't play it, it's great that they do I've watched the Roscrea ladies play and I've encouraged them. The fact of the matter remains that its a side act and small time. That's not sexist it's the truth. You know that but just won't admit it.

Obvious troll is obvious.

Must try harder in future mate

DEFTLEFTHAND

Felexicon wrote: »

Obvious troll is obvious.

Must try harder in future mate

I'm not trolling I'm just expressing my opinion. I thought this board is about debate. Maybe I should have been more sensitive. I didn't mean to offend I know my views are controversial.

Cypher_sounds

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I never said women can't play it, it's great that they do I've watched the Roscrea ladies play and I've encouraged them. The fact of the matter remains that its a side act and small time. That's not sexist it's the truth. You know that but just won't admit it.

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

It is a man's game, where's the money at? What's you're problem I've only spoke the truth here, the women's game doesn't feature. I'm sorry my friend but that's the truth. That doesn't mean they can't play it, they're perfectly entitled to do so. It's just that nobody wants to watch it.

Kind of odd that you are calling yourself a nobody.

Many posters here have expressed interest in the women's game. I myself know that their is great interest in the local women's rugby team and they have good support at their matches.

Congrats to the Irish women's rugby squad, great win powerful stuff. Results like this are sure to help it grow across the country.

Felexicon

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I'm not trolling I'm just expressing my opinion. I thought this board is about debate. Maybe I should have been more sensitive. I didn't mean to offend I know my views are controversial.

OK.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Right ok I just expressed an opinion, I didn't expect so many white knights to get involved even though deep down they probably agree with me. If I insulted anybody I apologise, I like to speak freely.

Felexicon

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Right ok I just expressed an opinion, I didn't expect so many white knights to get involved even though deep down they probably agree with me. If I insulted anybody I apologise, I like to speak freely.

OK

DEFTLEFTHAND

Felexicon wrote: »

OK

Whatever mate.