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Match fixing report out

  • 04-02-2013 11:34AM
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    Europol investigation which has been under way for some years is reporting this morning, details to follow.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭Pinturicchio


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21319807
    Match-fixing: Champions League tie played in England 'was fixed'

    A Champions League tie played in England is one of 380 matches across Europe investigators say was fixed.

    European police did not reveal the identity of the match they believe was corrupt in England.

    But Europol did say that they had uncovered an organised crime syndicate based in Asia that was co-ordinating the operation.

    Some 425 match officials, club officials, players and criminals are suspected of being involved.

    Europol, which has been investigating for 18 months, said suspected matches included World Cup and European Championship qualifiers, two Champions League ties and "several top football matches in European leagues".

    Criminals wagered 16m euros on rigged matches and made eight million Euros in profits, Europol say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,369 ✭✭✭LostBoy101


    Just looking on social networks like Facebook and Twitter and the ABUs are out in force hoping United is involved. It makes me lol from a United supporters point of view. I heard one say "I hope United get their titles stripped" :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,088 ✭✭✭Pacing Mule


    Why not reveal the identity of the matches they believed fixed ? I'm intrigued by the "champions league tie played in England" line. What UK team would be involved (although that could also imply a final held in the UK was suspect)

    When are we likely to hear which match they suspect ?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,951 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Sure lads, it's all as fake as pro-wrestling. Everyone has maintained kayfabe for decades now, but in ten years time, everyone who watches football will be constantly reminded how it isn't real...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Peppa Pig


    Does it have to be the result that was fixed - can it not be something more mundane as to who got the first throw etc. I thought a lot of those Asian syndicates went in for that. Much easier to fix as well.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Sure lads, it's all as fake as pro-wrestling. Everyone has maintained kayfabe for decades now, but in ten years time, everyone who watches football will be constantly reminded how it isn't real...

    And Messi refuses to job to Ronaldo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    LostBoy101 wrote: »
    Just looking on social networks like Facebook and Twitter and the ABUs are out in force hoping United is involved. It makes me lol from a United supporters point of view. I heard one say "I hope United get their titles stripped" :rolleyes:

    so predictable too :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    a bit more
    They said that criminals put €16m on rigged matches and made €8m in profits. Payments of €2m are thought to have been paid to those involved, while investigators said that the biggest payment to an individual was €140,000.

    Europol believes a crime syndicate based in Asia was liaising with criminal networks throughout Europe. It believes match-fixing has taken place in 15 countries and 50 people have so far been arrested. Officials said they feared this was the "tip of the iceberg".

    "This is the work of a suspected organised crime syndicate based in Asia and operated with criminal networks around Europe," Rob Wainwright, the director of Europol, said.

    "It is clear to us this is the biggest-ever investigation into suspected match-fixing in Europe. It has yielded major results which we think have uncovered a big problem for the integrity of football in Europe. We have uncovered an extensive criminal network.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭roanoke


    Sure lads, it's all as fake as pro-wrestling. Everyone has maintained kayfabe for decades now, but in ten years time, everyone who watches football will be constantly reminded how it isn't real...

    Makes sense. Man U seem to have more late comebacks than Hulk Hogan. :)


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,255 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    Why not reveal the identity of the matches they believed fixed ? I'm intrigued by the "champions league tie played in England" line. What UK team would be involved (although that could also imply a final held in the UK was suspect)

    When are we likely to hear which match they suspect ?

    It might have nothing to do with the English team involved.

    Very interesting to see who was involved.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    LostBoy101 wrote: »
    Just looking on social networks like Facebook and Twitter and the ABUs are out in force hoping United is involved. It makes me lol from a United supporters point of view. I heard one say "I hope United get their titles stripped" :rolleyes:

    That anyone would listen to these gobsh*tes is the bigger worry, imo.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,255 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    roanoke wrote: »
    Makes sense. Man U seem to have more late comebacks than Hulk Hogan.

    Yes, because they are winners.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,963 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Why not reveal the identity of the matches they believed fixed ? I'm intrigued by the "champions league tie played in England" line. What UK team would be involved (although that could also imply a final held in the UK was suspect)

    When are we likely to hear which match they suspect ?
    Has to be the Chelsea v Nordsjaelland game surely? Torres scoring? Twice? It's like they are not even trying to cover their tracks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭roanoke


    FutureGuy wrote: »
    Yes, because they are winners.

    To all my little Fergiemaniacs, say your prayers, take your vitamins and you will never go wrong.


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    I'd seriously doubt any of the English teams players would get involved for what is pretty much just 3 weeks wages post tax for most of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭roanoke


    Out of interest which UEFA leagues/countries currently have the worst track for match fixing?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    With the money supposedly involved you can pretty much guarantee there will be no big name teams or players involved. You can get your hopes back down folks :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,000 ✭✭✭mitosis


    I dunno, but the Italians have the best record for catching them ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,294 ✭✭✭LiamoSail


    I would think the Europa lge is more susceptible to match fixing then the champions lge given an unexpected defeat in the Europa lge can be put down to not taking the competition seriously, while fielding a weakened side, particularly in the group stages is often seen as the norm

    I think it'd be foolish to think that match fixing and doping aren't a serious issue in football, particularly with the level of money involved and the relatively lax attitude to drug testing. Juve and moggi were found to have cheated, there's the financial doping scandal at rangers, while arsene wenger has spoken of players coming in for Europe showing signs of having doped and wasn't it mike newel who alleged corruption in transfer dealings to be rife?

    As for the CL game that was fixed in England, I'd be guessing it was the foreign opposition that threw the game without the knowledge of the English team. There's that much money in English football, that it would probably cost more to buy the highly paid EPL players/manager then it would to buy a Greek or Italian club


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Peppa Pig


    LiamoSail wrote: »
    I There's that much money in English football, that it would probably cost more to buy the highly paid EPL players/manager then it would to buy a Greek or Italian club
    But the referees .....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭JimsAlterEgo


    Could it be the officials and not the players? Some very dodgy decisions over the years.

    Or mayb spread betting markets? Corners, time of first shot/throw etc?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,294 ✭✭✭LiamoSail


    Peppa Pig wrote: »
    But the referees .....

    True, that's another option. Probably quiet likely given their income.

    As an aside, should referees be paid an amount more fitting of a footballers wage to make taking a bung less attractive, and to encourage more for we footballers into tip level referring?

    Obviously heyd have to up the subs to finance it..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭jethro081


    first thing that sprang to my mind was everton's champions league qualifier in the 05-06 season. they were royally screwed that time. wouldn't be overly surprised to find out there were dodgy dealings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭PhlegmyMoses


    It will most likely be a betting syndicate and a ref involved in these cases and then maybe some players lower down the leagues. I doubt whole teams would be involved in this. It wouldn't be worth it financially to most professional clubs unless they were receiving huge sums.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,478 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    How far back does the report go?

    Wasn't the CL final between Juve and Milan (0-0) played in England?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Frankie Lee


    Liverpool 8 Besiktas 0 was definitely a dodgy one.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 454 ✭✭Israel_Dagg


    Chelsea v Barca 09.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭Pinturicchio


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21319807

    At a news conference in The Hague, Netherlands, Europol claimed:
    • The fixed Champions League tie in England took place in the "last three or four years";
    • The identity of that match cannot be revealed due to "ongoing judicial proceedings";
    • Other "corrupt" matches included World Cup and European Championship qualifiers and "several top football matches in European leagues";
    • In Germany-based matches alone, criminals wagered £13.8m (16m euros) on rigged matches and made £6.9m in profits. Officials fear this is as the "tip of the iceberg";
    • In total 380 suspicious matches were in Europe and a further 300 in Africa, Asia and south and central America.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭roanoke


    Is there any serious money placed on "dead rubbers" (round 6 games)? I could see even a big team abusing this fixture.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭strawberryb0y


    Besiktas v Liverpool is the most likely I'd guess.
    Can't remember too many suspicious reffing displays.
    Man Utd v Roma was a mad result but unlikely to throw the game


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